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On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. |
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On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 2:03:27 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I'd probably rather be tased by a cop than some random drunk. My first choice, of course, would be not to be tased at all. Cindy Hamilton |
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on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed :
In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. |
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On 06/16/2020 12:32 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It happens but a LE Taser has a range of about 35'. Sop running after him, problem solved. |
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On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. |
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On 06/16/2020 12:56 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 2:03:27 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I'd probably rather be tased by a cop than some random drunk. My first choice, of course, would be not to be tased at all. There's about a 50/50 chance of either of them hitting you unless it's point blank range. Or there is that transit cop a few years ago who apparently couldn't tell her left from her right and tased the suspect with a 9mm. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F
wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. |
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rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 :
On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. |
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After serious thinking micky wrote :
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? |
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 04:45:23 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. Actually the cowboy likely has about ten times the chance - he's actually used the weapon before. |
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:50:15 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Lynching is what the cops did to Brooks. He didn't get a trial and he's DEAD. The cops would just end up either behind a desk, off with pay (suspended) or possibly fired - and jailed if found guilty of murder. |
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? To slow them down - and according to the cops it is not a "weapon" but a "tool" - which THEY tend to use rather indiscriminately |
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On 06/17/2020 05:50 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Some of those innocent traffic stops start going south when the NCIC QW query comes back with five pages of wants and warrants. |
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On 06/17/2020 06:26 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:50:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Lynching is what the cops did to Brooks. He didn't get a trial and he's DEAD. The cops would just end up either behind a desk, off with pay (suspended) or possibly fired - and jailed if found guilty of murder. Brooks lynched himself by assaulting a cop, stealing a taser, and attempting to use it on another cop. Personally, I would have let the fool run and been at his crib at 8AM the next morning to bring him in on the several felonies he committed in his hopped up state. Shooting him was bad optics. |
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On 06/17/2020 02:45 AM, micky wrote:
I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. Intent, micky, intent. |
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On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 2:03:27 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. Bricks can be non-lethal or lethal. I suppose cops should just take that incoming and not eliminate the potentially deadly threat too. IDK that authorities claimed that tasers are always non-lethal, just that they usually are. And some asshole like this perp, untrained and using it to attack could put a cop's eye out. He's dead, he died of stupidity, screw him. |
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On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:26:45 AM UTC-4, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:50:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Lynching is what the cops did to Brooks. He didn't get a trial and he's DEAD. The cops would just end up either behind a desk, off with pay (suspended) or possibly fired - and jailed if found guilty of murder. What BS. This guy resisted arrest, attacked cops and turned and pointed what is potentially a lethal weapon at them. It can also put an eye out. Are you gonna volunteer your eyes for some scumbag to shoot at? Give us a break. He died of stupidity. I think it was the other cop that shot him. His logical defense could be that he didn't know what the perp had stolen from his fellow officer, that he thought it could have been his pistol and when the perp spun around and pointed something at him, he did his job. |
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? Let's ask him. |
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On 06/17/2020 09:46 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/17/2020 10:22 AM, rbowman wrote: On 06/17/2020 06:26 AM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:50:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Lynching is what the cops did to Brooks. He didn't get a trial and he's DEAD. The cops would just end up either behind a desk, off with pay (suspended) or possibly fired - and jailed if found guilty of murder. Brooks lynched himself by assaulting a cop, stealing a taser, and attempting to use it on another cop. Personally, I would have let the fool run and been at his crib at 8AM the next morning to bring him in on the several felonies he committed in his hopped up state. Shooting him was bad optics. That was my initial thought too. Sitting at the keyboard, it is a logical conclusion. However. . . Having a battle, adrenaline flowing, having my weapon stolen, good change I'd have popped him too. He could have tased the cop disabling him, taken his gun and killed him. The arm chair warriors need to read Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's 'On Combat'. https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/on-...man/1101182779 Time distortion, tunnel vision, muted hearing, the works. Humans have evolved to go full medieval in situations like that. The logic of 'tasers only have two shots and that one is used up' ain't happening. I haven't watched any videos and don't know the timeline but there may have been a point where letting the fool bolt was an option. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. This should explain it. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...urder-n1231305 Here's a video, not a great one, just the press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-hNOkY9klY Why would he be so angry at a man who didn't give him much trouble earlier, who he has already shot, that he would kick him? I think the answer is that he challenged the cop's authority. Cops are happy to not get involved much of the time, but once they're called to a problem, or the cop thinks there's a problem, they want to be in charge and they don't want anyone challenging that. Because of procedure, I suppose, but largely because of ego and identity. |
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On 6/18/20 5:02 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. This should explain it. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...urder-n1231305 Here's a video, not a great one, just the press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-hNOkY9klY Why would he be so angry at a man who didn't give him much trouble earlier, who he has already shot, that he would kick him? I think the answer is that he challenged the cop's authority. Cops are happy to not get involved much of the time, but once they're called to a problem, or the cop thinks there's a problem, they want to be in charge and they don't want anyone challenging that. Because of procedure, I suppose, but largely because of ego and identity. Why do democrats always make excuses for criminals? |
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On 06/18/2020 04:08 AM, devnull wrote:
On 6/18/20 5:02 AM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. This should explain it. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...urder-n1231305 Here's a video, not a great one, just the press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-hNOkY9klY Why would he be so angry at a man who didn't give him much trouble earlier, who he has already shot, that he would kick him? I think the answer is that he challenged the cop's authority. Cops are happy to not get involved much of the time, but once they're called to a problem, or the cop thinks there's a problem, they want to be in charge and they don't want anyone challenging that. Because of procedure, I suppose, but largely because of ego and identity. Why do democrats always make excuses for criminals? Birds of a feather? https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/6-...taser-on-them/ "Streeter is charged with aggravated assault for using a Taser against Young and is also charged with pointing a gun at him, arrest warrants say. Gardner is charged with aggravated assault for using a Taser against Pilgrim, a warrant says" This went down on June 2 prior to the current furor. For context Streeter and Gardner are the cops... Apparently Georgia law considers a Taser a deadly weapon unless you are fleeing from the police. Oh, yeah, Streeter and Gardner are both black as is 61% of the Atlanta PD. Messiah Young and Taniyah Pilgrim are also black and were attending a BLM riot, er, protest. |
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On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:50:15 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: rbowman wrote on 6/16/2020 : On 06/16/2020 05:07 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: on 6/16/2020, Ralph Mowery supposed : In article , says... Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. While most of the time the tasers are not leathal, there have been some that have died from them. I met an ex cop that said he was fired mainly because he used a taser on someone and they died. That was around 30 years ago. I think they have been sort of improved now to be safer. It doesn't seem to matter whether they step on thier necks or taser them, if they have a heart attack while subdued they'll charge the cops with murder. I've got think some have stroked out just being cuffed knowing all those wants and warrants just came home to roost. Chemical cocktails and adrenaline overload can be unhealthy. Yes, it is very uncomfortable being cuffed, I suppose even moreso if 'musclebound' and a rush of adrenaline might come from the realization that you might be going back to prison, especially if you were just recently released. People are too quick to blame the cops IMO. Won't even wait until trial to declare "Bad Cop" and demand immediate justice A.K.A a lynching. Lynching is what the cops did to Brooks. Says you, what did the outcome of the trial say? He didn't get a trial and he's DEAD. Yes, that's sad, but how did he get into that bad situation? The cops would just end up either behind a desk, off with pay (suspended) or possibly fired - and jailed if found guilty of murder. If?, yes! Let's see shall we, before convicting them ourselves and protesting, looting, vandalizing, lynching etc... |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. Running away seems to be not endangering the police, but turning and shooting, not so much. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. Still a dangerous less than leathal weapon for him to have. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. Yes, facts do seem to trickle out don't they. Why wasn't that part of the original story I wonder. |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. And stood there gloating " I got 'im" He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. And stood there gloating " I got 'im" He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. Yes, riots were going on. |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:51:44 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: Clare Snyder used his or her keyboard to write : On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. And stood there gloating " I got 'im" He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. Yes, riots were going on. Atlanta has had riots before. Bad cops were not fired and charged within 24 hours. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 18 Jun 2020 11:54:18 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: micky used his or her keyboard to write : In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. Running away seems to be not endangering the police, but turning and shooting, not so much. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. Still a dangerous less than leathal weapon for him to have. I'll give you dollars to donuts he didn't have another unit to reload it with, and that the cops knew it. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. Yes, facts do seem to trickle out don't they. Why wasn't that part of the original story I wonder. Not sure, might have been in a video that wasn't seen or wasn't publicly described at first. There is a still that they say shows him kicking him, but if it's part of a video that would probably be more clear. |
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On 06/18/2020 09:54 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Yes, facts do seem to trickle out don't they. Why wasn't that part of the original story I wonder. Don't let facts stand in your way... I was amused by a story from Oakland. Some bored guy created a exercise course in a public park, some of which involved ropes. The dip**** (white, more or less) mayor wants it investigated as a hate crime. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...crime-n1231405 Newest hate symbol: any rope attached to a tree. |
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He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. https://www.cbs46.com/news/atlanta-o...23b6df8e3.html Keisha Lance Bottoms is very even handed. Were I an Atlanta cop I'd sing a few bars of that old Johnny Paycheck song on my way out the door. |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 21:27:34 -0600, rbowman
wrote: On 06/18/2020 01:04 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. https://www.cbs46.com/news/atlanta-o...23b6df8e3.html Keisha Lance Bottoms is very even handed. Were I an Atlanta cop I'd sing a few bars of that old Johnny Paycheck song on my way out the door. Fired but no criminal charges laid - but kudos to Bottoms for doing her job |
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:51:44 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: Clare Snyder used his or her keyboard to write : On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 03:32:26 -0400, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 17 Jun 2020 07:53:13 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: After serious thinking micky wrote : In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:03:22 -0700, Bob F wrote: On 6/16/2020 6:15 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 8:36:56 AM UTC-4, Bod wrote: Kerik says Rayshard Brooks 'would be alive today if he didn't resist and he didn't disarm the police officers' https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernar...-disarm-police At what point did Rayshard Brooks disarm the officer? I wonder how the officer shot Mr Brooks without his gun. -- Bod -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com What he means is that he would be alive if he hadn't resisted arrest and taken the officers's taser and pointed it at him. He may have fired it too. He also assaulted the cops trying to arrest him for DWI. He's another example of death by stupidity, but sadly they don't learn. It's highly unlikely a jury will convict that cop of anything. Would you stand there and allow him to taser you? Tasers can and have killed. Suppose he puts your eye out? Are you prepared to live with that, because some jerk chooses to go crazy? Cops always claim tasers are non-lethal. You think they can now suddenly claim they are lethal and get a court to accept that. THAT will be an interesting discussion in court. I don't know much about this, and the one video I looked at the man being chased was out of view afaict at the critical part, but he seemed to be running away and turning back at the same time. The odds of him actually hitting the cop with the taser are about as high as in cowboy movies when one man on horseback turns around, while riding foward and bouncing up and down, and shoots the guys following him. Who are also bouncing up and down and moving forward. What was his intent in firing the weapon in their direction? If he were being charged for tasing them, then his intent could definitely matter. But if they are charged with shooting him, his intent doens't matter, only the amount of danger the cops reasonably thought they were in. AIUI, he had shot the taser and it missed, and it's not possible to shoot it again without time-consuming reloading. I also heard on the radio that when he was lying there dying, one cop kicked him and another stood on his shoulders, whatever that means. And stood there gloating " I got 'im" He deserves whatever he gets. Interesting too, that it's the first time in "recent history" where a white lawman was fired and charged for an offence in atlanta within 24 hours -- Says SOMEONE with pull believes there was something rotten going on. Yes, riots were going on. Atlanta has had riots before. Bad cops were not fired and charged within 24 hours. Counterexamples do not disprove the effect that riots have on decisions made by the authorities. |
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