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Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.
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Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


I fixed the carbon fiber radiator top with epoxy and window screen and
it lasted years. It was still that way when I sold the car.
The trick is surface prep, really clean, scuffed up pretty good, and
heated up with lacquer thinner.
Then work the epoxy into the surface well, embed the screen, getting
it as flat as possible, add more epoxy and repeat. Do it face up so
epoxy completely fills the void. Make the patch plenty wide so you get
a lot of surface involved (4" or so from the crack anyway). It will
probably hold up until the truck grabs it crooked again or the guys
bang the patch hard on the lip of the hopper.

Or just buy a new can.
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How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?
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Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?

If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.

Cindy Hamilton


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On 1/22/2020 6:39 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?

If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.

Cindy Hamilton


That's right. Polyethylene cracking means it is degraded and needs to
be replaced.
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On 1/22/2020 6:20 AM, Thomas wrote:
How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


My garage is wider than average and will accept cans and cars.
I did however, when they delivered an extra can for recycle, ask the
guy, "Where can I put my ****ing cars?". Most neighbors have cans and
cars parked in the driveway with garage full of other stuff.
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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.



Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.

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How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


sawzall
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On 1/22/20 5:20 AM, Thomas wrote:
How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


Cut it up into small, unrecognizable pieces?

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On 1/22/20 6:33 AM, Frank wrote:
On 1/22/2020 6:20 AM, Thomas wrote:
How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


My garage is wider than average and will accept cans and cars.
I did however, when they delivered an extra can for recycle, ask the
guy, "Where can I put my ****ing cars?".Â* Most neighbors have cans and
cars parked in the driveway with garage full of other stuff.


I still get one car (and the garbage/recycling cans) in my 2-car garage,
although I've only had this house for 22 years.

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government on earth, general or particular, and what no government
should refuse, or rest on inference." -- Thomas Jefferson
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On 1/22/20 9:26 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Thomas writes:
How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


sawzall


That's what I'd use (assuming it was my can, of course).

BTW, once I put a self-propelled mower in the garbage, in parts. The
only part that needed power tools was the deck.

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On 1/22/20 9:26 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Thomas writes:
How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


sawzall


That's what I'd use (assuming it was my can, of course).

BTW, once I put a self-propelled mower in the garbage, in parts. The
only part that needed power tools was the deck.


We would just set it out there and they would take it. They took a
king sized mattress with the trash about a month ago. My neighbor
always has furniture sitting out there. I think he buys cheap or just
finds stuff for free and when he finds something a little nicer, he
trades up.

They took a whole bathroom away from here when I remodeled.
Tub, toilet vanity/sink and 20 white buckets full of tile, concrete
and other debris along with some lumber. They grumbled a little but
they took it.
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Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.


take forever and if it can be done at all, needs experience to do it
righth

3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.


All 4 ideas seem way to difficult and some don't seem likely to work.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


I would get some of that waterproof tape they run commericals for, with
the boat they cut down the middle and then repair. Wisty-seal?? I
think it's pretty strong.

If not that, then use Gorilla Tape. One of my plastic garbage cans will
be 36 years old in May. I never drag it along the ground so the bottom
lasts. But yours has wheels.

I had a second can that did wear out, I think becasue someone would let
it slam on the ground when partly full, and the replacement is at least
24 years olds.

Recently, one of the lids got a leak and sometimes in the summer I
applied overlapping layers of Gorilla tape to the outside. I woudl have
just used one but the first one didn't come out right, so 2 is better.
I would have put tape inside but didnt' t hink I needed it for this
purpose. In your case, I'd put a layer inside too, if I can get the
inside reasonably clean. A little dirt won't matter but slime will keep
the tape from sticking. It's rained, it's been hot, and so far it
looks like new.

Neither of these repairs will take more than a couple minutes.

Interestingly, Gorilla Tape in the size roll I got was cheaper at HDepot
than Wal-mart, who would have you believe they are always cheap.


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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.



Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :


Even if it does belong to the hauler, it's in society's interest to
repair it. Why throw away 5 pounds of plastic to fill landfill and
never degrade if you can delay that. If the repair won't take too
much time or money, I'd repair it. You can replace it in a few years
when the repair failes.

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.


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How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?


ONe day the garbage men took my garbage can when I didn't want them to.
It was filled up when I set it out, and, probably after they emptied it,
they decided it should go. It had big problems (5 or 6 vertical slits
about 8 to 14" long) but I could still have used it. I just wouldn't
have put small things in that could escape through the slits. Any small
things would have been put in bags. But I understand that few of
their customers think like I do, so on average they did the right thing.

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On 1/22/2020 7:18 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:45:24 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.


take forever and if it can be done at all, needs experience to do it
righth

3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.


All 4 ideas seem way to difficult and some don't seem likely to work.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


I would get some of that waterproof tape they run commericals for, with
the boat they cut down the middle and then repair. Wisty-seal?? I
think it's pretty strong.

If not that, then use Gorilla Tape. One of my plastic garbage cans will
be 36 years old in May. I never drag it along the ground so the bottom
lasts. But yours has wheels.

I had a second can that did wear out, I think becasue someone would let
it slam on the ground when partly full, and the replacement is at least
24 years olds.

Recently, one of the lids got a leak and sometimes in the summer I
applied overlapping layers of Gorilla tape to the outside. I woudl have
just used one but the first one didn't come out right, so 2 is better.
I would have put tape inside but didnt' t hink I needed it for this
purpose. In your case, I'd put a layer inside too, if I can get the
inside reasonably clean. A little dirt won't matter but slime will keep
the tape from sticking. It's rained, it's been hot, and so far it
looks like new.

Neither of these repairs will take more than a couple minutes.

Interestingly, Gorilla Tape in the size roll I got was cheaper at HDepot
than Wal-mart, who would have you believe they are always cheap.


Gorilla tape will work. I have it on a crack on the lid of kitchen can.
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How does one put a garbage can in the garbage?

Cut it up and put it in a garbage bag???
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Interestingly, Gorilla Tape in the size roll I got was cheaper at HDepot
than Wal-mart, who would have you believe they are always cheap.

I went to a commercial belt distributor to buy a belt for my
snowblower and it was less than half the price of the cheapest one I
could buy on-line (including shipping) - and it was a premier brand
(gates Tri-Power)
WHo'd have thought the cheapest place to buy a belt would be a brick
and mortar local specialty shop????

I wanted a spare in case this one breaks in the next snow storm - or
the one after that, or 5 years from now. I called the local NAPA store
- not in stock, but available in 2 days - same price - again half what
I'd pay on-line.

Gotta love this "offline shopping" and buying from places you might
actually logically expect to stock the stuff - - - -

Just sayin'


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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:39:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :


Even if it does belong to the hauler, it's in society's interest to
repair it. Why throw away 5 pounds of plastic to fill landfill and
never degrade if you can delay that. If the repair won't take too
much time or money, I'd repair it. You can replace it in a few years
when the repair failes.

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.



I did agree with your use of Gorilla tape. It might extend the
lifetime. Container is likely PE which is recyclable.

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck
and should be picked for recycle at the dump. It is done like that in
many places and in order to recycle you have to have people at the dump
anyway to pick through the recycle.
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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 8:02:38 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck
and should be picked for recycle at the dump. It is done like that in
many places and in order to recycle you have to have people at the dump
anyway to pick through the recycle.


Paper for recycling has to be clean. If it's got coffee grounds, oil, etc.,
it cannot be recycled.

I doubt they could hire people to wade through disposable diapers, rotting
meat, etc. just to get the useful recyclables separated and cleaned.

We switched some years back to single-stream recycling, so we only need
two cans (and two trucks). One for recycling and one for things headed
to the landfill.

If I am reliably informed, King County, WA, requires compostables to be
disposed of separately. Your carrot peels can't go in with your
diapers.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton
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Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup.


We switched some years back to single-stream recycling, so we only need
two cans (and two trucks). One for recycling and one for things headed
to the landfill.
Cindy Hamilton


Here we have :
2 wheeled bins ; 1 truck ; every 2 weeks.
No compost pick-up - we're rural and composters are no problem.
All the recycle-bin stuff gets sorted at the big recycling facility.
Homeowners need to take any hazardous waste to the landfill's
collection area on certain specific days.
My only complaint is that they recently excluded some plastics
- not because of recycling value - but for sorting difficulty -
- a better solution should be offered - like having the homeowner
sort/bundle/bag the difficult items.
John T.

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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 9:35:35 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


5. Get up early, swap it with your neighbor's identical bin. He'll blame the guys on the truck. Problem solved.



Here they have serial numbers, so that's probably not a good idea.

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On 1/22/2020 7:22 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:46:23 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:39:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :


Even if it does belong to the hauler, it's in society's interest to
repair it. Why throw away 5 pounds of plastic to fill landfill and
never degrade if you can delay that. If the repair won't take too
much time or money, I'd repair it. You can replace it in a few years
when the repair failes.

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.



I did agree with your use of Gorilla tape. It might extend the
lifetime. Container is likely PE which is recyclable.

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will


He's never invited me to his house. I don't think he likes me very
much.


see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck


I don't think they actually use 3 trucks for this, that there's more
than one section in one truck.

OR, something like here, one truck but it instead of taking everything
two times a week, it takes one thing one day and the other stuff the
other day.

But some place around here is switching to single stream.


and should be picked for recycle at the dump. It is done like that in
many places and in order to recycle you have to have people at the dump
anyway to pick through the recycle.


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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 5:58:38 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
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On 1/22/2020 7:22 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:46:23 -0500,
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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:39:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :

Even if it does belong to the hauler, it's in society's interest to
repair it. Why throw away 5 pounds of plastic to fill landfill and
never degrade if you can delay that. If the repair won't take too
much time or money, I'd repair it. You can replace it in a few years
when the repair failes.

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.


I did agree with your use of Gorilla tape. It might extend the
lifetime. Container is likely PE which is recyclable.

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will


He's never invited me to his house. I don't think he likes me very
much.


see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck


I don't think they actually use 3 trucks for this, that there's more
than one section in one truck.

OR, something like here, one truck but it instead of taking everything
two times a week, it takes one thing one day anBd the other stuff the
other day.

But some place around here is switching to single stream.


And then more and more that one stream is going into the landfill anyway.
China doesn't want crappy plastic and paper anymore, for it to be
acceptable it has to be very clean and not mixed up. Once you mix
soup cans, tomato sauce jars and paper together, what do you think
you wind up with? We went from several streams that mostly did get
recycled, to one that doesn't.
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On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 8:02:38 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck
and should be picked for recycle at the dump. It is done like that in
many places and in order to recycle you have to have people at the dump
anyway to pick through the recycle.


Paper for recycling has to be clean. If it's got coffee grounds, oil, etc.,
it cannot be recycled.

I doubt they could hire people to wade through disposable diapers, rotting
meat, etc. just to get the useful recyclables separated and cleaned.

We switched some years back to single-stream recycling, so we only need
two cans (and two trucks). One for recycling and one for things headed
to the landfill.

If I am reliably informed, King County, WA, requires compostables to be
disposed of separately. Your carrot peels can't go in with your
diapers.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton


The "recycle" should just be metal. Everything else is trash except
for a few localities close to a place that can use it. Most "recycle"
is too dirty to use anyway and goes to the landfill.
We did paper recycling at IBM way before it was cool and it is amazing
how pure it has to be to have any value at all. Clean white "bond" was
worth 6 cents a pound. Newsprint was 2 cents. Mixed paper was ZERO.
They would reject the whole load if they saw anything else in it.
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Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup.


We switched some years back to single-stream recycling, so we only need
two cans (and two trucks). One for recycling and one for things headed
to the landfill.
Cindy Hamilton


Here we have :
2 wheeled bins ; 1 truck ; every 2 weeks.
No compost pick-up - we're rural and composters are no problem.
All the recycle-bin stuff gets sorted at the big recycling facility.
Homeowners need to take any hazardous waste to the landfill's
collection area on certain specific days.
My only complaint is that they recently excluded some plastics
- not because of recycling value - but for sorting difficulty -
- a better solution should be offered - like having the homeowner
sort/bundle/bag the difficult items.
John T.


The only plastic with real recycle value is type 1 and type 2
(basically bottles). They don't want any of the other stuff.
We are starting to see ads saying they would rather you not recycle at
all than to throw everything you think is recyclable into the bin.
(everything with that "recycle" symbol on it) They also want you to
wash everything out first.

Even then, most of it goes to the landfill anyway because we generate
far more than the companies who manufacture from used plastic can use.
Glass is particularly useless unless it is carefully sorted and you
are near a glass plant. Same with paper.

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On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 9:35:35 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.

Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


5. Get up early, swap it with your neighbor's identical bin. He'll blame the guys on the truck. Problem solved.



Here they have serial numbers, so that's probably not a good idea.


I doubt everyone has their original bin, even if they checked. If the
wind is blowing hard the empty ones get scattered down the street.
People just grab one and the last guy may have to walk a ways to get
one. Mine is easy to spot tho because it has lots of weird paint on
top. I use it for a work surface when I am spraying various little
things.


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On 1/23/2020 8:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 8:02:38 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will
see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck
and should be picked for recycle at the dump. It is done like that in
many places and in order to recycle you have to have people at the dump
anyway to pick through the recycle.


Paper for recycling has to be clean. If it's got coffee grounds, oil, etc.,
it cannot be recycled.

I doubt they could hire people to wade through disposable diapers, rotting
meat, etc. just to get the useful recyclables separated and cleaned.

We switched some years back to single-stream recycling, so we only need
two cans (and two trucks). One for recycling and one for things headed
to the landfill.

If I am reliably informed, King County, WA, requires compostables to be
disposed of separately. Your carrot peels can't go in with your
diapers.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton


True that clean recycle wanted. I think you have to look at the overall
picture in terms of economics including pollution. There is also the
value of the recycle which varies with demand. Paper products are the
lowest value. That's why I think clogging up our driveways with cans
and having multiple trucks for pickup is not as efficient as doing all
the chores at the dump.

While clean recycle is preferred it is not that simple. Take a PET soda
bottle for example. It has a PE cap and a paper label which must be
removed. If the PET is dyed it cannot be used. The bottles must be
chopped up and washed. PE and paper float and are skimmed off. The PET
cannot be used directly and most is probably depolymerized and
repolymerized. Even then the polymer is not as color free as virgin
resin and must be used where color is not observed or a problem.
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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:02:27 -0500, Frank "frank
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On 1/22/2020 7:22 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jan 2020 08:46:23 -0500,
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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:39:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 12:45:28 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi,
I have one of those very large (96 gallon) plastic garbage bins with wheels. It has developed a vertical crack down the front. I've seen several videos on plastic garbage bin repairs, for example:
1. using heat gun to embed metal screen across the crack and into the plastic
2. using soldering gun to melt two sides back together and then add more plastic from a compatible source, usually a zip tie.
3. using a plastic welding gun (requires specialized equipment for the minor amount I need to do)
4. sanding the plastic, overlaying fiberglass mesh, and spackling over the whole thing with 2part epoxy.
Anyone have luck with these or other solutions?
Advice appreciated.
Thank you.
Theodore.


Do you own it or does your garbage hauler own it?
If the latter, call them up and ask for a replacement.
Cindy Hamilton


Yep.
In my district - it appears to belong to the hauler :

Even if it does belong to the hauler, it's in society's interest to
repair it. Why throw away 5 pounds of plastic to fill landfill and
never degrade if you can delay that. If the repair won't take too
much time or money, I'd repair it. You can replace it in a few years
when the repair failes.

https://www.bra.org/resources/supplies/

John T.


I did agree with your use of Gorilla tape. It might extend the
lifetime. Container is likely PE which is recyclable.

Speaking of recycling, I think it is stupid to have multiple cans for
different trash. Look at your friend Adam Schiff's house and you will


He's never invited me to his house. I don't think he likes me very
much.


see three cans. That means 3 different trucks will have to come to his
house for pickup. Trash should go into one can, handled by one truck


I don't think they actually use 3 trucks for this, that there's more
than one section in one truck.

It is 3 trucks here every week. One for horticulture, one for trash
and one for recycle. The recycle trucks have the lift for the 65
gallon tote. (when they are all working)
Otherwise it is all the regular garbage truck with a hopper in back
and a guy hanging on.
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