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KW[_3_] September 19th 19 04:44 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
I have a Maytag gas range Model # MGR5875QDS and after every power outage in
my area the display on the control panel is blank. It does not matter which
button your press on the control panel nothing works but the igniters for the
range top burners work so there is power to the range. After about 4 to 5
hours the display starts to work and the range is fully functional again. Is
there a thermal fuse that needs to be reset or is faulty or is the control
panel faulty and needs to be replaced? Thank you in advance for any input.

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trader_4 September 19th 19 05:08 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 11:44:05 AM UTC-4, KW wrote:
I have a Maytag gas range Model # MGR5875QDS and after every power outage in
my area the display on the control panel is blank. It does not matter which
button your press on the control panel nothing works but the igniters for the
range top burners work so there is power to the range. After about 4 to 5
hours the display starts to work and the range is fully functional again. Is
there a thermal fuse that needs to be reset or is faulty or is the control
panel faulty and needs to be replaced? Thank you in advance for any input.

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IDK, that's a very weird one. Only thing I can think of is that it has
some defect in the reset circuit on the control board. They might have
some RC circuit that holds the chip in reset for a period of time after
power first comes up. You don't want digital logic to start running
when power has only come up to 50%, 70%, etc. So you hold it off from
starting with a reset circuit for
some number of milliseconds. If they are using a capacitor, it's
possible it's aged and failing, but still you'd think it would charge up
in a few seconds, not hours.

But I can tell you this, unless you want to spend a lot of $$$ for a
new control board, and/or your power goes out frequently, might as
well just put up with. From what I've heard, it sounds like maybe
the oven wouldn't be usable for a few hours, but otherwise the burners
work. You can find the cost of a new control board online. If you
can DIY, that would hold down the cost. Note I'm assuming it's the
control board, it's logical that's where the problem is, but without
seeing a schematic and/or testing, that's just the likely culprit.




Bob G September 19th 19 05:14 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it. I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it into if
you get frequent outages.

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Wade Gattett September 19th 19 05:46 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.Â* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it into if
you get frequent outages.


You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)

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Ed Pawlowski[_3_] September 19th 19 06:19 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.Â* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.


You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss.

trader_4 September 19th 19 06:57 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 1:19:06 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.Â* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.


You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss.


It's a possible solution, you and the other poster are right, a
gas stove doesn't take much power, it's 120V. My only concern
would be where do you locate the UPS at the stove and how hot it
gets when the oven is in use. Me, I'd probably just put up with it.


danny burstein September 19th 19 07:16 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
In Ed Pawlowski writes:

On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.Â* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.


You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss


don't be so sure about the "don't take much power" (lectricity).

It's pretty common for the gas range tops to use
a spark ignior that shuts off once you've started
and then adjusted the flame, but...

.... but, many gas stoves use an electric glow/heat plate
which is on _the entire time_ the oven gas is cycled
on [a]. And these can pull hundreds of watts. Steadily.

[a] most gas ovens, to my surprise when I first discovered
this decades ago, are "fully on/fully off" [b] and
the thermostat controls the cycle duration.

[b] the older, non-electric-ignition ones, might
keep a small pilot light running the whole time
you're using it.






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Frank[_24_] September 19th 19 08:15 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On 9/19/2019 2:16 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In Ed Pawlowski writes:

On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.ÂÂ* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.

You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss


don't be so sure about the "don't take much power" (lectricity).

It's pretty common for the gas range tops to use
a spark ignior that shuts off once you've started
and then adjusted the flame, but...

... but, many gas stoves use an electric glow/heat plate
which is on _the entire time_ the oven gas is cycled
on [a]. And these can pull hundreds of watts. Steadily.

[a] most gas ovens, to my surprise when I first discovered
this decades ago, are "fully on/fully off" [b] and
the thermostat controls the cycle duration.

[b] the older, non-electric-ignition ones, might
keep a small pilot light running the whole time
you're using it.


We had to get rid of a seven year old Maytag electric range a while back
because of the panel and oven temperature sensor. PITA and now I see
they put them on gas ranges.


Ed Pawlowski[_3_] September 19th 19 08:45 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On 9/19/2019 2:16 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In Ed Pawlowski writes:

On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.ÂÂ* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.

You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss


don't be so sure about the "don't take much power" (lectricity).

It's pretty common for the gas range tops to use
a spark ignior that shuts off once you've started
and then adjusted the flame, but...

... but, many gas stoves use an electric glow/heat plate
which is on _the entire time_ the oven gas is cycled
on [a]. And these can pull hundreds of watts. Steadily.


Just checked the nameplate on my range. 5 amps.

As for placement, my last stove had space in the back if you had it on
the floor. You could put it in the cabinet next to the stove too.
Ideal would be to find the reason it takes four hours, of course, but a
$40 UPS is cheaper than a $400 circuit board.

trader_4 September 19th 19 09:23 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 3:45:46 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/19/2019 2:16 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In Ed Pawlowski writes:

On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.ÂÂ* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.

You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss


don't be so sure about the "don't take much power" (lectricity).

It's pretty common for the gas range tops to use
a spark ignior that shuts off once you've started
and then adjusted the flame, but...

... but, many gas stoves use an electric glow/heat plate
which is on _the entire time_ the oven gas is cycled
on [a]. And these can pull hundreds of watts. Steadily.


Just checked the nameplate on my range. 5 amps.


And that's assuming it's on and I'd bet the actual is quite a bit less.
When not on, it's probably an order of magnitude less.
If the OP used one, the stove could likely go for a long time
on a modest UPS if it was not used. And if used for 10 minutes to
heat up something, it pulls max 600W for that period.



As for placement, my last stove had space in the back if you had it on
the floor. You could put it in the cabinet next to the stove too.
Ideal would be to find the reason it takes four hours, of course, but a
$40 UPS is cheaper than a $400 circuit board.


Agree

But I don't see the problem worth fixing. The igniters work as soon as
the power comes back on. That means at least the burners work, not
sure about the oven. I could live with that, at least here the power
doesn't go out enough that it's a big deal.


[email protected] September 19th 19 11:01 PM

Maytag gas range problem
 
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 13:23:40 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 3:45:46 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/19/2019 2:16 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In Ed Pawlowski writes:

On 9/19/2019 12:46 PM, Wade Gattett wrote:
On 9/19/19 12:14 PM, Bob G wrote:
replying to KW, Bob G wrote:
No idea how to fix it.ÂÂ* I'd consider getting a cheap UPS to plug it
into if
you get frequent outages.

You should have hit SEND right after your first sentence ;-)


If there is space to put one, it may actually work. Gas ranges don't
take much power. We get an occasional 5 second blip and the clock has
to be reset. If the oven was out of use for four hours and you have a
half baked cake, it would be a loss

don't be so sure about the "don't take much power" (lectricity).

It's pretty common for the gas range tops to use
a spark ignior that shuts off once you've started
and then adjusted the flame, but...

... but, many gas stoves use an electric glow/heat plate
which is on _the entire time_ the oven gas is cycled
on [a]. And these can pull hundreds of watts. Steadily.


Just checked the nameplate on my range. 5 amps.


And that's assuming it's on and I'd bet the actual is quite a bit less.
When not on, it's probably an order of magnitude less.
If the OP used one, the stove could likely go for a long time
on a modest UPS if it was not used. And if used for 10 minutes to
heat up something, it pulls max 600W for that period.



As for placement, my last stove had space in the back if you had it on
the floor. You could put it in the cabinet next to the stove too.
Ideal would be to find the reason it takes four hours, of course, but a
$40 UPS is cheaper than a $400 circuit board.


Agree

But I don't see the problem worth fixing. The igniters work as soon as
the power comes back on. That means at least the burners work, not
sure about the oven. I could live with that, at least here the power
doesn't go out enough that it's a big deal.


The boards in Maytag ranges have a pretty bad reputation so I am not
shocked it is bad. My FIL's electric does the same thing but I am not
sure about how many hours it is. I just know it takes a while before
it comes back to life.


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