I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the
pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:06:49 -0700, trader_4 wrote:

I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to about
5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine two pieces
of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along the
pole, it's like that. etc

Drunk Driver Deflectors? :-)

trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce
it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the
life of the wooden pole

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:13:22 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce
it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the
life of the wooden pole

It is just ****ing on the fire until they get around to replacing the
pole. We lost a few of them in Irma but the one right around the way
from me survived. I suspect it was the direction of the guy wire and
the direction of the wind in the eye wall tho.

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg

On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:15:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:13:22 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce
it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the
life of the wooden pole

It is just ****ing on the fire until they get around to replacing the
pole. We lost a few of them in Irma but the one right around the way
from me survived. I suspect it was the direction of the guy wire and
the direction of the wind in the eye wall tho.

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg


Your photo sure makes it look like a band-aid fix.
But I suspect that the labour & machinery to do it isn't
real expensive - like pole replacement.
John T.

trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically
along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal
bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it,
nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the
poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about
3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything
running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically
along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal
bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it,
nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the
poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about
3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything
running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.

So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule.

trader_4 explained on 4/28/2020 :
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically
along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy
metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover
over it, nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging
around the poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw
plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire
or anything running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this
is all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.

Maybe the cap is to keep critters out.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-4, TimR wrote:
So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule.

I think the real effect is that if it's infinitely strong, it replaces the
deteriorating lower section of the pole, including the part that's starting
to rot in the ground. I would expect there would be data showing it works.
It would be stupid for utility companies to be doing it on a wing and a prayer.
It still must cost a considerable sum, but much less than the cost of a new pole.

trader_4 writes:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:


https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.


The cap is probably for safety, like the plastic orange caps for
re-rod and fence posts.

On 4/28/2020 10:43 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
trader_4 writes:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:


https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.


The cap is probably for safety, like the plastic orange caps for
re-rod and fence posts.

Absolutely! If you climb the pole and then slide down, without the cap
you nuts could get caught on the top opening. Oh, that would hurt.

"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
...
trader_4 explained on 4/28/2020 :
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side,
vertically along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place
by two heavy metal bands that go around the pole. The top has a
sheet metal cover over it, nailed in place. They had crews here
last summer digging around the poles. I also noticed that the poles
have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4", maybe two feet above ground
level. There is no wire or anything running into or out of it. I
can't figure out what this is all about, but I'm wondering did they
do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could
be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the
channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem
likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength
and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something
new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.

Maybe the cap is to keep critters out.

But no cap at the bottom doesn't.

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On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 08:35:04 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:15:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:13:22 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:21:50 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically along
the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal bands
that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it, nailed
in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the poles.
I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about 3/4",
maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything running
into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

It's basically a piece of Armco strapped to the pole to re-enforce
it - prevents snapping or twisting in high wind loads and extends the
life of the wooden pole

It is just ****ing on the fire until they get around to replacing the
pole. We lost a few of them in Irma but the one right around the way
from me survived. I suspect it was the direction of the guy wire and
the direction of the wind in the eye wall tho.

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg


Your photo sure makes it look like a band-aid fix.
But I suspect that the labour & machinery to do it isn't
real expensive - like pole replacement.
John T.


They do it without touching the power lines so the folks doing it are
pretty much just laborers, not union linesmen.
There is also no interruption to power and that makes the customer
happy.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:42:40 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:37:11 AM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 brought next idea :
On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-4, FromTheRafters wrote:
trader_4 used his or her keyboard to write :
I've noticed that many wooden electric poles here have recently been
updated with a steel channel, double u shaped, about ten inches wide,
extending from some level in the ground up the side of the pole to
about 5 ft high. It's stamped out of one piece, but if you imagine
two pieces of steel channel about 5" wide laid side by side, vertically
along the pole, it's like that. They are held in place by two heavy metal
bands that go around the pole. The top has a sheet metal cover over it,
nailed in place. They had crews here last summer digging around the
poles. I also noticed that the poles have new steel screw plugs, about
3/4", maybe two feet above ground level. There is no wire or anything
running into or out of it. I can't figure out what this is
all about, but I'm wondering did they do test boring to find out which
poles have termites or something? And the mysterious channels could be
a delivery vehicle for insecticide, where they put stuff in the channel
at the top and it dispenses? Whatever it is, maybe one pole out of
six or so has it added. I thought it might be to add some kind of
crash protection, but then some are on the side facing the direction
of traffic, others are on the opposite side and it doesn't seem likely
that it would really do anything for that. Anyone see similar or
have ideas?

https://www.borderstates.com/UserFil.../OSMO00001.pdf

Yes, that's it, thank you. So it's a truss designed to add strength and
extend the life of poles that are deteriorating. This is something new
here, never saw them before.

I couldn't visualize the double U description, but the rest of what you
described sounded like a splint for mending bones straight or
immobilizing a joint. We call them 'telephone poles' around here, but I
think officially they are 'utility poles' so I looked up 'utility pole
splint' and got lucky with that photograph there. It looks something
like the metal used for guardrails being repurposed.

That's definitely what it is. Only difference these are spray painted
brown and have a little cap/hood nailed over the top. Not sure what the
idea to that is, keep rain out? But it's open at the bottom and 5 ft+
into the ground, so it would not seem to matter.

Like this
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg

Poles typically go bad right at the surface so it is a fairly good
band aid, at least for a while. The poles I see them patching are
creosote so that makes them at least 40 years old and the pole in that
picture was far from a virgin 36 years ago when I moved here.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 06:02:07 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:46:59 AM UTC-4, TimR wrote:
So if it is infinitely strong, it has the same effect as shortening the pole by 5 feet. I'm skeptical they do much. I haven't seen any in my area, but they're pretty quick to replace poles on schedule.

I think the real effect is that if it's infinitely strong, it replaces the
deteriorating lower section of the pole, including the part that's starting
to rot in the ground. I would expect there would be data showing it works.
It would be stupid for utility companies to be doing it on a wing and a prayer.
It still must cost a considerable sum, but much less than the cost of a new pole.

I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:44:18 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad.

The pdf file listed in this thread had a section on woodpecker repair,
with a drawing or two.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:44:18 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote:

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad.

That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs
were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old
poles.

On 4/29/2020 12:10 PM, wrote:
....

That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs
were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old
poles.

Not necessarily...EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) for whom was
consulting at the time did study on dynamic resonances that were close
that attracted them thinking there were bugs in the poles when there
weren't.

We did the data collection and reduction; I retired before the project
was complete so don't know the end result.

The large pileated versions were completely topping poles...new and old.

--

On 2020-04-29 11:23 a.m., dpb wrote:
On 4/29/2020 12:10 PM, wrote:
...

That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs
were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old
poles.

Not necessarily...EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) for whom was
consulting at the time did study on dynamic resonances that were close
that attracted them thinking there were bugs in the poles when there
weren't.

We did the data collection and reduction; I retired before the project
was complete so don't know the end result.

The large pileated versions were completely topping poles...new and old.

--



they just like head banging music

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep woodpeckers away.

Andy

Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

I do not understand your use of wiretapping?

Andy

On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

I do not understand your use of wiretapping?

Andy

Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words.

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

I do not understand your use of wiretapping?

Andy

Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words.

Got it.

:-)

Andy

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 2:23:39 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 4/29/2020 12:10 PM, wrote:
...

That just meant that the creosote had oxidized to the point that bugs
were living in the pole. Woodpecker damage is pretty common in old
poles.

Not necessarily...EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) for whom was
consulting at the time did study on dynamic resonances that were close
that attracted them thinking there were bugs in the poles when there
weren't.

We did the data collection and reduction; I retired before the project
was complete so don't know the end result.

The large pileated versions were completely topping poles...new and old.

--

That would never have occurred to me. Thanks for sharing, that's really interesting.

I'd never seen these channels until you mentioned it.

There are two poles like that on the block where I live. They're obviously new, judging from the soil pile where the bottom edge goes in.

The poles themselves are heavily scarred with spike marks. These poles have been climbed many times by linemen. I can't remember when I last saw someone climb a pole, everybody uses a bucket truck now. I don't know if they even train people to do it anymore. I imagine the oldtimers could tell some stories about it. At any rate, that probably says something about the age of the poles. I wonder if the spike marks increase the decay rate of the poles.

On 30/04/2020 22:27, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

I do not understand your use of wiretapping?

Andy

Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words.

Got it.

:-)

Andy

It was a VERY clever play on words (well, one word!) ;-)

Here's the original post:-

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158842525600

Has anybody suggested that the OP should take a photograph of the pole,
with embelishments, post it to somewhere like this https://imgbb.com and
then post a link to the photograph so that everyone may view it?

On Sat, 2 May 2020 14:22:01 +0100, David_B
wrote:

On 30/04/2020 22:27, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/30/2020 11:56 AM, Andy wrote:
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 6:10:28 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
Andy wrote on 4/29/2020 :
On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:44:23 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 4:36:29 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I was here watching them do the one near my house. They just drive the
guardrail metal down with a power hammer and strap it to the pole.
Then nail on the cap. The whole process took less than a half hour.
These guys probably do 10 or more a day. It took them almost as long
to do the surveys to see which poles needed it. They had to dig and do
some physical testing of the wood for that. The guy said they only
look at the first foot or two because that is where the problem is. A
few feet down the poles are solid.

Walking the dog yesterday, we heard a woodpecker hammering away and it had
to be on a telephone pole, but I had trouble spotting it. Finally with some
help we saw it. It was at the very top of a pole, and it had excavated far
enough in that only its tail feathers showed. The power company had already
set a new pole next to it, just hadn't transferred the wires yet, so they
knew how bad the pole was. But if they rot from the bottom up, that one had
to be pretty bad.

I have seen poles with chicken wire wrapped around it. Might be to keep
woodpeckers away.

Andy

Wiretapping?

I do not understand your use of wiretapping?

Andy

Woodpeckers, wire, tapping. It was a play on words.

Got it.

:-)

Andy

It was a VERY clever play on words (well, one word!) ;-)

Here's the original post:-

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=158842525600

Has anybody suggested that the OP should take a photograph of the pole,
with embelishments, post it to somewhere like this https://imgbb.com and
then post a link to the photograph so that everyone may view it?

I already posted this but it is the repair they did to the pole on the
corner down the street from me

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/pole%20repair.jpg