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Get car checked out by mechanic before buying it
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 12:01:41 +1000, Xeno
wrote: On 30/8/19 7:46 am, Clare Snyder wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 06:16:34 -0400, Brock O'Bama wrote: On 8/28/19 10:41 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 06:08:26 -0400, Brock O'Bama wrote: On 8/27/19 4:51 PM, micky wrote: On the Pipple's court, she's always insisting that people should get used cars checked out by a mechanic before they buy it. I think she says it costs 50 or 100 dollars. A good mechanic (or lemon law attorney) can steer you away from Ford's loser cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdZhljNSTVg Or GM's or Nissan's, or Mitsubishi's - or FCA's I've had more goodfords than bad ones - and more good Chryslers than bad ones - and more bad GMs than good ones. After 2 I quit. When you have to pay thousands to repair water pump damage, most reasonably intelligent people realize Ford fscked up. Even the cost to proactively replace one of Ford's internal pumps is shameful. Had to replace the pump on the Mystique. I had heard they often shattered at high RPM, so I took it up to about 6000RPM - and sure enough, it went. Figured I would have it fail on MY terms. Put in an aftermarket replacement with a metal impeller instead of Ford's plastic one. Yeah, not a fan of plastic impellers on water pumps. Still have memories of those Chrysler ones that used to spin free on the pump shaft. They looked like they were Ok but they just didn't pump water. They even had METAL ones that did that on some slant sixes. They were intermittent - one day they pumped just fine. Next day they overheated. Get them into the shop and they worked fine - often just had to ASS U ME the pump was bad when nothing else checked out bad - - - On the DuraTec they shattered and it became pretty obvious. I hit the 6000 RPM or whatever ONCE - and within a minute the temp guage started climbing - - - Then I KNEW it still had the original pump - - - - . That little 2.5L V6 would SCREAM!!!! |
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On 08/29/2019 08:01 PM, Xeno wrote:
Yeah, not a fan of plastic impellers on water pumps. Still have memories of those Chrysler ones that used to spin free on the pump shaft. They looked like they were Ok but they just didn't pump water. Been there, done that. Weirdest thing I ran into was on a '59 Buick 225. The pulley with the timing marks had an elastomer coupling to the actual driven hub, supposedly for vibration dampening. Throw a timing light on and rev the engine to see the advance and the pulley would rotate relative to the crank. Go back to idle and the mark would be way off. |
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On 30/8/19 2:41 pm, rbowman wrote:
On 08/29/2019 08:01 PM, Xeno wrote: Yeah, not a fan of plastic impellers on water pumps. Still have memories of those Chrysler ones that used to spin free on the pump shaft. They looked like they were Ok but they just didn't pump water. Been there, done that. Weirdest thing I ran into was on a '59 Buick 225. The pulley with the timing marks had an elastomer coupling to the actual driven hub, supposedly for vibration dampening. Throw a timing light on and rev the engine to see the advance and the pulley would rotate relative to the crank. Go back to idle and the mark would be way off. That was common here on some GM products too, usually triggered by a leaking timing cover seal that allowed oil onto the harmonic damper which, in turn, rotted it out. -- Xeno Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing. (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson) |
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Get car checked out by mechanic before buying it
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:44 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:02:52 -0500, SNAG wrote: On 8/28/2019 8:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 4:16:16 AM UTC-4, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:53:49 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:27:52 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:07 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: ** Or you can do your own inspection . I mean how hard is it to : Check the tires for abnormal wear - worn ad one side/center only/edges . Cupping . Look under the car for obvious oil/fluid leaks . They leave a mess or a clean area . Look under the hood for obvious leaks/problems . A bundle of wired that looks melted ... Look the interior over . A car with 20,000 miles is NOT going to have the brake pedal rubber worn smooth . ** If a cursory exam makes you question , then call your mechanic . Since I'm my own mechanic , I do a much more in depth examination . I've never bought a lemon , though I have gotten a couple I should have passed on . Ever priced lug nuts/bolts for a Peugeot ? Be sittin' down . Easy for you.* Do you think a bookkeeper or kindergarten teacher knows how to check how much is left on brake pads or if a weld on a replaced fender was done sloppily? * Ed , that's why I suggested some of the easily detected signs of a problem . If there's a puddle of oil under the tranny ... It might be a $5 fix - and the perfectly dry one might be a $3000 fix. When there is a warranty on the engine, like from a used car dealer, is that supposed to cover oil pan gasket leaks? Read the warranty? Is it a used late model BMW from a dealer, a used car from a used car lot with a national warranty, or a used car from a used car lot where they issue the warranty and do the work? An oil pan gasket can be an expensive repair. The gasket isn't expensive, but some cars accessing it is a disaster and you have to partially lift the engine up. (As is often the case on that show, the stories are not compatible with each other. Supposedly they had a 2-day warranty and the mechanic they took it to on the 2nd day said so many things were bad he couldn't write them all down but even when she called h im on the phone, the only things that were mentioned was oil and antifreeze dripping and the gas tank held up by a bungee cord. Isn't replacing the metal strap that holds it up a cheap repair? I've never seen a gas tank held on by a metal strap. Typically they are shielded, up out of harms way. And if it's falling out, held on by a bungee cord, there is likely a lot more wrong than just a strap, like everything is shot from rust. Haven't been under many old Chevy's have you ? My '86 GMC p/u has metal bands to hold up the tank . Just about every car out there that mounts the tank underneath has them too in my experience . -- Snag Wow, of course most cars use metal straps. Trader has to get over his compulsive desire to disagree with me. If he'd apologize for claiming I put my party ahead of my country and if he'd stop complaining about the same things over and over, matters of personal preference and not matters of propriety like he seems to think, I'd even start reading his posts again. The VAST majority of cars and trucks have the tank supported by metal straps - and I've replaced hundreds of them - on cars with very little to no rust otherwize. Interesting. The straps rust out before the rest of the car. I guess something has to rust out first and at least they're not hard to replace. Even on cars with rotationally molded poly (plastic) tanks with sheilds on them. I'm trying to picture that. |
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:57:22 -0400, micky
wrote: The VAST majority of cars and trucks have the tank supported by metal straps - and I've replaced hundreds of them - on cars with very little to no rust otherwize. Interesting. The straps rust out before the rest of the car. I guess something has to rust out first and at least they're not hard to replace. At least not before the fire caused if it drags along the interstate. |
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On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 7:57:25 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:44 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:02:52 -0500, SNAG wrote: On 8/28/2019 8:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 4:16:16 AM UTC-4, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:53:49 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:27:52 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:07 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Â*Â* Or you can do your own inspection . I mean how hard is it to : Check the tires for abnormal wear - worn ad one side/center only/edges . Cupping . Look under the car for obvious oil/fluid leaks . They leave a mess or a clean area . Look under the hood for obvious leaks/problems . A bundle of wired that looks melted ... Look the interior over . A car with 20,000 miles is NOT going to have the brake pedal rubber worn smooth . Â*Â* If a cursory exam makes you question , then call your mechanic . Since I'm my own mechanic , I do a much more in depth examination . |
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On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 19:57:22 -0400, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:44 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 08:02:52 -0500, SNAG wrote: On 8/28/2019 8:50 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 4:16:16 AM UTC-4, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 27 Aug 2019 21:53:49 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:27:52 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 8/27/2019 6:07 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: ** Or you can do your own inspection . I mean how hard is it to : Check the tires for abnormal wear - worn ad one side/center only/edges . Cupping . Look under the car for obvious oil/fluid leaks . They leave a mess or a clean area . Look under the hood for obvious leaks/problems . A bundle of wired that looks melted ... Look the interior over . A car with 20,000 miles is NOT going to have the brake pedal rubber worn smooth . ** If a cursory exam makes you question , then call your mechanic . Since I'm my own mechanic , I do a much more in depth examination . I've never bought a lemon , though I have gotten a couple I should have passed on . Ever priced lug nuts/bolts for a Peugeot ? Be sittin' down . Easy for you.* Do you think a bookkeeper or kindergarten teacher knows how to check how much is left on brake pads or if a weld on a replaced fender was done sloppily? * Ed , that's why I suggested some of the easily detected signs of a problem . If there's a puddle of oil under the tranny ... It might be a $5 fix - and the perfectly dry one might be a $3000 fix. When there is a warranty on the engine, like from a used car dealer, is that supposed to cover oil pan gasket leaks? Read the warranty? Is it a used late model BMW from a dealer, a used car from a used car lot with a national warranty, or a used car from a used car lot where they issue the warranty and do the work? An oil pan gasket can be an expensive repair. The gasket isn't expensive, but some cars accessing it is a disaster and you have to partially lift the engine up. (As is often the case on that show, the stories are not compatible with each other. Supposedly they had a 2-day warranty and the mechanic they took it to on the 2nd day said so many things were bad he couldn't write them all down but even when she called h im on the phone, the only things that were mentioned was oil and antifreeze dripping and the gas tank held up by a bungee cord. Isn't replacing the metal strap that holds it up a cheap repair? I've never seen a gas tank held on by a metal strap. Typically they are shielded, up out of harms way. And if it's falling out, held on by a bungee cord, there is likely a lot more wrong than just a strap, like everything is shot from rust. Haven't been under many old Chevy's have you ? My '86 GMC p/u has metal bands to hold up the tank . Just about every car out there that mounts the tank underneath has them too in my experience . -- Snag Wow, of course most cars use metal straps. Trader has to get over his compulsive desire to disagree with me. If he'd apologize for claiming I put my party ahead of my country and if he'd stop complaining about the same things over and over, matters of personal preference and not matters of propriety like he seems to think, I'd even start reading his posts again. The VAST majority of cars and trucks have the tank supported by metal straps - and I've replaced hundreds of them - on cars with very little to no rust otherwize. Interesting. The straps rust out before the rest of the car. I guess something has to rust out first and at least they're not hard to replace. Even on cars with rotationally molded poly (plastic) tanks with sheilds on them. I'm trying to picture that. "plastic" fuel tanks held on with metal straps with plastic "stone sheilds" or "aemour" to protect them. The "armour" holds dirt which stays damp and rors the straps. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 23:01:12 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: The VAST majority of cars and trucks have the tank supported by metal straps - and I've replaced hundreds of them - on cars with very little to no rust otherwize. Interesting. The straps rust out before the rest of the car. I guess something has to rust out first and at least they're not hard to replace. Even on cars with rotationally molded poly (plastic) tanks with sheilds on them. I'm trying to picture that. "plastic" fuel tanks held on with metal straps with plastic "stone sheilds" or "aemour" to protect them. The "armour" holds dirt which stays damp and rors the straps. Aha. Thanks. |
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