On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:39:55 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 3/19/2020 5:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:09:03 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 3/19/2020 10:10 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 07:30:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 4:24:44 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
I know different channels and different times of day have different
commercials, but have you noticed all the recent TV commercials for
Clorox. Not for use in washing machines, but to kill germs, like for
someone's old, frail mother (in the video), or after fishing your
child's toy out of the toilet (3 versions of that, father, mother,
black, white).

These don't seem to have anything to do with the coronovirus, but OTOH,
they come at such a good time for the Clorox company. Just coincidence?


BTW, there is no H in Clorox, so don't expect to see any chlorine
either, though sometimes it's there.

I expect to find sodium hypochlorite in Clorox.

There was a surprising amount of bleach available at the grocery store,
but it was all that stupid scented stuff. I'll wait until plain bleach
is available again.

Cindy Hamilton

I probably shouldn't say this but go to a pool store. They sell 10%
(twice what is in bleach). You need to pay deposit on the jug if you
don't have one.


Prices on that are far higher in my experience.

Dunno but I get 2.5 gallons for 4 bucks and change. That is 5 gallons
of Clorox. Maybe you can buy store brand bleach for a buck a gallon.


I just called my local pool store. 3 gallons of 12.5% is $40. I can get
6% bleach for $2/gal. There are not many pool stores left in Seattle, so
maybe no competition.

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.
They still do OK. The guy who has the franchise for the store I go to
has a $2.4 million dollar house behind me. Wanna buy it. He has it on
the market. He is moving to a bigger one I hear. ;-)

https://nextdoor.com/real-estate-lis...14748101?is=pr

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton

On 3/20/2020 3:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:25:22 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 03/19/2020 08:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
There was a surprising amount of bleach available at the grocery store,
but it was all that stupid scented stuff. I'll wait until plain bleach
is available again.

You don't like lavender?

My primary use for bleach is sanitizing hummingbird feeders. I'd just
as soon use plain bleach. I've still got about half a gallon left, so
I can be patient. And, of course, it's not hummingbird season yet,
up here. Supposed to be 23 F here tonight.


I don't use bleach for that since I read that they are very sensitive to
such chemicals.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 3/20/2020 3:33 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:25:22 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 03/19/2020 08:30 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
There was a surprising amount of bleach available at the grocery store,
but it was all that stupid scented stuff. I'll wait until plain bleach
is available again.

You don't like lavender?

My primary use for bleach is sanitizing hummingbird feeders. I'd just
as soon use plain bleach. I've still got about half a gallon left, so
I can be patient. And, of course, it's not hummingbird season yet,
up here. Supposed to be 23 F here tonight.


I don't use bleach for that since I read that they are very sensitive to
such chemicals.

We are scrupulous about getting rid of the bleach.

Cindy Hamilton

On 03/20/2020 09:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 20:28:07 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/19/2020 09:35 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

(b) Sheep are responsive to marketing.


Exactly! Why do you think we've had digital/HD TV
for 11 years now? Govt and the manufacturers created
a 'need' for flatter, higher-res TVs! The old system
worked so well, it wasn't making the industry any money.

Sounds like you long for the good old days, when TV was so crappy that you
couldn't tell one Golden Girl from the others.

Yeah, now you can tell if the makeup artist missed a few pimples and
crows feet on the Golden Girl's puss.


Some of these people looked a lot better at NTSC resolution, that's
for sure.


I particularly remember one televised Christy Moore concert. I didn't
really have to know he sweated out a couple of quarts of booze on stage.
He looked like he was digging ditches instead of playing a guitar.

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

Cindy Hamilton

On 21/03/2020 10:23, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

Cindy Hamilton

Wow, that sounds great.

--
Bod

On 3/20/2020 10:20 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up


I would think a pool in Canada would detract from the price because of
the short season. Here in DE it is a neutral item. Does not add or
subtract.

I liked hotel pools in Canada as they were all inside.

Frank:

You from Connecticut or something? lol

If all you like are indoor pools, you might have a hard time
vacationing south of the Florida pan handle.

On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


--
Maggie

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 03:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

Cindy Hamilton

The closest I get to that is sitting in there at 50 or so but it is
the same deal. I really only heat mine when I plan to use it tho. I
can switch the pool solars over to get it a head start and that helps.
You can still never get much more than 15 degrees above the day time
high. Since even in the dead of winter that is going to be in the 60s
you are still starting at 80 or so and I get about 10 degrees an hour
from the heater it isn't horrible. If I start the heater around sun
down it is ready after dinner. That works out great.

On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)

--
Bod

On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)

--
Maggie

On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)

Indeed and why not :-)

--
Bod

On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!
--
Maggie

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 11:50:28 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 03:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

Cindy Hamilton

The closest I get to that is sitting in there at 50 or so but it is
the same deal. I really only heat mine when I plan to use it tho. I
can switch the pool solars over to get it a head start and that helps.
You can still never get much more than 15 degrees above the day time
high. Since even in the dead of winter that is going to be in the 60s
you are still starting at 80 or so and I get about 10 degrees an hour
from the heater it isn't horrible. If I start the heater around sun
down it is ready after dinner. That works out great.

We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

Cindy Hamilton

On 21/03/2020 16:18, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!

Have to agree as an ex Boy Sprout.

--
Bod

On 03/21/2020 04:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

We've got some hot springs that are on public land and are not
developed. The heating takes care of itself.

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/m...on-hot-springs

The latest post says they're still busy. If you visit be advised the
attire can be very, very casual.

On 03/21/2020 06:06 AM, wrote:
Frank:

You from Connecticut or something? lol

If all you like are indoor pools, you might have a hard time
vacationing south of the Florida pan handle.


I thought that was the Gulf south of Apalachicola not a swimming pool.

On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 15:58:04 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)

Easy to say when you live in a place that doesn't really get cold.
Michigan can get Greenland weather.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:19:58 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 11:50:28 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 03:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores. Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them. They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me. My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

Cindy Hamilton

The closest I get to that is sitting in there at 50 or so but it is
the same deal. I really only heat mine when I plan to use it tho. I
can switch the pool solars over to get it a head start and that helps.
You can still never get much more than 15 degrees above the day time
high. Since even in the dead of winter that is going to be in the 60s
you are still starting at 80 or so and I get about 10 degrees an hour
from the heater it isn't horrible. If I start the heater around sun
down it is ready after dinner. That works out great.

We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

Cindy Hamilton

I have an electric heater too, 11kw but I try to get as much help as I
can from the sun. If I had room, I would put up an array of glazed
collectors. Then you can do more like 25 or more over ambient air.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:12:42 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

That is about right for a hot tub, particularly if the ambient air is
below freezing. The strange thing is how long you can walk around
naked after getting out before you need to get back in.

On 21/03/2020 19:49, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 15:58:04 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)

Easy to say when you live in a place that doesn't really get cold.
Michigan can get Greenland weather.

I was joshing.

--
Bod

On 3/21/2020 3:09 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/21/2020 06:06 AM, wrote:
Frank:

You from Connecticut or something?Â* lol

If all you like are indoor pools, you might have a hard time
vacationing south of the Florida pan handle.


I thought that was the Gulf south of Apalachicola not a swimming pool.

When I posted the mention of Canada pools, I was thinking early one year
I went to a conference in Toronto and the hotel had an indoor pool.
Then May that year I went to a course in DC in early May and would have
liked to exercise in the pool but it was outside on the roof and far too
cold.

I prefer outdoor pools but in my travels liked those where you could
swim indoors on cold days and there were more of them the further north
you went.

On 3/21/2020 12:54 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:12:42 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

That is about right for a hot tub, particularly if the ambient air is
below freezing. The strange thing is how long you can walk around
naked after getting out before you need to get back in.


My wife complains when it gets down to 103. 101 feels definitely cool.
Set at 104.

On 3/21/2020 12:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/21/2020 04:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:46:54 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 22:20:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:

Yeah, that is ridiculous. We have a pool store in every strip mall
and
there are two on opposite sides of the road where I go.

Plenty of business in Florida for pool stores.Â* Up here in the icebox,
pools are a minus when selling the house, so not that many people
have them.Â* They're pretty much useful only between Memorial Day and
Labor Day, which is a lot of money for not much return.

Cindy Hamilton
Â*Neighbour just sold his house. He tore out the pool last fall -
figured it made him almost 40 grand on the sale. Or it had been a
brand new pool it would still have cost him close to 20. Folks still
putting them in - but they sure limit your market. He'd likely have
still got hid asking, but he wouldn't have had the multiple offers
that drive the price up

When I lived up in the frozen north I never considered a pool but I
did have a spa. Down here it makes sense. Our season is at least 8
months for us and the kids get in it at Christmas. It is still warmer
than Lake Michigan is in August. (70 or so). Florida people won't get
in until it is 80. I will do 75 but that is about it for me.Â* My dog
doesn't care. He is in it all year long.

We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.

We've got some hot springs that are on public land and are not
developed. The heating takes care of itself.

https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/m...on-hot-springs

The latest post says they're still busy. If you visit be advised the
attire can be very, very casual.


I've been there, back when I was kayaking white water, we would spend a
few days on the Lochsa after Selway trips. Nice soaking!

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 4:24:44 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
I know different channels and different times of day have different
commercials, but have you noticed all the recent TV commercials for
Clorox. Not for use in washing machines, but to kill germs, like for
someone's old, frail mother (in the video), or after fishing your
child's toy out of the toilet (3 versions of that, father, mother,
black, white).

These don't seem to have anything to do with the coronovirus, but OTOH,
they come at such a good time for the Clorox company. Just coincidence?


BTW, there is no H in Clorox, so don't expect to see any chlorine
either, though sometimes it's there.

I expect to find sodium hypochlorite in Clorox.

There was a surprising amount of bleach available at the grocery store,
but it was all that stupid scented stuff. I'll wait until plain bleach
is available again.

Cindy Hamilton

I have number of regular Clorox drops to purify water written down in case
Internet breaks down.

Greg

wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:46:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

:

Actually, here in the NY Metro market, ABC-DT and CBS-DT still use
VHF-Hi(7-13).

Strangely, MeTV(virtual 33.1 in my area) also uses VHF-Hi, making it a bitch
to get in sometimes(2-3 days per week).

I thought they were all off of VHF by now. It must be a legacy thing.
Our channel 11 went to UHF a while ago. It still says channel 11 but
that is not where it is.

The just sold off VHF Hi. Now I have public TV on Orginal channel 4 and
people wondered why the little UHF Digital antennas won't pick it up. The
Channel 13 public channel was originally going to UHF digital, then FCC
said stay on real 13 for some reason. Then making millions of dollars left
to the low band on 63 mHz where you need a 5 foot long antenna.

Greg

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 3:12:08 PM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

It's a hot tub. We find the heat therapeutic.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 3:55:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:12:42 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

That is about right for a hot tub, particularly if the ambient air is
below freezing. The strange thing is how long you can walk around
naked after getting out before you need to get back in.

Depends on how windy it is.

And we've gotten to old to get out of the hot tub and roll in the snow.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:25:42 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 3/21/2020 12:54 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:12:42 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 03/21/2020 10:19 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We keep it at 101 or so. Maybe a little warmer in the winter because
as soon as we open the lid the heat starts leaving. Electric resistance
heating.

101? Are you running a lobster pound?

That is about right for a hot tub, particularly if the ambient air is
below freezing. The strange thing is how long you can walk around
naked after getting out before you need to get back in.


My wife complains when it gets down to 103. 101 feels definitely cool.
Set at 104.

Spa thermostats are mot always accurate. You can check it against a
"fever" thermometer as a sanity check.

On 3/21/2020 12:06 PM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:18, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!

Have to agree as an ex Boy Sprout.


First class girl scout here ... salute, brother sprout ... lol

--
Maggie

On 22/03/2020 17:21, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 12:06 PM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:18, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!

Have to agree as an ex Boy Sprout.


First class girl scout here ... salute, brother sprout ... lol

Salute reciprocated :-)

--
Bod

On 03/22/2020 11:21 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 12:06 PM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:18, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors. We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!

Have to agree as an ex Boy Sprout.


First class girl scout here ... salute, brother sprout ... lol


Ah, the good old days when Boy Scouts were, er, boys. Somehow I never
was assaulted by a scout leader or priest. We did tend to practice
social distancing from adults who seemed a little fruity. In retrospect
most of those were probably straight as a ruler but just had some
mannerisms that were suspect or were a little to suave.

On 3/22/2020 2:27 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 03/22/2020 11:21 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 12:06 PM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:18, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 11:10 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 16:02, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 10:58 AM, Bod wrote:
On 21/03/2020 15:46, Muggles wrote:
On 3/21/2020 5:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:


We've got a hot tub, outdoors.Â* We spend a ton of money heating it
all year, but sitting in it watching snow fall is great.


I'd like to have one of those swim hot tubs, and set it up in an
all
weather deck that can be enclosed when too cold.


Wimp.....;-)


If I'm going to pay for something that's a comfort item, I'm going to
have it so I can use it efficiently and comfortably as often as
possible! :-)


Indeed and why not :-)


Plan ahead is an essential part of the Girl Scout motto!

Have to agree as an ex Boy Sprout.


First class girl scout here ... salute, brother sprout ... lol


Ah, the good old days when Boy Scouts were, er, boys. Somehow I never
was assaulted by a scout leader or priest. We did tend to practice
social distancing from adults who seemed a little fruity. In retrospect
most of those were probably straight as a ruler but just had some
mannerisms that were suspect or were a little to suave.



yeah .. I remember those days, too.

--
Maggie