Brick Anchor
I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application?
Thanks! Bob Simon |
Brick Anchor
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon
wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon 10 pounds isn't very heavy. If the artwork isn't subject to catching strong winds or other such mechanical forces - anything will work. My 100 ft. rubber garden hose is hung on 2 smallish screws into cheap plastic brick anchors and it becomes a whole lot heavier when filling watering cans while most of it is still on the hanger. If you are really worried - use a bracket or backplate with 2 or 3 screws. John T. |
Brick Anchor
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon
wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. |
Brick Anchor
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:42:17 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. What he said. The small tap con is probably plenty. The extraction strength won't be that much in brick so don't go nuts tightening it. Just snug it up. If you change your mind later, the holes won't be hard to patch. |
Brick Anchor
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 2:42:21 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. Thank you. I just looked at a video on how to install these and, as you said, it seems like they will work great for my little project. And, YES, we sometimes get quite a bit of wind here in New Orleans! |
Brick Anchor
On 4/29/2020 12:59 PM, Bob Simon wrote:
I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Its easier to drill into the mortar than the brick. Tapcon will work for you. Be sure it is anchored so wind does not blow it away. |
Brick Anchor
On 4/29/2020 3:42 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. Yep, that was what I would have suggested. BTW, if you use Tapcons, use soap, wax or some form of lube when screwing in the Tapcon screw and edge it slowly. Much also depends if you hit the mortar or the brick but either way, it enters much easier. |
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Brick Anchor
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:10:38 -0400, Hawk wrote:
On 4/29/2020 3:42 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. Yep, that was what I would have suggested. BTW, if you use Tapcons, use soap, wax or some form of lube when screwing in the Tapcon screw and edge it slowly. Much also depends if you hit the mortar or the brick but either way, it enters much easier. And for crying out loud, USE THE IMPACT DRIVER, |
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:59:45 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:10:38 -0400, Hawk wrote: On 4/29/2020 3:42 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon I'd just throw in a couple of tapcons, myself. - Likely 4 - one on each corner if there iaa chance of wind catching it. A single tapcon would be more than strong enough - a 3/16X1 holds a minimum of 600 lbs pull and 720 lb shear. Yep, that was what I would have suggested. BTW, if you use Tapcons, use soap, wax or some form of lube when screwing in the Tapcon screw and edge it slowly. Much also depends if you hit the mortar or the brick but either way, it enters much easier. And for crying out loud, USE THE IMPACT DRIVER, Here's a nice new Festool one ... $ 500. .... oh wait - it's only for wood, metal, plastic. :-( John T. |
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On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 4:16:10 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/29/2020 12:59 PM, Bob Simon wrote: I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Its easier to drill into the mortar than the brick. Tapcon will work for you. Be sure it is anchored so wind does not blow it away. Easy to repair and blend in later in mortar too if you decide to remove whatever was put in place too. |
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In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54
@googlegroups.com, says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:48:31 -0400, Tekkie® wrote:
In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54 , says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. I haven't had good experience attaching anchors to the mortar between bricks so in recent years I've been drilling into the brick instead. So far, so good, but I've read that bricks tend to get more brittle as they get older, so you'd have to take that into account. A hammer drill with a masonry bit is a must. Anecdote: My current house and my next door neighbor's house are both just a hair over a year old now. We both hung garden hose reels at about the same time. He drilled into mortar while I drilled into brick. His reel fell off the house 3 times, while mine has stayed put. The first two times he simply used bigger Tapcons but the third time he accepted defeat and put the hose reel in the garage. |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:49:26 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:48:31 -0400, Tekkie® wrote: In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54 , says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. I haven't had good experience attaching anchors to the mortar between bricks so in recent years I've been drilling into the brick instead. So far, so good, but I've read that bricks tend to get more brittle as they get older, so you'd have to take that into account. A hammer drill with a masonry bit is a must. Anecdote: My current house and my next door neighbor's house are both just a hair over a year old now. We both hung garden hose reels at about the same time. He drilled into mortar while I drilled into brick. His reel fell off the house 3 times, while mine has stayed put. The first two times he simply used bigger Tapcons but the third time he accepted defeat and put the hose reel in the garage. I've hung a couple 100' hose reels on my houses, among other things. Always drilled into mortar, even if it meant making a frame of 1x1's when the fixture holes didn't match the mortar lines. Always used plastic inserts and SS screws. Nothing ever came loose. Just don't want to take the chance of cracking a brick. Don't want to patch brick either. |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:58:03 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:49:26 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:48:31 -0400, Tekkie® wrote: In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54 , says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. I haven't had good experience attaching anchors to the mortar between bricks so in recent years I've been drilling into the brick instead. So far, so good, but I've read that bricks tend to get more brittle as they get older, so you'd have to take that into account. A hammer drill with a masonry bit is a must. Anecdote: My current house and my next door neighbor's house are both just a hair over a year old now. We both hung garden hose reels at about the same time. He drilled into mortar while I drilled into brick. His reel fell off the house 3 times, while mine has stayed put. The first two times he simply used bigger Tapcons but the third time he accepted defeat and put the hose reel in the garage. I've hung a couple 100' hose reels on my houses, among other things. Always drilled into mortar, even if it meant making a frame of 1x1's when the fixture holes didn't match the mortar lines. Always used plastic inserts and SS screws. Nothing ever came loose. Just don't want to take the chance of cracking a brick. Don't want to patch brick either. Expansion anchors in the mortar is OK but TapCons won't really bite. Mortar is too soft, particularly Type N. |
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I'm the original poster.
Thanks to all for the good advice. I went to Lowe's this afternoon and bought some Tapcons. I wanted 3/16 x 3 1/4" but they didn't have that size so I went up to 1/4" plus the appropriate bit. It's on the wall now and is very sturdy. Wy wife is delighted which I expect you can all appreciate is a good thing. In case you want to see the artsy New Orleans-themed sign that our son made for her, I uploaded a pic to Google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMK...ew?usp=sharing Can a file be attached to a post in this newsgroup? Bob Simon |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:58:03 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:49:26 -0500, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:48:31 -0400, Tekkie® wrote: In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54 , says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. I haven't had good experience attaching anchors to the mortar between bricks so in recent years I've been drilling into the brick instead. So far, so good, but I've read that bricks tend to get more brittle as they get older, so you'd have to take that into account. A hammer drill with a masonry bit is a must. Anecdote: My current house and my next door neighbor's house are both just a hair over a year old now. We both hung garden hose reels at about the same time. He drilled into mortar while I drilled into brick. His reel fell off the house 3 times, while mine has stayed put. The first two times he simply used bigger Tapcons but the third time he accepted defeat and put the hose reel in the garage. I've hung a couple 100' hose reels on my houses, among other things. Always drilled into mortar, even if it meant making a frame of 1x1's when the fixture holes didn't match the mortar lines. Always used plastic inserts and SS screws. Nothing ever came loose. Just don't want to take the chance of cracking a brick. Don't want to patch brick either. Depends what kind of brick. Up here we use a lot of autoclaved concrete brick - much stronger than mortar - or clay brick. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:49:26 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:48:31 -0400, Tekkie® wrote: In article 7b449dda-cdf9-4a82-8360-22c0e8414d54 , says... I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (around 10 pounds) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Like everyone else has noted use Tapcons, use the correct size drill into the motor. I have never had to use any kind of lube. I haven't had good experience attaching anchors to the mortar between bricks so in recent years I've been drilling into the brick instead. So far, so good, but I've read that bricks tend to get more brittle as they get older, so you'd have to take that into account. A hammer drill with a masonry bit is a must. Anecdote: My current house and my next door neighbor's house are both just a hair over a year old now. We both hung garden hose reels at about the same time. He drilled into mortar while I drilled into brick. His reel fell off the house 3 times, Well, I drilled into the mortar 37 years ago and it's still firmly attached to wall. The hose reel may leak, but I still use it to crank up the garden house, 1.5 of them, and even though those winds parallel to the wall, there's bound to be some force away from the wall when I wind. FWIW, I didn't use tapcons, pretty sure it was lead or plastic anchors. And screws with fewer threads than machine screws. while mine has stayed put. The first two times he simply used bigger Tapcons but the third time he accepted defeat and put the hose reel in the garage. Sounds wise. |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Can a file be attached to a post in this newsgroup? Technically, you can, but not everyone will see it. This isn't a binary group, so some NSPs will drop posts in this group that contain binary attachments. It might be a better idea to post your attachment somewhere on the web and include a link here for folks to click on. |
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On 4/29/2020 9:59 AM, Bob Simon wrote:
I need to permanently mount a piece of art work (from Pic-and-Save) on an outside brick wall. I see there are a variety of different types of anchors like double expansion shield, sleeve anchor, wedge anchor. What type would you recommended for this application? Thanks! Bob Simon Two pieces of Scotch tape should do the trick. LOL |
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On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 8:07:58 PM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT), " Can a file be attached to a post in this newsgroup? Technically, you can, but not everyone will see it. This isn't a binary group, so some NSPs will drop posts in this group that contain binary attachments. It might be a better idea to post your attachment somewhere on the web and include a link here for folks to click on. Thanks! |
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT),
" wrote: I'm the original poster. Thanks to all for the good advice. I went to Lowe's this afternoon and bought some Tapcons. I wanted 3/16 x 3 1/4" but they didn't have that size so I went up to 1/4" plus the appropriate bit. It's on the wall now and is very sturdy. Wy wife is delighted which I expect you can all appreciate is a good thing. In case you want to see the artsy New Orleans-themed sign that our son made for her, I uploaded a pic to Google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMK...ew?usp=sharing Can a file be attached to a post in this newsgroup? It can be attached when posting, but it won't show up in the newsgroup. You did it right. Bob Simon |
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On Fri, 01 May 2020 16:09:23 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I'm the original poster. Thanks to all for the good advice. I went to Lowe's this afternoon and bought some Tapcons. I wanted 3/16 x 3 1/4" but they didn't have that size so I went up to 1/4" plus the appropriate bit. It's on the wall now and is very sturdy. Wy wife is delighted which I expect you can all appreciate is a good thing. In case you want to see the artsy New Orleans-themed sign that our son made for her, I uploaded a pic to Google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fMK...ew?usp=sharing Can a file be attached to a post in this newsgroup? It can be attached when posting, but it won't show up in the newsgroup. Depends on the particular NSP. My NSP allows binary attachments in non-binary groups, so I'd see it. You're using E-S and I'm guessing they don't. Still, it's good etiquette to only post binaries to groups that are chartered for them. You did it right. |
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