Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:18:58 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

+1

They take some number of seconds to start up and get up to speed.
It's a generator, not a UPS. If that's the only issue, it's going to be
an expensive service call for nothing. Also these have self-test built-in
and normally run a test cycle once a week. Should have a code or something
set if something is wrong. Newer ones, I would think would have added
the ability to communicate via wifi to let you know too, but IDK, the
one I worked on was from over ten years ago.

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 15:27:44 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:18:58 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

+1

They take some number of seconds to start up and get up to speed.
It's a generator, not a UPS. If that's the only issue, it's going to be
an expensive service call for nothing. Also these have self-test built-in
and normally run a test cycle once a week. Should have a code or something
set if something is wrong. Newer ones, I would think would have added
the ability to communicate via wifi to let you know too, but IDK, the
one I worked on was from over ten years ago.


My Generac is four years old. Just windered.
My bro in Maine (brrr) said his power went out but his TV did not. I
wasn't there! I was just curious.
Thanks
xxxxx

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 17:18:54 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

ok
thanks
xxxxx

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:00:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.


Cud or shud use a UPS on my PC I guess. As it happened, I did lose
some data I had not saved.
Thanks
xxxxx

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 15:27:44 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:18:58 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

+1

They take some number of seconds to start up and get up to speed.
It's a generator, not a UPS. If that's the only issue, it's going to be
an expensive service call for nothing. Also these have self-test built-in
and normally run a test cycle once a week. Should have a code or something
set if something is wrong. Newer ones, I would think would have added
the ability to communicate via wifi to let you know too, but IDK, the
one I worked on was from over ten years ago.


My Generac is four years old. Just windered.
My bro in Maine (brrr) said his power went out but his TV did not.

You should ask him what that means. Was he watching it at the time?
Maybe it went off briefly but then powered itself back up to where it
left off. Or it's on a UPS. Or he has some standby system that's a lot
better than all the other ones out there.


I
wasn't there! I was just curious.
Thanks
xxxxx

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 17:18:54 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

As Clare says, that is perfectly normal. You can avoid it by getting a
small UPS that will hold the power until your generator kicks in. I
have one on my TV and one on each of my "always on" computers .

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:00:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.
Likewize - but for my 50 inch plasma a $40 unit won't cut it - - - -
unless it's one I pick up used for $40 and have to spend another 60 or
more for batteries - - - -

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On 12/3/2019 9:04 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:00:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.
Likewize - but for my 50 inch plasma a $40 unit won't cut it - - - -
unless it's one I pick up used for $40 and have to spend another 60 or
more for batteries - - - -

Works well for the short time the power is out, often just seconds.
enough to screw up the box. I got it not so much for the TV but the
cable box that takes forever to get going again. If it is recording at
the time you'd lose that too.

Really, just think how horrid it would be for the TV to be out 5 or 10
minutes? Devastating, the whole family would become disoriented.

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 21:31:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 9:04 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:00:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.
Likewize - but for my 50 inch plasma a $40 unit won't cut it - - - -
unless it's one I pick up used for $40 and have to spend another 60 or
more for batteries - - - -

Works well for the short time the power is out, often just seconds.
enough to screw up the box. I got it not so much for the TV but the
cable box that takes forever to get going again. If it is recording at
the time you'd lose that too.

Really, just think how horrid it would be for the TV to be out 5 or 10
minutes? Devastating, the whole family would become disoriented.
The battery on my Sola 450 on the downstairs TV just went south so
it's riding bareback at the moment. I've got 2 3KV units inthe garage
but not enough room in the entertainment unit and no 30 amp outlet in
the basement.

UPS'es, was: Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

In Clare Snyder writes:

The battery on my Sola 450 on the downstairs TV just went south so
it's riding bareback at the moment.

For the hell of it, try hooking up a 12V low amperage battery charger
to the bad battery.

UPS'es will often not charge the battery at all if the voltage
has dropped below (something like) 8V.

For that matter, "smart chargers" like the Battery Tender brandname
unit won't, either.

I've found that a good chunk of UPS'es with "dead batteries" will
work [a] if I take out the battery and dumb charge it a bit.

[a] by "work" I mean get a modest amount of run time from them.
Don't count on full cycling...



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Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 21:04:05 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 19:00:05 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/3/2019 5:18 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:15:01 -0500, wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

I don't know if mine is working right or not. I caled local dealer
who said he would come out to take a look. Promised twice - never
showed.

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx
DEFINITELY normal, as the generator can not anticipate the outage and
start before the power goes out, nor can it switch quickly enough to
not reset MANY devices.

Normal, but can be eliminated. I always hated the TV box taking forever
to reboot. I bought a $40 UPS battery unit and plug into that. No more
dropouts when the power goes out for a few seconds.
Likewize - but for my 50 inch plasma a $40 unit won't cut it - - - -
unless it's one I pick up used for $40 and have to spend another 60 or
more for batteries - - - -

You can usually find a UPS with bad batteries for free. That is where
all of mine came from. Shop around on the net for batteries.

UPS'es, was: Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 03:39:34 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
wrote:

In Clare Snyder writes:

The battery on my Sola 450 on the downstairs TV just went south so
it's riding bareback at the moment.

For the hell of it, try hooking up a 12V low amperage battery charger
to the bad battery.
The battery reads 13.8 volts as removed from the UPS. Won't light a
10 watt bulb for 5 minutes - a good battery will light it for 4 or 5
hours. By the way, the battery is AT LEAST 8 years old - - -

UPS'es will often not charge the battery at all if the voltage
has dropped below (something like) 8V.
It's not a problem with taking a charge - it's a problem with
supporting the load. A GOOD UPS does a self-check every once in a
while - and if the battery does not meet spec it alarms.
I've sold (and serviced) hundreds of UPS units from cheap 250 va
standby units to very expensive 3KVA online units for over 25 years.
ANd I have yet to run across a UPS that would not attempt to charge a
dead battery. It might not produce a high enough voltage to force a
charge into a BAD battery - but eventually it WILL recharge a dead
GOOD one

For that matter, "smart chargers" like the Battery Tender brandname
unit won't, either.
Virtually no battery charger with reverse connection protection will
charge a dead battery. I have often used my lab power supply to
"kickstart" dead batteries.

I've found that a good chunk of UPS'es with "dead batteries" will
work [a] if I take out the battery and dumb charge it a bit.

[a] by "work" I mean get a modest amount of run time from them.
Don't count on full cycling...
Don't count on them supporting hald the rated load either.

UPS'es, was: Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

In Clare Snyder writes:

UPS'es will often not charge the battery at all if the voltage
has dropped below (something like) 8V.
It's not a problem with taking a charge - it's a problem with
supporting the load. A GOOD UPS does a self-check every once in a
while - and if the battery does not meet spec it alarms.

I've picked up units that had been pulled out of service,
unplugged from the outlet, but with the batteries still
connected... and put into a closet for the summer (we're
talking schools), which became a couple of years.

I've sold (and serviced) hundreds of UPS units from cheap 250 va
standby units to very expensive 3KVA online units for over 25 years.
ANd I have yet to run across a UPS that would not attempt to charge a
dead battery.

We're bumping into different companies and models. I've certainly
had a few.

Virtually no battery charger with reverse connection protection will
charge a dead battery. I have often used my lab power supply to
"kickstart" dead batteries.

I've got alligator clips on a bnch
of dumb wall warts...


[a] by "work" I mean get a modest amount of run time from them.
Don't count on full cycling...

Don't count on them supporting hald the rated load either.

I've used a bunch of these to keep cable modem and tv
tuner boxen working for those half second glitches
when the electrical utility switches loads on and
off twenty miles away...


--
__________________________________________________ ___
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key

[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 19:07:22 -0500, wrote:

Cud or shud use a UPS on my PC I guess. As it happened, I did lose
some data I had not saved.
Thanks
xxxxx


I use UPS units on:
1) Computer, screen, and Comcast modem
2) DISH Network controller (so possible recording isn't stopped)
3) FM transmitter (broadcasts music from the computer throughout the
house.)
4) Second Dish unit in "tornado shelter" area in basement.

My Generac is set for 30 second delay before it fires up. The UPS's
prevent any losses during that time period.

-dan z-



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Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

In article ,
wrote:

I have a Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator and cannot find the
owner manual. Nor can I find a free web source for same. Anyone know
of one?

Xxxxx-

Do a Google Search for generac 0065512. There appears to be
considerable free information available at the Generac and other web
sites. I assume your 0065512 is the same as a Generac G0065512.

Fred

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On 12/3/19 2:15 PM, wrote:

[snip]

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on. However my TVs had to be restarted manually. Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx

A lot of modern devices with electronics suffer from "power amnesia",
where a power outage leads to devices forgetting they're supposed to be
on. Many TVs have that problem (often smaller ones don't). Computers do,
but many allow normal "power" function with a setup option.

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religion." [Dewey Henize]

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On 12/3/19 6:15 PM, wrote:

[snip]

As Clare says, that is perfectly normal. You can avoid it by getting a
small UPS that will hold the power until your generator kicks in. I
have one on my TV and one on each of my "always on" computers .

I had trouble* with one computer during a recent outage. The other 2
were on UPSes and had no problems. You do need to replace UPS batteries
every few years.

* It was just the power supply, which was a lot easier to replace than
the whole PC.

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21 days until the winter celebration (Wed, Dec 25, 2019 12:00:00 AM for
1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Being unable to reason is not a positive character trait outside
religion." [Dewey Henize]

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On 12/4/2019 11:56 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/3/19 2:15 PM, wrote:

[snip]

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on.Â*Â* However my TVs had to be restarted manually.Â* Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx

A lot of modern devices with electronics suffer from "power amnesia",
where a power outage leads to devices forgetting they're supposed to
be on. Many TVs have that problem (often smaller ones don't).
Computers do, but many allow normal "power" function with a setup option.


Â* There is usually a setting in the BIOS (may not apply to W10
machines) that allows you to choose auto-reboot or not . I set mine all
on no-reboot , out here we can get multiple short outages in a brief time .

--
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Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 2:18:10 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 12/4/2019 11:56 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/3/19 2:15 PM, wrote:

[snip]

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on.Â*Â* However my TVs had to be restarted manually.Â* Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx

A lot of modern devices with electronics suffer from "power amnesia",
where a power outage leads to devices forgetting they're supposed to
be on. Many TVs have that problem (often smaller ones don't).
Computers do, but many allow normal "power" function with a setup option.

Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 12:07:01 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 2:18:10 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 12/4/2019 11:56 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/3/19 2:15 PM, wrote:

[snip]

I suffered a brief outage recently - the lights blinked then came back
on.Â*Â* However my TVs had to be restarted manually.Â* Same for my PC.
Would this be normal?

Thanks
xxxxx

A lot of modern devices with electronics suffer from "power amnesia",
where a power outage leads to devices forgetting they're supposed to
be on. Many TVs have that problem (often smaller ones don't).
Computers do, but many allow normal "power" function with a setup option.


Â* There is usually a setting in the BIOS (may not apply to W10
machines) that allows you to choose auto-reboot or not . I set mine all
on no-reboot , out here we can get multiple short outages in a brief time .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

Interesting, I never knew there was a setting, but it;s a good idea and
makes sense. For a typical PC I would not want it to reboot. If it's
an office PC that has to be used often or one for some dedicated application,
then having it power back up could make sense. I can't say I've paid close
attention, but if I had to guess, I think the ones here have been set to
stay off.

It is in the BIOS power settings and the OS is irrelevant. It is
really just whether the machine powers back on after a power failure
or stays off until you manually power it back on. It may just revert
to the state it was in when you lost power. Back before that was an
option I used to use a 12v relay with the N/C point going to the power
button. It will hold the power on line active until the 12v supply
comes up. All of my media and MP3 players come up after a power
failure.

My MP3 players always came up and down with the power even my current
W/7 machines and other than that nag screen, they seem fine with it.
In XP/W95-8 you could turn the nagger off. I haven't found it in 7 but
I am sure it is there somewhere.

UPS'es, was: Generac Model 0065512 Standby Generator
 

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 06:33:39 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
wrote:

In Clare Snyder writes:

UPS'es will often not charge the battery at all if the voltage
has dropped below (something like) 8V.
It's not a problem with taking a charge - it's a problem with
supporting the load. A GOOD UPS does a self-check every once in a
while - and if the battery does not meet spec it alarms.

I've picked up units that had been pulled out of service,
unplugged from the outlet, but with the batteries still
connected... and put into a closet for the summer (we're
talking schools), which became a couple of years.

I've sold (and serviced) hundreds of UPS units from cheap 250 va
standby units to very expensive 3KVA online units for over 25 years.
ANd I have yet to run across a UPS that would not attempt to charge a
dead battery.

We're bumping into different companies and models. I've certainly
had a few.

I've sold Best/ Powerware/ Exide as well as APC (stands for A Piece
of Crap) and SOLA as well as half a dozen or more manufacturers I
can'r remember. Never had one that would not charge a dead good
battery.

Virtually no battery charger with reverse connection protection will
charge a dead battery. I have often used my lab power supply to
"kickstart" dead batteries.

I've got alligator clips on a bnch
of dumb wall warts...


[a] by "work" I mean get a modest amount of run time from them.
Don't count on full cycling...

Don't count on them supporting hald the rated load either.

I've used a bunch of these to keep cable modem and tv
tuner boxen working for those half second glitches
when the electrical utility switches loads on and
off twenty miles away...