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The last hope for America
On 8/13/2019 10:07 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
Peter Jason wrote: On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 20:08:37 -0500, Unlisted wrote: Oh fer Chrissake!! When will the USAians LEARN? Why not licence the guns? Every gun-nut in the USA made to pay a stiff annual gun-licence fee to finance almost everything else. Fine with me. The gun nuts will scream and stomp and threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue. Remember, the NRA leaned on congresscritters to the extent that federal agencies scan't even collect statistics on gun violence. That's how totally clse-minded they are. They do this for motor cars and other things besides. For guns why not a sliding scale where the fee increases per gun for each owned. And fingerprint and photograph the owners. True. There's not even a requirement that a gun owner demonstrate that he knows how to use (SAFELY use) the thing. I wonder who many of those who are talking against guns and want gun control,; have ever tried to buy a licensed gun, and gone through the current back ground checks required for gun owner ship. Odds are they only know what the media has told them. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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That goes with the following in the US:
For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day. How is that registration and licensing working out with the cars and trucks? By the way, the whole thread is off topic. |
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wrote in message ... That goes with the following in the US: For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day. I don’t believe that almost all motor vehicle crashes killed someone. How is that registration and licensing working out with the cars and trucks? By the way, the whole thread is off topic. |
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On 08/13/2019 09:29 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says... And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene Yes, but most were not by accdent. With proper training in the use of firearms many more would probably be killed instead of wounded. I bet most were gang and drug related. Murders by guns was only about 8 to 10 thousand a year. Many suicides by handguns that should not be counted. Too many other ways to do that. The interesting spin by the anti-gun crowd is guns are too effective as a suicide tool. Better the person should use some other less reliable method, fail, and have time to reflect. If they are not brain dead, maimed, or otherwise seriously screwed up. A nightmare for someone jumping off a bridge would to wake up a quadriplegic with no way out except time instead of the desired outcome. Of course a seasoned warrior like Bo Gritz managed to miss killing himself with a .45 while sitting in his pickup so there is still hope for incompetence. |
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-08-13 5:56 p.m., Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... They do this for motor cars and other things besides. For guns why not a sliding scale where the fee increases per gun for each owned. And fingerprint and photograph the owners. True. There's not even a requirement that a gun owner demonstrate that he knows how to use (SAFELY use) the thing. I wonder who many of those who are talking against guns and want gun control,; have ever tried to buy a licensed gun, and gone through the current back ground checks required for gun owner ship. Odds are they only know what the media has told them. There is a requirement to take a driver's test and a renewal every few years, but look at all the accidents and around 30,000 killed each year by cars. It is true that while a background check is often required (or in some states a concealed weapon permit), there is no check for being able to even know which end of the gun to point at someone. Probably no where as meany deaths by accident. And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene I like graph #6 and graph #7 here. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts Paul |
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"rbowman" wrote in message ... On 08/13/2019 09:29 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene Yes, but most were not by accdent. With proper training in the use of firearms many more would probably be killed instead of wounded. I bet most were gang and drug related. Murders by guns was only about 8 to 10 thousand a year. Many suicides by handguns that should not be counted. Too many other ways to do that. The interesting spin by the anti-gun crowd is guns are too effective as a suicide tool. Better the person should use some other less reliable method, fail, and have time to reflect. If they are not brain dead, maimed, or otherwise seriously screwed up. Rather silly given how reliable hanging yourself is. A nightmare for someone jumping off a bridge would to wake up a quadriplegic with no way out except time instead of the desired outcome. I actually know someone who did that with a road bridge, deliberately jumped in front of a truck and ended up with very expensive and a real fluke of a repair to his leg that was almost ****ed. He hasn’t actually tried doing it again because that medical catastrophe fixed the medical problem that caused him to try killing himself. A weird balance problem. Of course a seasoned warrior like Bo Gritz managed to miss killing himself with a .45 while sitting in his pickup so there is still hope for incompetence. |
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"Paul" wrote in message ... Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-08-13 5:56 p.m., Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... They do this for motor cars and other things besides. For guns why not a sliding scale where the fee increases per gun for each owned. And fingerprint and photograph the owners. True. There's not even a requirement that a gun owner demonstrate that he knows how to use (SAFELY use) the thing. I wonder who many of those who are talking against guns and want gun control,; have ever tried to buy a licensed gun, and gone through the current back ground checks required for gun owner ship. Odds are they only know what the media has told them. There is a requirement to take a driver's test and a renewal every few years, but look at all the accidents and around 30,000 killed each year by cars. It is true that while a background check is often required (or in some states a concealed weapon permit), there is no check for being able to even know which end of the gun to point at someone. Probably no where as meany deaths by accident. And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene I like graph #6 and graph #7 here. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts Hardly a shocking revelation that countrys with more guns have more gun deaths. Some suspicious omissions tho, particularly the USA and Israel. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:45:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day. I don¢t believe that almost all motor vehicle crashes killed someone. Obviously many crashes killed several people, senile trolling asshole from Oz! -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:02:43 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: The interesting spin by the anti-gun crowd is guns are too effective as a suicide tool. Better the person should use some other less reliable method, fail, and have time to reflect. If they are not brain dead, maimed, or otherwise seriously screwed up. Rather silly given how reliable hanging yourself is. Do you have the data on this, or is this just more of your known senile idiotic troll****, you self-opinionated senile asshole troll! -- pamela about Rot Speed: "His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:08:58 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I like graph #6 and graph #7 here. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts Hardly a shocking revelation that countrys with more guns have more gun deaths. Certainly not true of Switzerland, you demented, senile, "all-knowing" senile trolling asshole from Oz! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:45:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message ... That goes with the following in the US: For 2016 specifically, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) data shows 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 motor vehicle crashes, an average of 102 per day. I don’t believe that almost all motor vehicle crashes killed someone. I would take that to mean that the 37,461 people were killed in 34,436 crashes. It doesn't mean that there were only 34,436 crashes. How is that registration and licensing working out with the cars and trucks? By the way, the whole thread is off topic. -- Eric Stevens There are two classes of people. Those who divide people into two classes and those who don't. I belong to the second class. |
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The last hope for America
On 8/14/2019 12:38 AM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-08-13 5:56 p.m., Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... They do this for motor cars and other things besides. For guns why not a sliding scale where the fee increases per gun for eachÂ* owned.Â*Â* And fingerprint and photograph the owners. True. There's not even a requirement that a gun owner demonstrate that he knows how to use (SAFELY use) the thing. I wonder who many of those who are talking against guns and want gun control,; have ever tried to buy a licensed gun, and gone through the current back ground checks required for gun owner ship. Odds are they only know what the media has told them. There is a requirement to take a driver's test and a renewal every few years, but look at all the accidents and around 30,000 killed each year by cars. It is true that while a background check is often required (or in some statesÂ* a concealed weapon permit), there is no check for being able to even know which end of the gun to point at someone.Â* Probably no where as meany deaths by accident. And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene I like graph #6 and graph #7 here. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts Â*Â*Â* Paul Did you check and see that most mass shootings are done with legally registered guns? -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 8/14/2019 12:38 AM, Paul wrote: Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-08-13 5:56 p.m., Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... They do this for motor cars and other things besides. For guns why not a sliding scale where the fee increases per gun for each owned. And fingerprint and photograph the owners. True. There's not even a requirement that a gun owner demonstrate that he knows how to use (SAFELY use) the thing. I wonder who many of those who are talking against guns and want gun control,; have ever tried to buy a licensed gun, and gone through the current back ground checks required for gun owner ship. Odds are they only know what the media has told them. There is a requirement to take a driver's test and a renewal every few years, but look at all the accidents and around 30,000 killed each year by cars. It is true that while a background check is often required (or in some states a concealed weapon permit), there is no check for being able to even know which end of the gun to point at someone. Probably no where as meany deaths by accident. And some 36,000 killed by gunfire, Pretty ****ing pitiful. Rene I like graph #6 and graph #7 here. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts Paul Did you check and see that most mass shootings are done with legally registered guns? I just thought you might have some perspective to offer on Graph #6 and whether you thought it was bad enough to need fixing yet. The first step for your country, is acknowledging you have a problem. Since your country doesn't have a functional government, I don't think it's really possible to do anything anyway. But it's fun to pretend. Part of being in government is doing unpopular things, and "suffering at the polls" for it. If you actually believed in what you were doing as a politician, you weren't "in it for the pension", that would be a worthwhile sacrifice. You get to contribute to your country, are kicked out, and the next positive contributor takes over. But the first step, is looking in wonderment at graph #6, and maybe... just maybe... shaking your head a bit. Discussing "potential policies" is likely pointless right now. Because no one has the fortitude to do anything. If anything changes in your country... it will be by random chance. Who knows, maybe the problem will be fixed a hundred years from now. It could happen. Paul |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths;
but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:03:26 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? The Japanese don't seem to have a problem. Their suicide rate is higher than ours and they don't many guns. |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On 2019-08-15 3:03 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? other ways aren't so easy to access and a gun is usually not the first go to answer among suicidals |
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Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote
Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:51:54 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, it’s a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. Easier to do with a bomb or fire. |
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, "Rod Speed" wrote: Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. Easier to do with a bomb or fire. Or an automobile or truck... Guns don't kill - killers kill. -- Yours Truly, Sir Gregory Nadegda, kensi, Fran, Pandora » these are easily ignored misandrists and anti-American, leftist liars. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:51:54 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, it¢s a quite effective way of committing suicide. Just what's holding you back, you 85-year-old senile trolling pest? You are a mess anyway! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 2019-08-15 4:16 p.m., Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote: On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, "Rod Speed" wrote: Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. Easier to do with a bomb or fire. Or an automobile or truck... Guns don't kill - killers kill. poop don't stink people do |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
"Klaus Schadenfreude" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:51:54 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, it's a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. Easier to do with a bomb Much harder to make one that works. or fire. Ditto. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:25:46 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. Easier to do with a bomb Much harder to make one that works. Auto-contradicting senile asshole! LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On 8/15/2019 6:21 PM, % wrote:
On 2019-08-15 3:03 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? other ways aren't so easy to access and a gun is usually not the first go to answer among suicidals There should be no Suicides, as I believe it is against the law in most states. Remember we can control anything with a law. Remember how we legislated alcohol out of existence? We have remove auto deaths from our country as we passed many laws required new safety features each required to lower the death rate by %10 0.1 (10%) to the X power approaches 0. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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On 16/08/2019 8:51 am, Rod Speed wrote:
Jeff-Relf.MeÂ* @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. In US the suicide rate is higher in households with guns, same in Australia But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... On 8/15/2019 6:21 PM, % wrote: On 2019-08-15 3:03 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? other ways aren't so easy to access and a gun is usually not the first go to answer among suicidals There should be no Suicides, as I believe it is against the law in most states. Hasnt been true for a long time now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicid...#United_States Remember we can control anything with a law. Remember how we legislated alcohol out of existence? We have remove auto deaths from our country as we passed many laws required new safety features each required to lower the death rate by %10 0.1 (10%) to the X power approaches 0. |
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Dechucka wrote
Rod Speed wrote Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. In US the suicide rate is higher in households with guns, same in Australia Hardly surprising given that its such an effective and simple way of killing yourself and presumably doesnt hurt for long when you do it properly. Personally I'd use nembutal given that its a lot more reliable and completely painless, but its nothing like as easy to organise even in the US where its just a quick trip to mexico where its readily available over the counter for anyone who wants it. But taking the guns away has now seen no more spree killing of lots of people in the one event. Lot harder to do that with a knife. |
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On 16/08/2019 12:10 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
Dechucka wrote Rod Speed wrote Jeff-Relf.MeÂ* @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. In US the suicide rate is higher in households with guns, same in Australia Hardly surprising given that its such an effective and simple way of killing yourself and presumably doesnt hurt for long when you do it properly. Simple and effective is the reason. You don't have to organize the nembutal or rope or go down to the rail track or whatever so the time to have 2nd thoughts is reduced. Also other methods increase the chances of being found in the process Personally I'd use nembutal given that its a lot more reliable and completely painless, especially washed down with a bottle of good scotch apperently but its nothing like as easy to organise even in the US where its just a quick trip to mexico where its readily available over the counter for anyone who wants it. |
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Dechucka wrote
Rod Speed wrote Dechucka wrote Rod Speed wrote Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. In US the suicide rate is higher in households with guns, same in Australia Hardly surprising given that its such an effective and simple way of killing yourself and presumably doesnt hurt for long when you do it properly. Simple and effective is the reason. What I said. You don't have to organize the nembutal Or research that as an effective approach. or rope No real organisation involved there. Likely the reason they prefer to shoot themselves is that its likely to be rather less painful than hanging themselves with no real chance of changing your mind once you have done it or go down to the rail track or whatever so the time to have 2nd thoughts is reduced. And also more chance of doing it when ****ed and just decide '**** it' and do it due to the reduction in inhibitions that comes with lots of grog. Also other methods increase the chances of being found in the process Sure, but you'd have to be pretty incompetent to have that happen with hanging yourself. I bet most who dont like that approach dont like it for that other reason, not a great way to go. Personally I'd use nembutal given that its a lot more reliable and completely painless, especially washed down with a bottle of good scotch apparently Yeah, it doesnt taste that great. but its nothing like as easy to organise even in the US where its just a quick trip to mexico where its readily available over the counter for anyone who wants it. |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:03:26 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns
Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. Something over half of them are self-inflicted; we don't know exactly how many of these are suicides and how many are just people playing with their guns and manage to shoot themselves. About 30% are obviously suicide; the rest, we don't know. We don't know what they'd do if they didn't have a gun. Your guess is as good as anyone else's. |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On 16/08/2019 3:15 pm, !Jones wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:03:26 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. Something over half of them are self-inflicted; we don't know exactly how many of these are suicides and how many are just people playing with their guns and manage to shoot themselves. About 30% are obviously suicide; the rest, we don't know. We don't know what they'd do if they didn't have a gun. Your guess is as good as anyone else's. Except the data from the US shows that guns in a household are a significant risk factor. |
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:00:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: There should be no Suicides, as I believe it is against the law in most states. Hasn¢t been true for a long time now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicid...#United_States LOL Auto-contradicting senile asshole! You will even search the Net for links just to be able to auto-contradict, you pathological senile asshole! And if there's nothing to auto-contradict, you will even auto-contradict YOURSELF, as happened already repeatedly! Go euthanize yourself finally, you useless senile pest! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:10:41 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Hardly surprising given that its such an effective and simple way of killing yourself and presumably doesn¢t hurt for long when you do it properly. Personally I'd use nembutal given that it¢s a lot more reliable and completely painless, but its nothing like as easy to organise even in the US where its just a quick trip to mexico where its readily available over the counter for anyone who wants it. Glad to see you've thought this through already, you 85-year-old senile cretin! Now give it a go! -- addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent: "You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates your particular prowess at it every day." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:22:30 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Personally I'd use nembutal given that it¢s a lot more reliable and completely painless, especially washed down with a bottle of good scotch apparently Yeah, it doesn¢t taste that great. What does it taste like then, senile asshole? Do tell us. Show everyone your "expertise" in everything! LMAO -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On 15/08/2019 23:03, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? NIMH » Suicide https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/stat.../suicide.shtml 16 Apr 2019 - Suicide is among the leading causes of death in the United States. ... Among females, the suicide rate was highest for those aged 45-54 (10.0 ... -- Bod |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On 15/08/2019 23:20, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 15:03:26 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote: Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? The Japanese don't seem to have a problem. Their suicide rate is higher than ours and they don't many guns. The suicide *facts* in Japan: https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/c...f_gun_suicides -- Bod |
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What if they didn't have guns ?
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 10:10:56 PM UTC-4, Rod Speed wrote:
Dechucka wrote Rod Speed wrote Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote Sure, countries with more guns have more gun related deaths; but, don't forget, two thirds of them are suicides, 86% of which are male, usually 45+ years old. And apart from the mess someone has to hose away, its a quite effective way of committing suicide. What if they didn't have guns ? wouldn't they find another way ? Corse they would and do in the countrys that have taken guns away. In US the suicide rate is higher in households with guns, same in Australia Hardly surprising given that its such an effective and simple way of killing yourself and presumably doesnt hurt for long when you do it properly. Personally I'd use nembutal given that its a lot more reliable and completely painless, but its nothing like as easy to organise even in the US where its just a quick trip to mexico where its readily available over the counter for anyone who wants it. I wouldn't call a 5+ hour flight (or 25-hour drive) a quick trip. The gun would be much quicker and cheaper. Cindy Hamilton |
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