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What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:06:49 -0700, trader_4 wrote:
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. etc Drunk Driver Deflectors? :-) |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
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I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the life of the wooden pole |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:13:22 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the life of the wooden pole It is just ****ing on the fire until they get around to replacing the pole. We lost a few of them in Irma but the one right around the way from me survived. I suspect it was the direction of the guy wire and the direction of the wind in the eye wall tho. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 brought next idea : On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule.
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What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
trader_4 explained on 4/28/2020 :
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 brought next idea : On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. Maybe the cap is to keep critters out. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-4, TimR wrote:
So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule. I think the real effect is that if it's infinitely strong, it replaces the deteriorating lower section of the pole, including the part that's starting to rot in the ground. I would expect there would be data showing it works. It would be stupid for utility companies to be doing it on a wing and a prayer. It still must cost a considerable sum, but much less than the cost of a new pole. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
trader_4 writes:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. The cap is probably for safety, like the plastic orange caps for re-rod and fence posts. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On 4/28/2020 10:43 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
trader_4 writes: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. The cap is probably for safety, like the plastic orange caps for re-rod and fence posts. Absolutely! If you climb the pole and then slide down, without the cap you nuts could get caught on the top opening. Oh, that would hurt. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
"FromTheRafters" wrote in message ... trader_4 explained on 4/28/2020 : On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 brought next idea : On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. Maybe the cap is to keep critters out. But no cap at the bottom doesn't. |
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What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:35:04 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:15:11 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:13:22 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the life of the wooden pole It is just ****ing on the fire until they get around to replacing the pole. We lost a few of them in Irma but the one right around the way from me survived. I suspect it was the direction of the guy wire and the direction of the wind in the eye wall tho. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg Your photo sure makes it look like a band-aid fix. But I suspect that the labour & machinery to do it isn't real expensive - like pole replacement. John T. They do it without touching the power lines so the folks doing it are pretty much just laborers, not union linesmen. There is also no interruption to power and that makes the customer happy. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 brought next idea : On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote: trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write : I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide, extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or have ideas? https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new here, never saw them before. I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed. That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+ into the ground, so it would not seem to matter. Like this http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg Poles typically go bad right at the surface so it is a fairly good band aid, at least for a while. The poles I see them patching are creosote so that makes them at least 40 years old and the pole in that picture was far from a virgin 36 years ago when I moved here. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-4, TimR wrote: So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule. I think the real effect is that if it's infinitely strong, it replaces the deteriorating lower section of the pole, including the part that's starting to rot in the ground. I would expect there would be data showing it works. It would be stupid for utility companies to be doing it on a wing and a prayer. It still must cost a considerable sum, but much less than the cost of a new pole. I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:44:18 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. The pdf file listed in this thread had a section on woodpecker repair, with a drawing or two. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:44:18 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old poles. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
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What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On 2020-04-29 11:23 a.m., dpb wrote:
On 4/29/2020 12:10 PM, wrote: ... That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old poles. Not necessarily...EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) for whom was consulting at the time did study on dynamic resonances that were close that attracted them thinking there were bugs in the poles when there weren't. We did the data collection and reduction; I retired before the project was complete so don't know the end result. The large pileated versions were completely topping poles...new and old. -- they just like head banging music |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 : On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? I do not understand your use of wiretapping? Andy |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote: Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 : On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? I do not understand your use of wiretapping? Andy Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote: On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote: Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 : On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? I do not understand your use of wiretapping? Andy Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words. Got it. :-) Andy |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 2:23:39 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 4/29/2020 12:10 PM, wrote: ... That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old poles. Not necessarily...EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) for whom was consulting at the time did study on dynamic resonances that were close that attracted them thinking there were bugs in the poles when there weren't. We did the data collection and reduction; I retired before the project was complete so don't know the end result. The large pileated versions were completely topping poles...new and old. -- That would never have occurred to me. Thanks for sharing, that's really interesting. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
I'd never seen these channels until you mentioned it.
There are two poles like that on the block where I live. They're obviously new, judging from the soil pile where the bottom edge goes in. The poles themselves are heavily scarred with spike marks. These poles have been climbed many times by linemen. I can't remember when I last saw someone climb a pole, everybody uses a bucket truck now. I don't know if they even train people to do it anymore. I imagine the oldtimers could tell some stories about it. At any rate, that probably says something about the age of the poles. I wonder if the spike marks increase the decay rate of the poles. |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On 30/04/2020 22:27, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote: On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote: Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 : On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? I do not understand your use of wiretapping? Andy Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words. Got it. :-) Andy It was a VERY clever play on words (well, one word!) ;-) Here's the original post:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158842525600 Has anybody suggested that the OP should take a photograph of the pole, with embelishments, post it to somewhere like this https://imgbb.com and then post a link to the photograph so that everyone may view it? |
What are these steel channels I see attached to electric poles?
On Sat, 2 May 2020 14:22:01 +0100, David_B
wrote: On 30/04/2020 22:27, Andy wrote: On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote: On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote: Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 : On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote: On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote: I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole. Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour. These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A few feet down the poles are solid. Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad. I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away. Andy Wiretapping? I do not understand your use of wiretapping? Andy Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words. Got it. :-) Andy It was a VERY clever play on words (well, one word!) ;-) Here's the original post:- http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158842525600 Has anybody suggested that the OP should take a photograph of the pole, with embelishments, post it to somewhere like this https://imgbb.com and then post a link to the photograph so that everyone may view it? I already posted this but it is the repair they did to the pole on the corner down the street from me http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg |
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