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FromTheRafters April 28th 20 04:25 PM

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Muggles has brought this to us :
On 4/28/2020 3:11 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained on 4/27/2020 :
On 4/27/2020 5:24 PM, trader_4 wrote:
95% of people who get the virus have nothing serious happen to them.
What makes you think deaths will climb?
Because the virus hasn't changed, what's reduced the infection rate,
prevented the hospitals from going into chaos and reduced the death rate
is what WE did.* If you undo it without having changed things, without
having brought it down to a low level, without widespread testing,
without
contact testing and quarantining, we'll just resume, stupid.





What about the thousands of people who've had the virus w/o any severe
issues?* I'm thinking that's called HERD IMMUNITY.


No, it is not yet known if there is any lasting immunity from having
survived an infection nor is there a vaccine.



So?? Life will move on and so will people with or w/o a vaccine.


Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.

Muggles[_27_] April 28th 20 05:01 PM

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On 4/28/2020 10:25 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles has brought this to us :
On 4/28/2020 3:11 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained on 4/27/2020 :
On 4/27/2020 5:24 PM, trader_4 wrote:
95% of people who get the virus have nothing serious happen to them.
What makes you think deaths will climb?
Because the virus hasn't changed, what's reduced the infection rate,
prevented the hospitals from going into chaos and reduced the death
rate
is what WE did.* If you undo it without having changed things, without
having brought it down to a low level, without widespread testing,
without
contact testing and quarantining, we'll just resume, stupid.





What about the thousands of people who've had the virus w/o any severe
issues?* I'm thinking that's called HERD IMMUNITY.

No, it is not yet known if there is any lasting immunity from having
survived an infection nor is there a vaccine.



So??* Life will move on and so will people with or w/o a vaccine.



Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.



People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.

--
Maggie

Rod Speed April 28th 20 07:35 PM

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"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/28/2020 10:25 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles has brought this to us :
On 4/28/2020 3:11 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained on 4/27/2020 :
On 4/27/2020 5:24 PM, trader_4 wrote:
95% of people who get the virus have nothing serious happen to them.
What makes you think deaths will climb?
Because the virus hasn't changed, what's reduced the infection rate,
prevented the hospitals from going into chaos and reduced the death
rate
is what WE did. If you undo it without having changed things,
without
having brought it down to a low level, without widespread testing,
without
contact testing and quarantining, we'll just resume, stupid.





What about the thousands of people who've had the virus w/o any severe
issues? I'm thinking that's called HERD IMMUNITY.

No, it is not yet known if there is any lasting immunity from having
survived an infection nor is there a vaccine.


So?? Life will move on and so will people with or w/o a vaccine.



Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.



People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


Peeler[_4_] April 28th 20 07:48 PM

UNBELIEVABLE: It's 04:35 am in Australia and the Senile Ozzietard has been out of Bed and TROLLING for OVER TWO HOURS already!!!! LOL
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 04:35:47 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

04:35??? IOW, you will be trolling ALL NIGHT and ALL DAY LONG, yet AGAIN.
Well, just like EVERY NIGHT AND DAY! LMAO

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

Muggles[_27_] April 28th 20 10:41 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.



People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.

--
Maggie

Rod Speed April 29th 20 02:28 AM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.


People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


Bod[_3_] April 29th 20 05:07 AM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
On 28/04/2020 22:41, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.


People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.

So all of the doctors around the world have got it wrong?

--
Bod

Peeler[_4_] April 29th 20 09:18 AM

Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:28:21 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread


--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

trader_4 April 29th 20 01:53 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 5:40:53 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.


People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.

--
Maggie


We didn't have ICUs overflowing and 60K people dead in two months from
that flu, stupid.



FromTheRafters April 29th 20 10:01 PM

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Muggles formulated on Tuesday :
On 4/28/2020 10:25 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles has brought this to us :
On 4/28/2020 3:11 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained on 4/27/2020 :
On 4/27/2020 5:24 PM, trader_4 wrote:
95% of people who get the virus have nothing serious happen to them.
What makes you think deaths will climb?
Because the virus hasn't changed, what's reduced the infection rate,
prevented the hospitals from going into chaos and reduced the death
rate
is what WE did.* If you undo it without having changed things, without
having brought it down to a low level, without widespread testing,
without
contact testing and quarantining, we'll just resume, stupid.





What about the thousands of people who've had the virus w/o any severe
issues?* I'm thinking that's called HERD IMMUNITY.

No, it is not yet known if there is any lasting immunity from having
survived an infection nor is there a vaccine.


So??* Life will move on and so will people with or w/o a vaccine.



Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.



People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Or they might get immunity for two months and be able to get infected
by the same exact strain all over again after that -- we don't know yet
because this is new and it is not the flu.

FromTheRafters April 29th 20 10:03 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
Muggles was thinking very hard :
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.


People have had it might or might not get a different version of it down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.


Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


Most symptoms come from your own immune system's actions in trying to
expell the intruder.

Muggles[_27_] April 30th 20 03:59 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%

--
Maggie

Muggles[_27_] April 30th 20 04:00 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 4/28/2020 11:07 PM, Bod wrote:
On 28/04/2020 22:41, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 1:35 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Whatever, deflect all you want, that still does not address your "HERD
IMMUNITY" idea.


People have had it might or might not get a different version of it
down
the line JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FLU.

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.


It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.

So all of the doctors around the world have got it wrong?



ALL what drs?? There is a big difference of opinions between ALL drs.

--
Maggie

trader_4 April 30th 20 06:21 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%

--
Maggie


Even if that turns out to be true, say it's 0.8%, that is still eight times
the death rate from the flu. Which is evidenced by the fact that in just
two months of Covid, we've already exceeded the 60K dead from a very bad
flu season, that was WITH extreme measures to reduce the spread and the deaths
are still piling up, 2K a day.






Bob F April 30th 20 09:30 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 4/30/2020 10:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%

--
Maggie


Even if that turns out to be true, say it's 0.8%, that is still eight times
the death rate from the flu. Which is evidenced by the fact that in just
two months of Covid, we've already exceeded the 60K dead from a very bad
flu season, that was WITH extreme measures to reduce the spread and the deaths
are still piling up, 2K a day.


The death rate may go higher rather than lower. There are huge numbers
of un-reported covid deaths. Maybe 46,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...york-city.html

Bob F April 30th 20 09:32 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 4/30/2020 1:30 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 4/30/2020 10:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

--
Maggie


Even if that turns out to be true, say it's 0.8%, that is still eight
times
the death rate from the flu.Â* Which is evidenced by the fact that in just
two months of Covid, we've already exceeded the 60K dead from a very bad
flu season, that was WITH extreme measures to reduce the spread and
the deaths
are still piling up, 2K a day.


The death rate may go higher rather than lower. There are huge numbers
of un-reported covid deaths. Maybe 46,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...york-city.html


"These numbers undermine the notion that many people who have died from
the virus may soon have died anyway. In Paris, more than twice the usual
number of people have died each day, far more than the peak of a bad flu
season. In New York City, the number has spiked to six times the normal
amount.

Clare Snyder April 30th 20 09:37 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:32:06 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 4/30/2020 1:30 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 4/30/2020 10:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

--
Maggie

Even if that turns out to be true, say it's 0.8%, that is still eight
times
the death rate from the flu.* Which is evidenced by the fact that in just
two months of Covid, we've already exceeded the 60K dead from a very bad
flu season, that was WITH extreme measures to reduce the spread and
the deaths
are still piling up, 2K a day.


The death rate may go higher rather than lower. There are huge numbers
of un-reported covid deaths. Maybe 46,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ng-deaths.html


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...york-city.html


"These numbers undermine the notion that many people who have died from
the virus may soon have died anyway. In Paris, more than twice the usual
number of people have died each day, far more than the peak of a bad flu
season. In New York City, the number has spiked to six times the normal
amount.

And that's with less traffic - so undoubtedly fewer traffic deaths,
and likely fewer workplace deaths as well

Rod Speed April 30th 20 10:14 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 


"Muggles" wrote in message
...
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%


And the death rate with the flu you had as a child is much lower
than it is with this virus.


Peeler[_4_] April 30th 20 10:29 PM

Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
 
On Fri, 1 May 2020 07:14:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

FromTheRafters May 1st 20 10:10 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%


What is the total number of infections?

Muggles[_27_] May 3rd 20 05:06 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.



But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.



The death rate is 1%


What is the total number of infections?



Who cares? Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.

--
Maggie

Bod[_3_] May 3rd 20 05:17 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain
 
On 03/05/2020 17:06, Muggles wrote:
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%


What is the total number of infections?



Who cares? Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.

Yeah, about 180 countries are all off their rockers....jeez!

--
Bod

[email protected] May 3rd 20 08:40 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
On Sun, 3 May 2020 17:17:46 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/05/2020 17:06, Muggles wrote:
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

What is the total number of infections?



Who cares? Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.

Yeah, about 180 countries are all off their rockers....jeez!


Europe should be. Your death rate per 100k is 2-3 times what the US
has. Germany is the only real exception.

FromTheRafters May 3rd 20 09:31 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
Muggles explained :
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%


What is the total number of infections?



Who cares? Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.


How do you know the death rate percentage if you don't know the
infection rate? Your "is 1%" is a percent of what?

Muggles[_27_] May 3rd 20 09:48 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
On 5/3/2020 3:31 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained :
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

What is the total number of infections?



Who cares?* Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.


How do you know the death rate percentage if you don't know the
infection rate? Your "is 1%" is a percent of what?



1% of the entire referenced population

--
Maggie

Rod Speed May 3rd 20 09:48 PM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 


wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 May 2020 17:17:46 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 03/05/2020 17:06, Muggles wrote:
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

What is the total number of infections?


Who cares? Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.

Yeah, about 180 countries are all off their rockers....jeez!


Europe should be. Your death rate per 100k is 2-3 times what the US has.


Germany is the only real exception.


That's a lie with austria, norway, porfugal etc etc etc


Peeler[_4_] May 3rd 20 10:35 PM

Lonely Auto-contradicting Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
 
On Mon, 4 May 2020 06:48:48 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Bill Wright addressing senile Ozzie cretin Rot Speed:
"Well you make up a lot of stuff and it's total ******** most of it."
MID:

FromTheRafters May 4th 20 03:21 AM

OT: Salon Owner Rips Up Citation and Defies Order to Remain Closed: "I'm not paying this"
 
Muggles laid this down on his screen :
On 5/3/2020 3:31 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles explained :
On 5/1/2020 4:10 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles wrote :
On 4/28/2020 8:28 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Nothing like with the flu, because this virus
doesn't mutate at anything like the same rate.

It seems the symptoms are just like flu's I had as a child.


But the death rate is nothing like the flu you had as a
child and even the symptoms in children are nothing like
what was seen with the flu you had as a child in children.


The death rate is 1%

What is the total number of infections?


Who cares?* Everyone is off their rockers about the death rate.


How do you know the death rate percentage if you don't know the
infection rate? Your "is 1%" is a percent of what?



1% of the entire referenced population


and...what is that number?


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