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A Reprimand For Comey That Doesn't Vindicate Trump (Opinion)
CNN - Thursday, August 29, 2019
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A Reprimand For Comey That Doesn't Vindicate Trump (Opinion)
CNN - Thursday, August 29, 2019
-- https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/29/opini...nig/index.html


Have you been sleeping for 3 days?
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A Reprimand For Comey That Doesn't Vindicate Trump (Opinion)


The theory I've heard is that they'd never find a jury in DC that would
convict Comey, even though what he did certainly rises to the level of
criminal conduct.

It's not just his leaking stuff through an academic back in 2017.
There's far more serious stuff related to the Trump FISA / wiretap stuff
during 2016.

There's also the decision not to charge Hillary for the purposefull
redirection of gov't business and classified communications through an
unsecure "personal" mail server.

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07/31/19

But Comey and others inside the FBI and the DOJ during his tenure still
face legal jeopardy in ongoing probes by the IG and Barr-appointed
special prosecutor John Durham. The worst is still to come for Jim
Comey James Comey's next reckoning is imminent — this time for leaking
House Republicans claim victory after Mueller hearings. Those
investigations are focused on the origins of the Russia investigation
that included a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant
targeting the Trump campaign at the end of the 2016 election, the source
said.

“There are significant issues emerging with how the FISA was handled and
other conduct in the investigation, and everyone involved remains under
scrutiny,” a second source said.

The IG concluded in prior investigations that Comey’s firing was not
driven by Trump’s fears about the Russia investigation ruining his
presidency but, rather, by DOJ concerns about Comey’s performance in the
Hillary Clinton email probe. Horowitz concluded that Comey wrongly
“usurped” the authority of the attorney general when, on July 5, 2016,
he announced he would not seek criminal charges against Clinton for
transmitting classified information — some of it top secret — on her
insecure private email server.

That IG report also chided Comey for criticizing Clinton’s email
practices as reckless without filing charges and for improperly
announcing the reopening of the email probe in late October 2016, just a
few weeks before Election Day when Clinton and Trump were locked in a
tight race.

Ironically, Comey’s decision not to charge Clinton for violating the
Espionage Act for mishandling classified information on her email server
mirrors the same rationale that Barr’s DOJ applied in declining
prosecution of him: a lack of evidence of intent.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...me-for-leaking

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When you are the secretary of state, and you set up an information
side-channel, you do so to avoid scrutiny and the formal documentary
process that all gov't communications must go through. These
communications are the property of the US gov't and it's people and it's
press. The evidence of intent - to avoid these communications from
becoming public at a future date, is clear.


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2017-06-09

Jail Time? While No One Noticed, James Comey Broke An Obscure Law
Yesterday


Former FBI Director James Comey is a liar. He finally admitted that he
leaked information on President Trump to the media.

Not only did he leak classified information, he also violated the law.
Comey violated Nondisclosure Agreements. Under federal law that means
jail time.

President Trump’s personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz told reporters:

“Although Mr. Comey testified he only leaked the memos in response
to a tweet, the public record reveals that the New York Times was
quoting from these memos the day before the referenced tweet, which
belies Mr. Comey’s excuse for this unauthorized disclosure of privileged
information and appears to entirely retaliatory,” Kasowitz said.

Leaking this information is a blatant violation of federal statute.

Comey created memos on a federal government computer. Confidential. He
then leaked said confidential memos and broke Nondisclosures. Illegal.

That is some hot water he has got himself into, as well as possible jail
time:

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley stated on
his website that although the memos were created by Comey, the former
FBI director would likely have to follow federal non-disclosure laws of
classified and unclassified information.

Turley writes, “Besides being subject to Nondisclosure Agreements,
Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified
and non-classified information. Assuming that the memos were not
classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on
the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641 which makes it a crime
to steal, sell, or convey ‘any record, voucher, money, or thing of value
of the United States or of any department or agency thereof.’”

https://dcstatesman.com/jail-time-no...law-yesterday/
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And very likely Trump never being charged for his obstruction of
justice too, following the same lines of reasoning.


What "justice" did Trump obstruct?

What actual crime, a crime requiring a "judicial" response, happened
such that Trump obstructed it?


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On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 5:15:18 PM UTC-4, Home Guy wrote:
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And very likely Trump never being charged for his obstruction of
justice too, following the same lines of reasoning.


What "justice" did Trump obstruct?

What actual crime, a crime requiring a "judicial" response, happened
such that Trump obstructed it?



Geez, do I have to answer that?

He told the WH attorney to fire Comey.

He called the RUSSIANS in, the Russian ambassador and foreign
minister and told them that he fired Comey, so now the pressure is off.

He vilified our intel community that had it right, he sided with Putin
and Russia over America

He still refuses to acknowledge that Russia meddled in the election.

He constantly attacked the investigation that got to the truth.


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What "justice" did Trump obstruct?

What actual crime, a crime requiring a "judicial" response, happened
such that Trump obstructed it?


Geez, do I have to answer that?

He told the WH attorney to fire Comey.


Comey performed, at minimum, professional misconduct, and at most he
disclosed classified information which could be feloneous. He
overstepped his bounds by giving Hillary a "get out of prosecution"
card.

He called the RUSSIANS in, the Russian ambassador and foreign
minister and told them that he fired Comey, so now the pressure is off.


This sounds like bragging. I'm not aware of the specifics of that
claim, but when there is no crime, it amounts to political interference
to keep "investigating" it.

He vilified our intel community that had it right, he sided with Putin
and Russia over America


There is a group of intel people that say that the theft of DNC emails
was an inside job. But you'd rather trust the same machinery that told
us about Iraq's WMD's.

Trump was being rail-roaded over this russia thing and you're absolutely
blind to not see this.

You could do worse in this world than to have Russia as an ally instead
of a make-believe enemy.

Russia is a partner with US in the international space station. Russia
is a partner with the US and 30 other countries in the multi-billion
dollar ITER Tokamak project. Get over it. Communism is dead in Russia
and Russia is not the enemy that your precious MIC wants you to believe.

He still refuses to acknowledge that Russia meddled in the election.


You still refuse to believe that Russia did no such thing. Hillary was
a bad candidate and a criminal and not fit to be president. It was a
complete load of horse **** that was invented during 2017 with the help
of leftist google, fecebook and twitter to concoct this so-called
interference, examples of which are still hard to come by and were NEVER
reported or talked about DURING THE ELECTION.

And of course I could also say that the US, time and time again, has
done more than just "interfere" with the internal affairs of other
countries, so even on that score I could say that all's fair in love and
war (or - what's good for the goose is good for the gander). If your
fragile democracy can't withstand a few thousand dollars worth of rogue,
obscure social-media spending, then your country deserves to fail.

So one way or the other (there was no russia election meddling, or if
there was it was far, far too obscure to have any effect) you need to
get over that. And Russia didn't hack the DNC servers - it was an
inside job. When you look at how Hillary handled her own illegal email
side-channel, you have all the evidence you need that democrats don't
know **** about IT and their proxies like Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike are
full of ****. Why did they not let the FBI examine their servers? I
can't believe you can't see through all that crap.

He constantly attacked the investigation that got to the truth.


When you're charged with a crime, it's no crime to NOT help the
prosecution.

When there was no crime to begin with, there was never any justice to
obstruct.
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On 9/2/2019 3:27 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 5:15:18 PM UTC-4, Home Guy wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

And very likely Trump never being charged for his obstruction of
justice too, following the same lines of reasoning.


What "justice" did Trump obstruct?

What actual crime, a crime requiring a "judicial" response, happened
such that Trump obstructed it?



Geez, do I have to answer that?

He told the WH attorney to fire Comey.

He called the RUSSIANS in, the Russian ambassador and foreign
minister and told them that he fired Comey, so now the pressure is off.

He vilified our intel community that had it right, he sided with Putin
and Russia over America

He still refuses to acknowledge that Russia meddled in the election.

He constantly attacked the investigation that got to the truth.



Besides which, obstruction of justice has no requirement that any crime
was committed.

"a defendant can be convicted of obstruction of justice by obstructing a
pending proceeding before Congress or a federal administrative agency. A
pending proceeding could include an informal investigation by an
executive agency."
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 20:27:15 -0700, Bob F wrote:

On 9/2/2019 3:27 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 5:15:18 PM UTC-4, Home Guy wrote:
trader_4 wrote:

And very likely Trump never being charged for his obstruction of
justice too, following the same lines of reasoning.

What "justice" did Trump obstruct?

What actual crime, a crime requiring a "judicial" response, happened
such that Trump obstructed it?



Geez, do I have to answer that?

He told the WH attorney to fire Comey.

He called the RUSSIANS in, the Russian ambassador and foreign
minister and told them that he fired Comey, so now the pressure is off.

He vilified our intel community that had it right, he sided with Putin
and Russia over America

He still refuses to acknowledge that Russia meddled in the election.

He constantly attacked the investigation that got to the truth.



Besides which, obstruction of justice has no requirement that any crime
was committed.

"a defendant can be convicted of obstruction of justice by obstructing a
pending proceeding before Congress or a federal administrative agency. A
pending proceeding could include an informal investigation by an
executive agency."


But if they are persecuting you and no crime was committed isn't that
obstruction of injustice? ;-)

It is sort of like resisting an illegal arrest.
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