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What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has
resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. |
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest would refer to that as "resigning". |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? We lost enormous amounts of talent in the 3 years, and they're not going to come back if they've lost their seniority. And most won't even think to re-apply for their jobs unless they get an invitation. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. I guess you don't read well what I wrote, and you don't listen well, because nothing I heard said they all resigned. all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest would refer to that as "resigning". I don't think 'quit' is the proper term. Maybe it's not resign either but I was clear nonetheless, I said just one line up, "Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case." Only a jackass would refer to that as dishonest, like you did. |
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On 2/12/2020 2:38 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? We lost enormous amounts of talent in the 3 years, and they're not going to come back if they've lost their seniority. And most won't even think to re-apply for their jobs unless they get an invitation. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. I guess you don't read well what I wrote, and you don't listen well, because nothing I heard said they all resigned. all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest would refer to that as "resigning". I don't think 'quit' is the proper term. Maybe it's not resign either but I was clear nonetheless, I said just one line up, "Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case." Only a jackass would refer to that as dishonest, like you did. You are incredibly dense. Who were the prosecutors who resigned? What was their former job? |
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 2:38:44 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? Because it is. A president is entitled to his own choices for positions. And that's where all the fired people, AGAIk have been. There might be an exception, but almost all are subject to presidential selection. For an incoming president to pick staffers just because the previous president fired him, is beyond stupid. You're going to pick a Democrat who agrees with the crazy libs, for a position, just because the previous president fired them? Or a lib president is going to pick John Bolton, just because Trump fired him? WTF? We lost enormous amounts of talent in the 3 years, and they're not going to come back if they've lost their seniority. And most won't even think to re-apply for their jobs unless they get an invitation. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. I guess you don't read well what I wrote, and you don't listen well, because nothing I heard said they all resigned. Google broken? https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...18a_story.html Prosecutors quit amid escalating Justice Dept. fight over Roger Stones prison term https://www.today.com/video/roger-st...ce-78608453610 Roger Stone prosecutors resign in DOJ fight over prison sentence https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...stone-n1134961 All four Roger Stone prosecutors resign from case after DOJ backpedals on sentencing recommendation all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest would refer to that as "resigning". I don't think 'quit' is the proper term. Maybe it's not resign either but I was clear nonetheless, I said just one line up, "Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case." Only a jackass would refer to that as dishonest, like you did. That isn't what I said. I said you fell for the lib media spin, which you obviously have. You claim you don't know that the media is calling the four prosecutors withdrawing from the case "resigning" and you obviously are too lazy to use Google. So, you're drinking at the lib trough, as usual. And what I said was dishonest was the media using the term resigning, trying to make it look like they resigned period, as opposed to withdrawing from the case. You can bet if it was a Democrat, the media would be very careful to have headlines that say, four prosecutors remove themselves from the case or similar. That's one reason Trump got elected and he might again. |
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On 2/12/2020 2:38 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? No Micky, simply because you're not as smart as you think you are. |
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On 2/12/2020 6:45 PM, Hawk wrote:
On 2/12/2020 2:38 PM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? No Micky, simply because you're not as smart as you think you are. Probably also dumber than we think he is. |
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On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 14:38:38 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? We lost enormous amounts of talent in the 3 years, and they're not going to come back if they've lost their seniority. And most won't even think to re-apply for their jobs unless they get an invitation. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. I guess you don't read well what I wrote, and you don't listen well, because nothing I heard said they all resigned. all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest would refer to that as "resigning". I don't think 'quit' is the proper term. Maybe it's not resign either but I was clear nonetheless, I said just one line up, "Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case." Only a jackass would refer to that as dishonest, like you did. Well it appears you hit THAT nail on the head - - - |
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On 02/12/2020 11:20 AM, micky wrote:
What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. I doubt Trump will forgive and forget when he gets re-elected. |
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On 02/12/2020 06:11 PM, Frank wrote:
On 2/12/2020 6:45 PM, Hawk wrote: On 2/12/2020 2:38 PM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? No Micky, simply because you're not as smart as you think you are. Probably also dumber than we think he is. That would be impossible unless he's a bot programmed by an 8th grader. |
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On 02/12/2020 11:20 AM, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. I doubt Trump will forgive and forget when he gets re-elected. He could well go down in history as the only US president to be impeached twice unsuccessfully. This is how democracy fails. |
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On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 7:49:42 AM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
rbowman used his or her keyboard to write : On 02/12/2020 11:20 AM, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. I doubt Trump will forgive and forget when he gets re-elected. He could well go down in history as the only US president to be impeached twice unsuccessfully. This is how democracy fails. If he gets re-elected, I'd say there is a good chance of that. Just look at what he's already doing. This Roger Stone thing is a classic. Everyone knows he's going to pardon all of his criminal buddies. If he loses the election, it will be before he leaves office. If he wins, knowing Trump, I would expect within months of his win, maybe in his inaugural speech. So, why pull this further, stupid, divisive stunt? Just let justice play out. Who knows what sentence the judge will hand out? The DOJ says 7 to 9, Stone's lawyers will say probation. Maybe she gives him 2 years. BFD. Trump is going to pardon him anyway. But no, once again, Trump had to corrupt the office of president, destroy the integrity of the system of justice, for nothing. He not only attacked the sentence recommendation, he basically claimed that Stone really did nothing wrong, when he lied many times to Congress and investigators, intimidated witnesses, disobeyed the judges gag order and even posted a photo of the judge with cross hairs. That's Trump's kind of guy. So, Trump thinks this will make him look good to his minions. And already Congress is starting an investigation into this, calling Barr to answer questions. And so, on it goes. And then Trump claims that he's not the cause of most of the terrible, divisive turmoil. |
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On 2/13/2020 6:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
rbowman used his or her keyboard to write : On 02/12/2020 11:20 AM, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. I doubt Trump will forgive and forget when he gets re-elected. He could well go down in history as the only US president to be impeached twice unsuccessfully. This is how democracy fails. The US is a Constitutional Republic with democratic principles included. Democracy alone will always fail. -- Maggie |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 20:48:38 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 14:38:38 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:02:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 1:20:47 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: What the next president should do is offer to hire back everyone who has resigned under Stumpie, complete with seniority and whatever else they had because of prior longevity. As much as I despise Trump, that's an incredibly stupid idea. Why, because you say so? We lost enormous amounts of talent in the 3 years, and they're not going to come back if they've lost their seniority. And most won't even think to re-apply for their jobs unless they get an invitation. This includes the prosecutor on the Roger Stone case who resigned**, You've fallen for the lib media spin. They didn't resign from their jobs, the withdrew from being the prosecutors on the case. Which is what the media should have reported, if they were honest. I guess you don't read well what I wrote, and you don't listen well, because nothing I heard said they all resigned. all those from the Dept. of Agriculture, and maybe every US department and agency, and all who couldn't stomach stumpie. 99% were talented people and all got new jobs, but they might still want their old jobs back, because they believe in public service, because the commute is easier, or any other reason. **Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case. None actually resigned, they just quit the case. Only the dishonest ======================== would refer to that as "resigning". I don't think 'quit' is the proper term. Maybe it's not resign either but I was clear nonetheless, I said just one line up, "Only one resigned. The other 3 resigned from the case." Only a jackass would refer to that as dishonest, like you did. Well it appears you hit THAT nail on the head - - - LOL And the news repeated today that one had resigned from the department, quit his job, just like I said. Generally, the more complicated story, or the one with more details, like one quitting and 3 withdrawing from the case, is more likely to be true -- not always but more likely -- at least when dealing with news. It usually means a reporter talked to more people and/or for examplle here, didn't assume because he found that 3 withdrew from the case, that all 4 did. That's why news stories are often amended in the next edition. Trader should not be so sure of himself |
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Wrong again, numb nuts. You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors
on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case. Wrong! There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. Only TODAY, not yesterday, the woman who heads the DC federal prosecutors office, who Trump had nominated for a spot at Treasury, quit. Got that, she just quit today, not yesterday, when you were making the claim. Are you clairvoyant? From NBC news: Feb. 13, 2020, 4:30 PM UTC By Peter Alexander and Dareh Gregorian The former U.S. attorney whose office oversaw the Roger Stone prosecution resigned from the Trump administration Wednesday, two days after President Donald Trump abruptly withdrew her nomination for a top job at the Treasury Department." Got it now? You didn't hear it again today, you heard it today for the first time. You're kind of like Trump, get something wrong, then double down and start bitching about how someone else is the one with the fake news instead of checking. |
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts. You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case. Wrong! There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. |
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On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts. You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case. Wrong! There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 |
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On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote:
On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:09:53 AM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts. You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case. Wrong! There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. The truth is always welcomed. I Googled several time for prosecutors resigning and the only hits I got were the media referring to the four withdrawing from the case, not quitting their jobs. It's surprising that so many media sources went with misleading headlines and didn't make it clear that three withdrew from the case and one withdrew and quit. And then Liu quit on Wed. All this could have been avoided if Micky just supplied a link or at least a name. But he was right and I apologize. Thanks for clearing it up. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:18:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above.. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. All honest people with ethics, from what I see. Those are the ones that Trump dislikes. The kind of people he praises are guys like Manafort, a $60 mil tax cheat and money launderer. He says he admires him, because he refused to cooperate with the govt investigators. And Roger Stone, a longtime dirty trickster, convicted of multiple counts of lying to Congress and making threats to intimidate other witnesses. He even disobeyed the gag order the judge put in place and posted an image of the judge with cross hairs online. Those are examples of the kind of people Trump stands up for. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:09:53 AM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts. You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case. Wrong! There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. When Micky claimed a prosecutor had resigned, I Googled several ways for "prosecutor resigning" and all I saw were references to the four prosecutors resigning from the case. Which was poor wording on the part of much of the media, the headlines should have been withdrew from the case. But I agree now that three withdrew, one withdrew by resigning their position. And Liu, in charge of the office, resigned a day or two later. This could have been avoided if Micky had provided a link or a name. But he was right and I apologize. And now Barr delivered that scorching, unprecedented rebuke to Trump. That's the end of him being Trump's guy and Trump must be boiling over about now with rage. Where will it spill over? Will he fire Barr or nuke KJU? The latter isn't just a joke, with a president like this with obvious serious moral and mental problems, it's not a good thing. Sadly the trumpets don't realize it. Hopefully the Democrats will wind up with a reasonable candidate to solve the problem and give Trump what he so richly deserves. But sadly, do you think that will be the end of it? If Trump loses, I see him doing the usual, claiming voter fraud, the media did it. And unlike all previous former presidents who kept quiet or at the most made some very limited comments, I bet the twitter **** storm will continue, unabated, dividing America, disrupting our govt, as long as people will listen. |
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On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. |
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On 2/14/2020 4:56 AM, tax-payer wrote:
On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 KAG! -- Maggie |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 05:56:25 -0500, tax-payer
wrote: President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 I give him credit for that. Look at all the criminals he's brought into his tent before they get sent off to prison. He certainly has a knack for getting the alligators to come crawling out of the swamp. Go Trump Go! Let's get more of his folks out of the swamp and behind bars. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:11:16 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:18:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. All honest people with ethics, from what I see. Those are the ones that Trump dislikes. The kind of people he praises are guys like Manafort, a $60 mil tax cheat and money launderer. He says he admires him, because he refused to cooperate with the govt investigators. And Roger Stone, a longtime dirty trickster, convicted of multiple counts of lying to Congress and making threats to intimidate other witnesses. He even disobeyed the gag order the judge put in place and posted an image of the judge with cross hairs online. Those are examples of the kind of people Trump stands up for. Trump seems to have an element of mob mentality, where loyalty to him is Job 1. People who don't show the right amount of loyalty are bullied and tossed under the bus. How does this guy have nearly 40% approval? Who are those people? Rhetorical questions, of course. He frequently refers to 'dirty copy, liars, leakers, and flippers', all the things he dislikes the most. He's referring, of course, to the honest people who stand up for the rule of law. We've had bad Presidents before, but not like this. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:16:15 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:
On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. Trump 'knows all the best people'. Strangely, they seem to be all heading toward the slammer. It's his way of draining the swamp. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:11:16 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 10:18:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. All honest people with ethics, from what I see. Those are the ones that Trump dislikes. The kind of people he praises are guys like Manafort, a $60 mil tax cheat and money launderer. He says he admires him, because he refused to cooperate with the govt investigators. And Roger Stone, a longtime dirty trickster, convicted of multiple counts of lying to Congress and making threats to intimidate other witnesses. He even disobeyed the gag order the judge put in place and posted an image of the judge with cross hairs online. Those are examples of the kind of people Trump stands up for. Trump seems to have an element of mob mentality, where loyalty to him is Job 1. People who don't show the right amount of loyalty are bullied and tossed under the bus. How does this guy have nearly 40% approval? Who are those people? Rhetorical questions, of course. I think a large part of it is many of those people listen exclusively to the sources like Fox News and right wing radio talk shows. They refuse to use mainstream sources and won't look at the best evidence, which is what Trump actually said and did. And Fox and the right wing bunch have gotten to the point where they explain away, spin, excuse just about every damn thing Trump does. If a Democrat had gone to NK, came back and said that they trust KJU, that they are sure he's denuclearizing, that the threat from their nukes is over, you and I know exactly what Fox, Hannity, Rush, etc would all be saying. They would be calling it stupid, treasonous. Trump does it and they say it's a great thing. Plenty more examples like that. I hear that and I say, OMG, what a sad sack of BS. The trumpets apparently believe it. He frequently refers to 'dirty copy, liars, leakers, and flippers', all the things he dislikes the most. He's referring, of course, to the honest people who stand up for the rule of law. We've had bad Presidents before, but not like this. +1 I knew if he was elected that he would do damage to the office. Trump has no respect for the office, none at all. The damage now is extensive. The remaining question is whether it can be undone and how long it will take. |
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On 2/14/2020 2:12 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. All honest people with ethics, from what I see. Those are the ones that Trump dislikes. The kind of people he praises are guys like Manafort, a $60 mil tax cheat and money launderer. He says he admires him, because he refused to cooperate with the govt investigators. And Roger Stone, a longtime dirty trickster, convicted of multiple counts of lying to Congress and making threats to intimidate other witnesses. He even disobeyed the gag order the judge put in place and posted an image of the judge with cross hairs online. Those are examples of the kind of people Trump stands up for. Trump seems to have an element of mob mentality, where loyalty to him is Job 1. People who don't show the right amount of loyalty are bullied and tossed under the bus. How does this guy have nearly 40% approval? Who are those people? Rhetorical questions, of course. He frequently refers to 'dirty copy, liars, leakers, and flippers', all the things he dislikes the most. He's referring, of course, to the honest people who stand up for the rule of law. We've had bad Presidents before, but not like this. When he was campaigning he did say he likes the uneducated people. I was glad Hillary lost but did not vote for Trump. When he won I hoped he would do a decent job but that did not work out. The 40% though are just infatuated with him and his junior high rhetoric. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that.. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. ROFL. As if Trump inherited all, or even most of his staff and they are the root of the problem. We call that the poor widdle Trump defense. The truth is that the vast majority of the people that were allegedly "problems", were hired by Trump and he assured us they were the very best people. And by and large, they were at least qualified. But soon they ran afoul of the orange clown and then they were just no good bums. And alleged to be someone else's fault, with the vague "swamp" or "deep state" being a convenient place to point the finger. But it's TRUMP that picked these people, not some swamp. This is another example of how Trump has completely gutted the GOP of all it's values, morals and brains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...resign ations Priebus Kelly - P's replacement Nielsen Bannon Gorka Flynn McMaster Bolton McFarland Spicer Dubke The Mooch - who could forget him! Cohn Navarro Omarossa Tillerson - who could forget her! Sessions Mattis Those are just a sampling, most of the names that people would recognize. They were all appointed by Trump. All this in just 3 years. What a **** show. Thank you for another Trump teaching moment. |
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On Friday, February 14, 2020 at 4:28:37 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/14/2020 2:12 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool. Some honest people with ethics got flushed. All honest people with ethics, from what I see. Those are the ones that Trump dislikes. The kind of people he praises are guys like Manafort, a $60 mil tax cheat and money launderer. He says he admires him, because he refused to cooperate with the govt investigators. And Roger Stone, a longtime dirty trickster, convicted of multiple counts of lying to Congress and making threats to intimidate other witnesses. He even disobeyed the gag order the judge put in place and posted an image of the judge with cross hairs online. Those are examples of the kind of people Trump stands up for. Trump seems to have an element of mob mentality, where loyalty to him is Job 1. People who don't show the right amount of loyalty are bullied and tossed under the bus. How does this guy have nearly 40% approval? Who are those people? Rhetorical questions, of course. He frequently refers to 'dirty copy, liars, leakers, and flippers', all the things he dislikes the most. He's referring, of course, to the honest people who stand up for the rule of law. We've had bad Presidents before, but not like this. When he was campaigning he did say he likes the uneducated people. I was glad Hillary lost but did not vote for Trump. When he won I hoped he would do a decent job but that did not work out. The 40% though are just infatuated with him and his junior high rhetoric. Kind of where I'm at. I knew he was an ahole, expected a **** show, it was obvious from what he was doing during the campaign. But I too hoped he might improve and grow into the job. So, what was his first major move? Why to deny that Russia had meddled in the election, to accept Putin's lies and to side with him over America. He vilified the US intel agencies. He should have been impeached for that, being Putin's puppet. And following through on that, acting on Putin's lies are what got him impeached. And now, retaliating against those that told the truth while he was acting on Putin's Ukraine lies is going on right now. |
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On 2/14/2020 2:27 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:16:15 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. Trump 'knows all the best people'. Strangely, they seem to be all heading toward the slammer. It's his way of draining the swamp. Mainly he was talking about people left over from the past administration and in spite of what you think some of these are the ones headed toward the slammer. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:16:15 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:
On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. His leftovers seem to be fine. It's his new hires that seem to be heading to the klink in surprising numbers. (He knows the best people, but still hires criminals. Go figure.) |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:58:46 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:
On 2/14/2020 2:27 PM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 12:16:15 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/14/2020 10:18 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/14/2020 5:56 AM, tax-payer wrote: On 2/14/20 12:09 AM, Jim Joyce wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:15:55 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: Wrong again, numb nuts.** You wrote YESTERDAY that one of the prosecutors on the Stone Case had resigned from their job, three others just resigned from the case.* Wrong!* There were four prosecutors and all withdrew from the case, none of them resigned from their job. I certainly don't want to get in the middle of anything, but multiple news outlets have been reporting since yesterday that one of the 4 prosecutors resigned from his job. quote from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/12/prosecutors_quit_roger_stone_case_in_dispute_over_ sentence_142375.html: Aaron Zelinsky, a Mueller team member, quit the case and his job in Washington, with plans to return to his position as a federal prosecutor in Baltimore. Another early Mueller team member, Adam Jed, also withdrew from the case. His status at the Justice Department was unclear. Another federal prosecutor in Washington, Michael Marando, withdrew from the case, and a fourth trial team member, Jonathan Kravis, resigned his position as an assistant U.S. attorney. /unquote Similar story in the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-federal-prosecutors.html quote: Mr. Kravis, 42, said in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon that he had resigned from his post at the Justice Department and therefore no longer represents the government in this matter. He worked in the U.S. Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia. Also, he had been a trial attorney in the public integrity section of the Justice Departments criminal division, according to his law school biography at George Washington University, where he was listed as a professorial lecturer. /unquote That last guy, Jonathan Kravis, seems to be the one who quit his job after resigning from the case. Then today we get word that Jesse Lui resigned, as you mentioned above. It's **** show upon **** show in DC right now. The last 3 years were bad, but it's a **** blizzard since the acquittal. President Trump vowed to drain the Swamp...and he's doing exactly that. MAGA Trump 2020 Yes, but it is sad that so many good people got sucked into the whirlpool.* Some honest people with ethics got flushed. Trump was asked about his biggest mistake and he said it was staff. These people work for you and like in the military may make suggestions but you have final word. He should not have retained all the left over people he did and now he knows it. Trump 'knows all the best people'. Strangely, they seem to be all heading toward the slammer. It's his way of draining the swamp. Mainly he was talking about people left over from the past administration and in spite of what you think some of these are the ones headed toward the slammer. Let's compare lists of people who have been convicted. First, the Trump associates: Michael Cohen - convicted and sentenced Paul Manafort - convicted and sentenced George Papadopoulos - convicted and sentenced Richard Pinedo - convicted and sentenced Alex van der Zwaan - convicted and sentenced Rick Gates - convicted and sentenced Roger Stone - convicted, awaiting sentencing Mike Flynn - convicted, awaiting sentencing 13 Russian citizens - indicted, not yet convicted 12 Russian military intel officers - indicted, not yet convicted Konstantin Kilimnik, Ukraine - indicted, not yet convicted That's all I can think of offhand, just the higher profile criminals, and I could be misremembering some of those details, so please make corrections where needed. Let's compare that list to your list of holdovers who have been convicted of something. Who knows, I could be conveniently forgetting a whole bunch of bad actors. |
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On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:44:19 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:25:32 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: Like Kellyanne Conway's husband says, it's a **** show within a dumpster fire, or vice versa. I can't remember now and don't want to look it up. It's interesting that he feels obliged to speak up. With so many people complaining about Stumpie, one fewer wouldn't matter much, and it seems he's endangering his marriage. Either she agrees with him (really hard to believe, given what she says at work) or their marriage isn't worth much (possible) or she's incredibly tolerant (which would by definition be unbelievable). I don't subscribe to the idea that a married couple needs to speak with one voice on political matters. I commend the Conway couple for having the courage of their convictions and for speaking up for what they believe. Interestingly, Kellyanne used to say some pretty harsh things about Trump before she went to work for him, but that's her option. Another example of a high profile couple with visibly different political views is that of James Carville and Mary Matalin. Those two used to shout and argue like cats and dogs on TV, then presumably they'd go home together in the same car. He's a Democrat while she's a Republican. Chester James Carville Jr. is an American political commentator, media personality, and lawyer who is a prominent figure in the Democratic Party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville "Mary Joe Matalin is an American political consultant well known for her work with the Republican Party. She has served under President Ronald Reagan, was campaign director for George H. W. Bush, was an assistant to President George W. Bush, and counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney until 2003." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Matalin |
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On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 12:41:48 PM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:44:19 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:25:32 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: Like Kellyanne Conway's husband says, it's a **** show within a dumpster fire, or vice versa. I can't remember now and don't want to look it up. It's interesting that he feels obliged to speak up. With so many people complaining about Stumpie, one fewer wouldn't matter much, and it seems he's endangering his marriage. Either she agrees with him (really hard to believe, given what she says at work) or their marriage isn't worth much (possible) or she's incredibly tolerant (which would by definition be unbelievable). I don't subscribe to the idea that a married couple needs to speak with one voice on political matters. I commend the Conway couple for having the courage of their convictions and for speaking up for what they believe. Interestingly, Kellyanne used to say some pretty harsh things about Trump before she went to work for him, but that's her option. Disagreeing is one thing, but IDK how a marriage can survive a spouse frequently blasting the guy the other spouse works for. Another example of a high profile couple with visibly different political views is that of James Carville and Mary Matalin. Those two used to shout and argue like cats and dogs on TV, then presumably they'd go home together in the same car. He's a Democrat while she's a Republican. It's a bit different there. They are both political consultants, it's the job of each of them to represent their clients. George Conway is just a lawyer, it's not his job to work for the other side. And AFAIK, neither of them worked for a president in office. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 15 Feb 2020 11:41:44 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:44:19 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:25:32 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: Like Kellyanne Conway's husband says, it's a **** show within a dumpster fire, or vice versa. I can't remember now and don't want to look it up. It's interesting that he feels obliged to speak up. With so many people complaining about Stumpie, one fewer wouldn't matter much, and it seems he's endangering his marriage. Either she agrees with him (really hard to believe, given what she says at work) or their marriage isn't worth much (possible) or she's incredibly tolerant (which would by definition be unbelievable). I don't subscribe to the idea that a married couple needs to speak with one voice on political matters. Neither do I but this is such an extreme example. I commend the Conway couple for having the courage of their convictions and for speaking up for what they believe. Interestingly, Kellyanne used to say some pretty harsh things about Trump before she went to work for him, but that's her option. That would be my option 1, she agrees with her husband. Maybe she thinks he's doing penance for her sins. Another example of a high profile couple with visibly different political views is that of James Carville and Mary Matalin. Those two used to shout and argue like cats and dogs on TV, then presumably they'd go home together in the same car. He's a Democrat while she's a Republican. Chester James Carville Jr. is an American political commentator, media personality, and lawyer who is a prominent figure in the Democratic Party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville "Mary Joe Matalin is an American political consultant well known for her work with the Republican Party. She has served under President Ronald Reagan, was campaign director for George H. W. Bush, was an assistant to President George W. Bush, and counselor to Vice President Dick Cheney until 2003." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Matalin But neither of their employers were being attacked and neither of their jobs were in danger. Plus after each of their TV arguments they could have make-up sex. I also have a friend, a liberal who at age 55 married a conservative about 10 years older than she. They get along well. . |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:49:07 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Saturday, February 15, 2020 at 12:41:48 PM UTC-5, Jim Joyce wrote: On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 20:44:19 -0500, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:25:32 -0600, Jim Joyce wrote: Like Kellyanne Conway's husband says, it's a **** show within a dumpster fire, or vice versa. I can't remember now and don't want to look it up. It's interesting that he feels obliged to speak up. With so many people complaining about Stumpie, one fewer wouldn't matter much, and it seems he's endangering his marriage. Either she agrees with him (really hard to believe, given what she says at work) or their marriage isn't worth much (possible) or she's incredibly tolerant (which would by definition be unbelievable). I don't subscribe to the idea that a married couple needs to speak with one voice on political matters. I commend the Conway couple for having the courage of their convictions and for speaking up for what they believe. Interestingly, Kellyanne used to say some pretty harsh things about Trump before she went to work for him, but that's her option. Disagreeing is one thing, but IDK how a marriage can survive a spouse frequently blasting the guy the other spouse works for. She's really good at taking a question and pivoting to something else entirely. A typical husband/wife argument must be tough for George to win. Another example of a high profile couple with visibly different political views is that of James Carville and Mary Matalin. Those two used to shout and argue like cats and dogs on TV, then presumably they'd go home together in the same car. He's a Democrat while she's a Republican. It's a bit different there. They are both political consultants, it's the job of each of them to represent their clients. George Conway is just a lawyer, it's not his job to work for the other side. And AFAIK, neither of them worked for a president in office. True, but that was the best example I could think of at the time. |
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