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news I know everything there is to know about teaching.

You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.


Well unless they were lying....


Or exaggerating...


About what?

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.


I knew quite a few that did.


Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.


Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where they
aren't teaching.


Doesnt happen with primary schools.


Primary schools don't need preparation. How hard can it be to teach times tables?

Some managed to do all the marking and preparation then, and over lunch.


So they're not forced to work long hours.

Makes more sense to spend the time between 3:30 and 5 at home.

Most did, but working.

Try that again in english.


They spent it at home, but were working.


The opposite of what you said above.


I did not. I said they don't need to spend more than a standard working week working.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads. I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;


Maybe so,


No maybe about it.


Look up what "maybe so" means.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average taxpayer.


They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to the
NHS


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when you
need it.


Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.


Why would it? And the point is it costs you only if you use it and choose to use it.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.


What do you think it is?


You made that stupid claim...


Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.


I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.


So top yourself because thats what you are.


I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care. Look at what Simon did with the bridge.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.


A debt for 30 years?


Common with a mortgage, stupid.


Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.

How stupid of the government.


The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.


Nope,


Yep.


Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.

they only pay it for a short time, then say get a job.


And you couldnt even manage to do that.


Not my fault I'm ill.

They only paid the interest, and for a short time.

They should have given you the bums rush.


Maybe so,


No maybe about it.


For ****'s sake look that phrase up.

but I might aswell take it, since they've stolen it from me in the past.


You didnt even come close to paying what you cost them.


Then I win.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.


And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.


Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!

For example schools. You pay money per child you have.

That wouldnt work with the dregs of society who
are precisely the ones who need some education
to make them employable so they dont get benefits
for life when they are as unemployable as you.

Bull****.

Fact.

The dregs fail to get decent grades

Dont need to get decent grades. What matters
is that they can read and write and all but the
blind and crippled can do both.

They still don't get jobs because the non-dregs take the jobs.

Thats bull**** when the unemployment rate is as low as it is.

Everyone can read and write,

Because their education is paid for by taxes.

But that ability is pointless.

Corse it isnt, it makes them employable, stupid.


Most minimum wage jobs don't need literacy.


BULL****. Have fun listing even one that doesnt.


Binman. Gardener.

Anyway, kids learn to read from their parents.


Wrong again with the bulk of the dregs that end up on welfare


Their problem. Have a kid, don't teach it to read, it dies of starvation. End of genetic line.

You really don't need a school for that.


Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.


Just how hard do you think it is to teach someone to read?

yet there are thousands round here not clever enough to do any jobs at all.

Like you.

They can't hold down a MacDonalds job.

You can't hold down any job anywhere.

Because I'm ill, nothing to do with my intelligence.

Bull****. You were too stupid to even get qualified in
an area where there are jobs where you prefer to 'live'


I just picked the course I was best at,


And that was complete stupid when there are
no jobs in that area where you prefer to 'live'


I couldn't have predicted what would be available in the future.

Plus, why go for a degree I wasn't sure I could pass?

We might have been doing space travel by now


No chance and it wouldnt be done where you chose to 'live' anyway,


We bloody should be up there by now, but we waste money on stupid things..

and just waste tax payers money getting "educated".

Thats bull**** when they are made employable.

No point when there are less jobs than workers.

There isnt.

There most certainly is.

Bull****.

Every time I've applied for a job there are about 100-200 applicants.

Those are the ones pretending to apply so they dont get their benefits
stopped.

Not at that level of work.

Bull****.


Those who never work apply for McDonalds jobs, not ones requiring a
degree.


They actually apply for any job at all so they keep getting benefits.


And then have to take one or they lose the benefits.

We should only educate those with brains.

Even sillier than you usually manage with the
worst of the dregs. We no longer turn out
any kids who can't read and write anymore.

I don't care if the dimwits can't read.

You have always been completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not care about in spades.

What's the point in educating the dregs.

Much cheaper than benefits for life because they are unemployable.

Why educate a binman?

Because they need to be able to read the roster,
read the street signs, read the labels on the bin
machine, read the instructions on what do do
about fools like you that can't put the right
stuff in the right bins, etc etc etc.

Moving bins about doesn't require literacy or numeracy.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

And there was clearly no point in educating you, no one who stuffs
catalogs
thru letterbox slots need a degree in theoretical physics to do that..


I do that because I can't get up before 10:30.


You choose not to. If someone said you'd be shot if you
didnt get up before 10:30, youd get up before 10:30


And if I had to do it every day I'd probably be dead by now. It ****s me in the head just doing it once every few weeks.

And if they're going to be binmen, they might aswell not go to school
at
all.

They still need to be able to read the roster and
get too and from work and park at work etc.

They cant even get a license to
drive the truck if they can't read.

Only one drives the truck.

Thats all we have, the one driving the truck.
We arent actually stupid enough to have
anyone running around moving bins, the
residents put the bin out on the road verge
where the truck picks the bin up and emp[ys
it into the truck and puts it back on the ground.


They only do that in one county here (Stirling).


Yep, you clowns are that stupid.

It doesn't seem to be very common, probably cheaper to employ people than
maintain all those mechanisms.


Corse it isnt. It costs sweet **** all to maintain those
mechanisms and there is a just the ****ing great thing
that grabs the bin and tips it into the back of the truck.


But it relies on other things, like the bin owners placing them precisely, and no parked cars being in the way. Tell me, can those devices turn a bin round? Can they hoist a bin over a parked car?

They claim they have preparation.

They do, even if they use a lesson plan prepared by someone else.

You really need to pick a side and stick to it.

Nope, the real world isnt black and white.

It is if you want it to be.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

I see you have no reply then. You lose.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.


Repeating yourself won't help your side of the argument.


Corse you never ever repeat yourself with that silly **** about
what you were stupid enough to get qualified in, eh ?


Only when you keep asking the same damn questions.

Typical government employees in a left wing society run by ****ing
unions.

Even yours isnt run by unions anymore.

Really?

Yep.

People go on strike all the time.

**** all of them do.

Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.

And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.

Since we have ludicrously high unemployment,

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

it would be easy to hire new ones. Ones that actually want to work.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Why on earth should companies be forced to pay people who refuse to
work?

Yep, it should have been a bullet in the back of the neck for you.


I have never gone on strike.


But you refuse to work before 10:30


But I don't expect to be paid while I'm not working, strikers do.

I was asked to do so once and told the union to **** off.

You're not one of those psycho lefties like traitor4 are you?

Nope, I believe that the completely unemployables like you
would be getting a bullet in the back of the neck and turned
into pet food.


But you stated that you think unions and striking are a good thing.


I never ever did anything of the sort.


ME: Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.
YOU: And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news I know everything there is to know about teaching.

You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....


Or exaggerating...


About what?


About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.


I knew quite a few that did.


Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.


Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.


You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where they
aren't teaching.


Doesnt happen with primary schools.


Primary schools don't need preparation.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?


They dont teach that anymore.

Some managed to do all the marking and preparation then, and over lunch.


So they're not forced to work long hours.

Makes more sense to spend the time between 3:30 and 5 at home.

Most did, but working.

Try that again in english.

They spent it at home, but were working.


The opposite of what you said above.


I did not. I said they don't need to spend more than a standard working
week working.


You have no idea what they did at home.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads. I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;


Maybe so,


No maybe about it.


Look up what "maybe so" means.


Look up what "no maybe about it" means.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average taxpayer.


They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to the
NHS


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise


Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the NHS,

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when you
need it.


Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.


Why would it?


Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company makes.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.

And the point is it costs you only if you use it and choose to use it.


The point is it costs twice as much done that way.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?


You made that stupid claim...


Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.


Wrong, as always.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.


So top yourself because thats what you are.


I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.


Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.

Look at what Simon did with the bridge.


Even you can hang yourself.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?


Common with a mortgage, stupid.


Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.


Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.

How stupid of the government.


The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,


Yep.


Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.


They should have given you nothing.

they only pay it for a short time, then say get a job.


And you couldnt even manage to do that.


Not my fault I'm ill.


Your fault that you dont top yourself.

They only paid the interest, and for a short time.

They should have given you the bums rush.

Maybe so,


No maybe about it.


For ****'s sake look that phrase up.


For ****'s sake look that phrase up.

but I might aswell take it, since they've stolen it from me in the past.


You didnt even come close to paying what you cost them.


Then I win.


Nope, you've always been the loser/parasite.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.


And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.


Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!


Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming turd of a
country.

For example schools. You pay money per child you have.

That wouldnt work with the dregs of society who
are precisely the ones who need some education
to make them employable so they dont get benefits
for life when they are as unemployable as you.

Bull****.

Fact.

The dregs fail to get decent grades

Dont need to get decent grades. What matters
is that they can read and write and all but the
blind and crippled can do both.

They still don't get jobs because the non-dregs take the jobs.

Thats bull**** when the unemployment rate is as low as it is.

Everyone can read and write,

Because their education is paid for by taxes.

But that ability is pointless.

Corse it isnt, it makes them employable, stupid.

Most minimum wage jobs don't need literacy.


BULL****. Have fun listing even one that doesnt.


Binman.


They need to be able to read street signs.

Gardener.


Ditto, and the labels on the weed killer etc.

Anyway, kids learn to read from their parents.


Wrong again with the bulk of the dregs that end up on welfare


Their problem. Have a kid, don't teach it to read, it dies of starvation.


Even you can work out what is a loaf of bread without reading the label.

End of genetic line.


Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.

Even you should have noticed that your birds and cats
do manage to survive without being able to read.

You really don't need a school for that.


Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.


Just how hard do you think it is to teach someone to read?


Pretty hard for those who cant read themselves.

yet there are thousands round here not clever enough to do any jobs
at all.

Like you.

They can't hold down a MacDonalds job.

You can't hold down any job anywhere.

Because I'm ill, nothing to do with my intelligence.

Bull****. You were too stupid to even get qualified in
an area where there are jobs where you prefer to 'live'

I just picked the course I was best at,


And that was complete stupid when there are
no jobs in that area where you prefer to 'live'


I couldn't have predicted what would be available in the future.


Yep, you actually are that stupid.

Plus, why go for a degree I wasn't sure I could pass?


Because it would give you much better job prospects, stupid.

We might have been doing space travel by now


No chance and it wouldnt be done where you chose to 'live' anyway,


We bloody should be up there by now,


Nope, complete waste of money.

but we waste money on stupid things.


Yep, like paying the interest on your mortgage.

and just waste tax payers money getting "educated".

Thats bull**** when they are made employable.

No point when there are less jobs than workers.

There isnt.

There most certainly is.

Bull****.

Every time I've applied for a job there are about 100-200
applicants.

Those are the ones pretending to apply so they dont get their
benefits
stopped.

Not at that level of work.

Bull****.

Those who never work apply for McDonalds jobs, not ones requiring a
degree.


They actually apply for any job at all so they keep getting benefits.


And then have to take one or they lose the benefits.


Trivial to ensure you dont get offered one.

We should only educate those with brains.

Even sillier than you usually manage with the
worst of the dregs. We no longer turn out
any kids who can't read and write anymore.

I don't care if the dimwits can't read.

You have always been completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not care about in spades.

What's the point in educating the dregs.

Much cheaper than benefits for life because they are unemployable.

Why educate a binman?

Because they need to be able to read the roster,
read the street signs, read the labels on the bin
machine, read the instructions on what do do
about fools like you that can't put the right
stuff in the right bins, etc etc etc.

Moving bins about doesn't require literacy or numeracy.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

And there was clearly no point in educating you, no one who stuffs
catalogs
thru letterbox slots need a degree in theoretical physics to do that.

I do that because I can't get up before 10:30.


You choose not to. If someone said you'd be shot if you
didnt get up before 10:30, youd get up before 10:30


And if I had to do it every day I'd probably be dead by now.


Great.

It ****s me in the head just doing it once every few weeks.


Then hang yourself.

And if they're going to be binmen, they might aswell not go to
school
at
all.

They still need to be able to read the roster and
get too and from work and park at work etc.

They cant even get a license to
drive the truck if they can't read.

Only one drives the truck.

Thats all we have, the one driving the truck.
We arent actually stupid enough to have
anyone running around moving bins, the
residents put the bin out on the road verge
where the truck picks the bin up and emp[ys
it into the truck and puts it back on the ground.


They only do that in one county here (Stirling).


Yep, you clowns are that stupid.

It doesn't seem to be very common, probably cheaper to employ people
than
maintain all those mechanisms.


Corse it isnt. It costs sweet **** all to maintain those
mechanisms and there is a just the ****ing great thing
that grabs the bin and tips it into the back of the truck.


But it relies on other things, like the bin owners placing them precisely,


Nope, no precisely required.

and no parked cars being in the way.


That bin doesnt get emptied.

Tell me, can those devices turn a bin round?


No point in doing that.

Can they hoist a bin over a parked car?


Yep.

They claim they have preparation.

They do, even if they use a lesson plan prepared by someone else.

You really need to pick a side and stick to it.

Nope, the real world isnt black and white.

It is if you want it to be.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

I see you have no reply then. You lose.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Repeating yourself won't help your side of the argument.


Corse you never ever repeat yourself with that silly **** about
what you were stupid enough to get qualified in, eh ?


Only when you keep asking the same damn questions.


Obvious lie.

Typical government employees in a left wing society run by
****ing
unions.

Even yours isnt run by unions anymore.

Really?

Yep.

People go on strike all the time.

**** all of them do.

Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.

And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.

Since we have ludicrously high unemployment,

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

it would be easy to hire new ones. Ones that actually want to work.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Why on earth should companies be forced to pay people who refuse to
work?

Yep, it should have been a bullet in the back of the neck for you.

I have never gone on strike.


But you refuse to work before 10:30


But I don't expect to be paid while I'm not working, strikers do.


Only fools pay strikers.

I was asked to do so once and told the union to **** off.

You're not one of those psycho lefties like traitor4 are you?

Nope, I believe that the completely unemployables like you
would be getting a bullet in the back of the neck and turned
into pet food.

But you stated that you think unions and striking are a good thing.


I never ever did anything of the sort.


ME: Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.
YOU: And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.


Thats nothing even remotely like think unions and striking are a good
thing.

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news I know everything there is to know about teaching.

You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...


About what?


About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.


Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all outside of class time.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.


Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.


You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.


I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they did none.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where they
aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.


Primary schools don't need preparation.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?


They dont teach that anymore.


They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an adult to prepare for.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads. I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;

Maybe so,

No maybe about it.


Look up what "maybe so" means.


Look up what "no maybe about it" means.


My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion, that the average taxpayer (not me) pays a stupid amount to the NHS.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to the
NHS


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise


Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the NHS,


"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS". It's in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.


Why would it?


Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company makes..


Competition reduces prices you silly left wing moron.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.


But at least Americans get to choose their level of healthcare.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?

You made that stupid claim...


Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.


Wrong, as always.


Then tell me what you think the average is.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.

So top yourself because thats what you are.


I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.


Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.


That doesn't sound comfortable, I think I'd go for drowning.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?

Common with a mortgage, stupid.


Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.


Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.


Only stupid voters go for governments who increase the national debt.

How stupid of the government.

The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,

Yep.


Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.


They should have given you nothing.


So you've changed to right wing now. Just now you were saying how wonderful the NHS is.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.

And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.


Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!


Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming turd of a
country.


I was born here unfortunately. At least I don't have to deal with sexes of inanimate objects like the French and Germans.
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news I know everything there is to know about teaching.

You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson
plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson
was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...

About what?


About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.


Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all
outside of class time.


You just claimed the opposite.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.

Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.


You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.


I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they did
none.


And you have no way of knowing what the reality is.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where
they
aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.

Primary schools don't need preparation.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?


They dont teach that anymore.


They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an adult
to prepare for.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads. I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;

Maybe so,

No maybe about it.

Look up what "maybe so" means.


Look up what "no maybe about it" means.


My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion,


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

that the average taxpayer (not me) pays a stupid amount to the NHS.


That number is straight from your arse, we can tell from the smell.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to
the
NHS

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise


Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the NHS,


"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS". It's
in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.


Thats not the AVERAGE TAXPAYER, ****wit.

And just because some ****wit journo claims something in some **** rag...

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.

Why would it?


Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company makes.


Competition reduces prices


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.


But at least Americans get to choose their level of healthcare.


They dont actually because the premiums are so outrageous.

They get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.

And when their medical costs are the highest, at the end of
their lives, they have their equivalent of the NHS, Medicare.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?

You made that stupid claim...

Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.


Wrong, as always.


Then tell me what you think the average is.


There is no average. Its impossible to separate
what individual taxpayers pay from the other
tax revenue like company tax etc and while
the individuals do indirectly pay the company
tax in the prices they pay for goods and services,
what they spend on those varys very dramatically;

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.

So top yourself because thats what you are.

I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.


Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.


That doesn't sound comfortable, I think I'd go for drowning.


Thats not comfortable either.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I
can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?

Common with a mortgage, stupid.

Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.


Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.


Only stupid voters go for governments who increase the national debt.


Clearly the bulk of the voters must be stupid then.

How stupid of the government.

The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,

Yep.

Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.


They should have given you nothing.


So you've changed to right wing now.


Never changed at all.

Just now you were saying how wonderful the NHS is.


Never said that either. I JUST rubbed your stupid nose
in the FACT that doing it that way costs HALF as much
as a pure insurance system and delivers a better result
in the measures that matter, infant mortality and years
in good health.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.

And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.

Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!


Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming turd of
a country.


I was born here unfortunately.


But have always been free to leave.

At least I don't have to deal with sexes of inanimate objects like the
French and Germans.


You're free to keep using english there and are free
to move there before 29-Oct too.



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Thats bull**** when the unemployment rate is as low as it is.

Everyone can read and write,

Because their education is paid for by taxes.

But that ability is pointless.

Corse it isnt, it makes them employable, stupid.

Most minimum wage jobs don't need literacy.

BULL****. Have fun listing even one that doesnt.


Binman.


They need to be able to read street signs.


Only the driver. And you don't need much education to read a sign. Even Americans can manage that.

Anyway, kids learn to read from their parents.

Wrong again with the bulk of the dregs that end up on welfare


Their problem. Have a kid, don't teach it to read, it dies of starvation.


Even you can work out what is a loaf of bread without reading the label.


But can it afford to buy the loaf of bread?

End of genetic line.


Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.

Even you should have noticed that your birds and cats
do manage to survive without being able to read.


Because I feed them.

You really don't need a school for that.

Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.


Just how hard do you think it is to teach someone to read?


Pretty hard for those who cant read themselves.


Each parent teaches its kids to read, and so on. No need to nationalise it. You ****ing lefty.

yet there are thousands round here not clever enough to do any jobs
at all.

Like you.

They can't hold down a MacDonalds job.

You can't hold down any job anywhere.

Because I'm ill, nothing to do with my intelligence.

Bull****. You were too stupid to even get qualified in
an area where there are jobs where you prefer to 'live'

I just picked the course I was best at,

And that was complete stupid when there are
no jobs in that area where you prefer to 'live'


I couldn't have predicted what would be available in the future.


Yep, you actually are that stupid.


It is impossible to predict.

Plus, why go for a degree I wasn't sure I could pass?


Because it would give you much better job prospects, stupid.


No prospects from a failed degree.

We might have been doing space travel by now

No chance and it wouldnt be done where you chose to 'live' anyway,


We bloody should be up there by now,


Nope, complete waste of money.


It's only expensive because were still using rockets for propulsion.

but we waste money on stupid things.


Yep, like paying the interest on your mortgage.


And child benefits.

and just waste tax payers money getting "educated".

Thats bull**** when they are made employable.

No point when there are less jobs than workers.

There isnt.

There most certainly is.

Bull****.

Every time I've applied for a job there are about 100-200
applicants.

Those are the ones pretending to apply so they dont get their
benefits
stopped.

Not at that level of work.

Bull****.

Those who never work apply for McDonalds jobs, not ones requiring a
degree.

They actually apply for any job at all so they keep getting benefits..


And then have to take one or they lose the benefits.


Trivial to ensure you dont get offered one.


Trivial to find out people who do that repeatedly.

We should only educate those with brains.

Even sillier than you usually manage with the
worst of the dregs. We no longer turn out
any kids who can't read and write anymore.

I don't care if the dimwits can't read.

You have always been completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not care about in spades.

What's the point in educating the dregs.

Much cheaper than benefits for life because they are unemployable.

Why educate a binman?

Because they need to be able to read the roster,
read the street signs, read the labels on the bin
machine, read the instructions on what do do
about fools like you that can't put the right
stuff in the right bins, etc etc etc.

Moving bins about doesn't require literacy or numeracy.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

And there was clearly no point in educating you, no one who stuffs
catalogs
thru letterbox slots need a degree in theoretical physics to do that.

I do that because I can't get up before 10:30.

You choose not to. If someone said you'd be shot if you
didnt get up before 10:30, youd get up before 10:30


And if I had to do it every day I'd probably be dead by now.


Great.

It ****s me in the head just doing it once every few weeks.


Then hang yourself.


I might fail, costing the NHS thousands.

And if they're going to be binmen, they might aswell not go to
school
at
all.

They still need to be able to read the roster and
get too and from work and park at work etc.

They cant even get a license to
drive the truck if they can't read.

Only one drives the truck.

Thats all we have, the one driving the truck.
We arent actually stupid enough to have
anyone running around moving bins, the
residents put the bin out on the road verge
where the truck picks the bin up and emp[ys
it into the truck and puts it back on the ground.

They only do that in one county here (Stirling).

Yep, you clowns are that stupid.

It doesn't seem to be very common, probably cheaper to employ people
than
maintain all those mechanisms.

Corse it isnt. It costs sweet **** all to maintain those
mechanisms and there is a just the ****ing great thing
that grabs the bin and tips it into the back of the truck.


But it relies on other things, like the bin owners placing them precisely,


Nope, no precisely required.


What if they're facing the wrong way?

and no parked cars being in the way.


That bin doesnt get emptied.


Some streets are full of parked cars, they'd get about 1 in 20 bins.

Tell me, can those devices turn a bin round?


No point in doing that.


It can only pick it up from one side.

Can they hoist a bin over a parked car?


Yep.


You just said it doesn't get emptied, please be more consistent in your replies.

They claim they have preparation.

They do, even if they use a lesson plan prepared by someone else.

You really need to pick a side and stick to it.

Nope, the real world isnt black and white.

It is if you want it to be.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

I see you have no reply then. You lose.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Repeating yourself won't help your side of the argument.

Corse you never ever repeat yourself with that silly **** about
what you were stupid enough to get qualified in, eh ?


Only when you keep asking the same damn questions.


Obvious lie.


You can clearly see from the group that you ask the same **** over and over again. Why do you think most people have killfiled you?

Typical government employees in a left wing society run by
****ing
unions.

Even yours isnt run by unions anymore.

Really?

Yep.

People go on strike all the time.

**** all of them do.

Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.

And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.

Since we have ludicrously high unemployment,

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

it would be easy to hire new ones. Ones that actually want to work.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Why on earth should companies be forced to pay people who refuse to
work?

Yep, it should have been a bullet in the back of the neck for you.

I have never gone on strike.

But you refuse to work before 10:30


But I don't expect to be paid while I'm not working, strikers do.


Only fools pay strikers.


Everybody does, because the stupid government forces them to.

I was asked to do so once and told the union to **** off.

You're not one of those psycho lefties like traitor4 are you?

Nope, I believe that the completely unemployables like you
would be getting a bullet in the back of the neck and turned
into pet food.

But you stated that you think unions and striking are a good thing.

I never ever did anything of the sort.


ME: Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.
YOU: And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.


Thats nothing even remotely like think unions and striking are a good
thing.


Firemen had a strike here recently. I would have fired them, you just said you shouldn't because my hovel would burn.
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Thats bull**** when the unemployment rate is as low as it is.

Everyone can read and write,

Because their education is paid for by taxes.

But that ability is pointless.

Corse it isnt, it makes them employable, stupid.

Most minimum wage jobs don't need literacy.

BULL****. Have fun listing even one that doesnt.

Binman.


They need to be able to read street signs.


Only the driver.


Bull****. They will also drive when not at work etc.

And you don't need much education to read a sign.


Thats bull**** too. Same with the road rules when getting
a license and being tested for knowing the road rules etc.

Anyway, kids learn to read from their parents.

Wrong again with the bulk of the dregs that end up on welfare

Their problem. Have a kid, don't teach it to read, it dies of
starvation.


Even you can work out what is a loaf of bread without reading the label.


But can it afford to buy the loaf of bread?


Corse they can. Even the dregs on benefits can do that.

End of genetic line.


Only in your pathetic little drug crazed drunken fantasyland.


Even you should have noticed that your birds and cats
do manage to survive without being able to read.


Because I feed them.


Pity about the wild and feral ones.

You really don't need a school for that.

Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.

Just how hard do you think it is to teach someone to read?


Pretty hard for those who cant read themselves.


Each parent teaches its kids to read, and so on.


The worst of the parents arent capable of doing that.

No need to nationalise it.


It isnt nationalised, just made compulsory, for a reason.

You ****ing lefty.


I'm a righty, ****wit.

yet there are thousands round here not clever enough to do any
jobs
at all.

Like you.

They can't hold down a MacDonalds job.

You can't hold down any job anywhere.

Because I'm ill, nothing to do with my intelligence.

Bull****. You were too stupid to even get qualified in
an area where there are jobs where you prefer to 'live'

I just picked the course I was best at,

And that was complete stupid when there are
no jobs in that area where you prefer to 'live'

I couldn't have predicted what would be available in the future.


Yep, you actually are that stupid.


It is impossible to predict.


Bull**** it is. Its completely obvious that we will
always need lots providing medical service, even
in that cesspit of the UK where you choose to
bludge on the taxpayer.

Plus, why go for a degree I wasn't sure I could pass?


Because it would give you much better job prospects, stupid.


No prospects from a failed degree.


Wrong, as always. And even you would be able to pass
a degree in providing medical services and in teaching.

We might have been doing space travel by now

No chance and it wouldnt be done where you chose to 'live' anyway,

We bloody should be up there by now,


Nope, complete waste of money.


It's only expensive because were still using rockets for propulsion.


There is no other viable way of doing space travel that is any cheaper.

but we waste money on stupid things.


Yep, like paying the interest on your mortgage.


And child benefits.


Agreed, but thats bribing the voters to vote for that party.
Even you have likely noticed that most voters do have kids.

and just waste tax payers money getting "educated".

Thats bull**** when they are made employable.

No point when there are less jobs than workers.

There isnt.

There most certainly is.

Bull****.

Every time I've applied for a job there are about 100-200
applicants.

Those are the ones pretending to apply so they dont get their
benefits
stopped.

Not at that level of work.

Bull****.

Those who never work apply for McDonalds jobs, not ones requiring a
degree.

They actually apply for any job at all so they keep getting benefits.

And then have to take one or they lose the benefits.


Trivial to ensure you dont get offered one.


Trivial to find out people who do that repeatedly.


But no way to prove that they did that deliberately.

We should only educate those with brains.

Even sillier than you usually manage with the
worst of the dregs. We no longer turn out
any kids who can't read and write anymore.

I don't care if the dimwits can't read.

You have always been completely irrelevant.
What you may or may not care about in spades.

What's the point in educating the dregs.

Much cheaper than benefits for life because they are unemployable.

Why educate a binman?

Because they need to be able to read the roster,
read the street signs, read the labels on the bin
machine, read the instructions on what do do
about fools like you that can't put the right
stuff in the right bins, etc etc etc.

Moving bins about doesn't require literacy or numeracy.

Even sillier than you usually manage, and thats saying something.

And there was clearly no point in educating you, no one who stuffs
catalogs
thru letterbox slots need a degree in theoretical physics to do that.

I do that because I can't get up before 10:30.

You choose not to. If someone said you'd be shot if you
didnt get up before 10:30, youd get up before 10:30

And if I had to do it every day I'd probably be dead by now.


Great.

It ****s me in the head just doing it once every few weeks.


Then hang yourself.


I might fail, costing the NHS thousands.


Trivial to ensure you dont fail. Even you could manage that.

And if they're going to be binmen, they might aswell not go to
school at all.

They still need to be able to read the roster and
get too and from work and park at work etc.

They cant even get a license to
drive the truck if they can't read.

Only one drives the truck.

Thats all we have, the one driving the truck.
We arent actually stupid enough to have
anyone running around moving bins, the
residents put the bin out on the road verge
where the truck picks the bin up and emp[ys
it into the truck and puts it back on the ground.

They only do that in one county here (Stirling).

Yep, you clowns are that stupid.

It doesn't seem to be very common, probably cheaper to employ people
than
maintain all those mechanisms.

Corse it isnt. It costs sweet **** all to maintain those
mechanisms and there is a just the ****ing great thing
that grabs the bin and tips it into the back of the truck.

But it relies on other things, like the bin owners placing them
precisely,


Nope, no precisely required.


What if they're facing the wrong way?


Thats not precisely and the bin gets left full where it is and
even the most stupid like you eventually gets the message.

and no parked cars being in the way.


That bin doesnt get emptied.


Some streets are full of parked cars, they'd get about 1 in 20 bins.


Design the bin grabbing machine so it lifts it right over the parked cars.

Tell me, can those devices turn a bin round?


No point in doing that.


It can only pick it up from one side.


Its not that thats the problem, its that they arent emptied the other war
around.

No big deal, fools like you who can't work out which way
around the bin goes get to not have their bin emptied.

Can they hoist a bin over a parked car?


Yep.


You just said it doesn't get emptied,


No I didnt.

please be more consistent in your replies.


Go and **** yourself, again.

They claim they have preparation.

They do, even if they use a lesson plan prepared by someone
else.

You really need to pick a side and stick to it.

Nope, the real world isnt black and white.

It is if you want it to be.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

I see you have no reply then. You lose.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Repeating yourself won't help your side of the argument.

Corse you never ever repeat yourself with that silly **** about
what you were stupid enough to get qualified in, eh ?

Only when you keep asking the same damn questions.


Obvious lie.


You can clearly see from the group that you ask the same **** over and
over again.


Obvious lie.

Why do you think most people have killfiled you?


Those that do hate having their stupid noses rubbed in the basics.

Just like you do.

Typical government employees in a left wing society run by
****ing unions.

Even yours isnt run by unions anymore.

Really?

Yep.

People go on strike all the time.

**** all of them do.

Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.

And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.

Since we have ludicrously high unemployment,

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

it would be easy to hire new ones. Ones that actually want to
work.

Just another of your silly little drug crazed drunken pig ignorant
fantasys.

Why on earth should companies be forced to pay people who refuse to
work?

Yep, it should have been a bullet in the back of the neck for you.

I have never gone on strike.

But you refuse to work before 10:30

But I don't expect to be paid while I'm not working, strikers do.


Only fools pay strikers.


Everybody does,


Another lie.

because the stupid government forces them to.


Like hell they do. If they dont work, they dont get paid.

I was asked to do so once and told the union to **** off.

You're not one of those psycho lefties like traitor4 are you?

Nope, I believe that the completely unemployables like you
would be getting a bullet in the back of the neck and turned
into pet food.

But you stated that you think unions and striking are a good thing.

I never ever did anything of the sort.

ME: Firemen, railway workers, etc. Fire the lot of them.
YOU: And watch your hovel burn. Great idea.


Thats nothing even remotely like think unions and striking are a good
thing.


Firemen had a strike here recently. I would have fired them, you just
said you shouldn't because my hovel would burn.


I never said that either.

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You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson
plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson
was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...

About what?

About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.


Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all
outside of class time.


You just claimed the opposite.


My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the sensible ones do this.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid..

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.

Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.

You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.


I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they did
none.


And you have no way of knowing what the reality is.


I have no reason to believe they were lying.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where
they
aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.

Primary schools don't need preparation.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?

They dont teach that anymore.


They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an adult
to prepare for.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.


Think what you learned at primary school. It ain't hard to teach that.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads.. I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;

Maybe so,

No maybe about it.

Look up what "maybe so" means.

Look up what "no maybe about it" means.


My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion,


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.


Don't interrupt.

that the average taxpayer (not me) pays a stupid amount to the NHS.


That number is straight from your arse, we can tell from the smell.


I looked it up and provided you with the link.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to
the
NHS

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise

Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the NHS,


"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS". It's
in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.


Thats not the AVERAGE TAXPAYER, ****wit.

And just because some ****wit journo claims something in some **** rag....


Then you explain why taxes are stupidly high.

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.

Why would it?

Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company makes.


Competition reduces prices


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit.


It does with everything, that's how competition works. Someone will always try to sell you the same thing for a little bit less.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.


But at least Americans get to choose their level of healthcare.


They dont actually because the premiums are so outrageous.


Bull****, many Americans buy their own.

They get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.

And when their medical costs are the highest, at the end of
their lives, they have their equivalent of the NHS, Medicare.


That's the ones in council estates.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?

You made that stupid claim...

Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.

Wrong, as always.


Then tell me what you think the average is.


There is no average. Its impossible to separate
what individual taxpayers pay from the other
tax revenue like company tax etc and while
the individuals do indirectly pay the company
tax in the prices they pay for goods and services,
what they spend on those varys very dramatically;


It's very easy to find the total amount the NHS costs to run. Divide that by the working population and you have the cost to the average taxpayer.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.

So top yourself because thats what you are.

I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.

Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.


That doesn't sound comfortable, I think I'd go for drowning.


Thats not comfortable either.


It would be very quick. Perfectly fine until you're short of breath, then you'd pass out in half a minute or so.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I
can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?

Common with a mortgage, stupid.

Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.

Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.


Only stupid voters go for governments who increase the national debt.


Clearly the bulk of the voters must be stupid then.


Well since 50% of the population only have a 2 digit IQ by definition.....

How stupid of the government.

The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,

Yep.

Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.

They should have given you nothing.


So you've changed to right wing now.


Never changed at all.


Either you agree with having an NHS, which makes you left wing, or you agree I shouldn't have been given mortgage assistance, which makes you right wing. Pick one.

Just now you were saying how wonderful the NHS is.


Never said that either. I JUST rubbed your stupid nose
in the FACT that doing it that way costs HALF as much
as a pure insurance system and delivers a better result
in the measures that matter, infant mortality and years
in good health.


The NHS is ****ing pathetic at curing anything, most die in 6 month+ waiting lists.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT..

And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.

Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!

Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming turd of
a country.


I was born here unfortunately.


But have always been free to leave.


I will not become an immigrunt.

At least I don't have to deal with sexes of inanimate objects like the
French and Germans.


You're free to keep using english there and are free
to move there before 29-Oct too.


Sure? We're chucking them all out, aren't they doing the same to us?


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news I know everything there is to know about teaching.

You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson
plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson
was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...

About what?

About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.

Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all
outside of class time.


You just claimed the opposite.


My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the sensible
ones do this.


Thats bull**** with marking and preparation.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of
unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once
he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.

Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.

You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.

I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they did
none.


And you have no way of knowing what the reality is.


I have no reason to believe they were lying.


Yes you do. With primary school teachers who dont have
any free time during school hours, they have to do the
marking and preparation outside school hours, stupid.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where
they aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.

Primary schools don't need preparation.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?

They dont teach that anymore.

They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an adult
to prepare for.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.


Think what you learned at primary school. It ain't hard to teach that.


Preparation is still required when how something is taught changes.

And how things are taught does change with primary school kids.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads.
I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging parasite;

Maybe so,

No maybe about it.

Look up what "maybe so" means.

Look up what "no maybe about it" means.


My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion,


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.


Don't interrupt.


Get ****ed.

that the average taxpayer (not me) pays a stupid amount to the NHS.


That number is straight from your arse, we can tell from the smell.


I looked it up and provided you with the link.


That link didnt say what you stupidly claimed.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average
taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it to
the
NHS

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise

Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the NHS,

"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS". It's
in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.


Thats not the AVERAGE TAXPAYER, ****wit.

And just because some ****wit journo claims something in some **** rag...


Then you explain why taxes are stupidly high.


Because of the stupid stuff you fools get the govt to pay for.

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when
you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.

Why would it?

Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company makes.


Competition reduces prices


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit.


It does with everything,


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.

that's how competition works.


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.

Someone will always try to sell you the same thing for a little bit less.


But has to pay the immense cost of deciding what they will pay
for, what they wont, for the advertising to get people to use them,
and the profit. That all DOUBLES the cost of medical services.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.

But at least Americans get to choose their level of healthcare.


They dont actually because the premiums are so outrageous.


Bull****, many Americans buy their own.


**** all do, they get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.

They get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.

And when their medical costs are the highest, at the end of
their lives, they have their equivalent of the NHS, Medicare.


That's the ones in council estates.


They dont have council estates.

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?

You made that stupid claim...

Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.

Wrong, as always.

Then tell me what you think the average is.


There is no average. Its impossible to separate
what individual taxpayers pay from the other
tax revenue like company tax etc and while
the individuals do indirectly pay the company
tax in the prices they pay for goods and services,
what they spend on those varys very dramatically;


It's very easy to find the total amount the NHS costs to run. Divide that
by the working population and you have the cost to the average taxpayer.


Nope, because most of the cost of the NHS isnt coming
from the average taxpayer.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.

So top yourself because thats what you are.

I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.

Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.

That doesn't sound comfortable, I think I'd go for drowning.


Thats not comfortable either.


It would be very quick. Perfectly fine until you're short of breath, then
you'd pass out in half a minute or so.


Just as true of hanging yourself.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I
can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?

Common with a mortgage, stupid.

Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow money.

Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.

Only stupid voters go for governments who increase the national debt.


Clearly the bulk of the voters must be stupid then.


Well since 50% of the population only have a 2 digit IQ by definition....


Thats not stupid, stupid.

How stupid of the government.

The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,

Yep.

Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.

They should have given you nothing.

So you've changed to right wing now.


Never changed at all.


Either you agree with having an NHS, which makes you left wing,


Nope, just someone with enough of a clue to realise that HALVING
the total medical costs makes sense, particularly when doing it like
that get a better result on the measures that matter like infant
mortality and years in good health as well.

or you agree I shouldn't have been given mortgage assistance, which makes
you right wing.


Doesnt do that either.

Pick one.


It aint that binary.

Just now you were saying how wonderful the NHS is.


Never said that either. I JUST rubbed your stupid nose
in the FACT that doing it that way costs HALF as much
as a pure insurance system and delivers a better result
in the measures that matter, infant mortality and years
in good health.


The NHS is ****ing pathetic at curing anything,


BULL****.

most die in 6 month+ waiting lists.


BULL****.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.

And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.

Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!

Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming turd
of
a country.


I was born here unfortunately.


But have always been free to leave.


I will not become an immigrunt.


Only the EU is actually stupid enough to let you move there.

At least I don't have to deal with sexes of inanimate objects like the
French and Germans.


You're free to keep using english there and are free
to move there before 29-Oct too.


Sure?


Yep.

We're chucking them all out,


Nope, not chucking any out in fact.

aren't they doing the same to us?


Nope.

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You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson
plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a lesson
was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...

About what?

About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.

Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all
outside of class time.

You just claimed the opposite.


My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the sensible
ones do this.


Thats bull**** with marking and preparation.


They get free periods and lunchbreaks for marking. As for preparation, just teach it the same way as you did last year.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of
unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5. Once
he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.

Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.

You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.

I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they did
none.

And you have no way of knowing what the reality is.


I have no reason to believe they were lying.


Yes you do. With primary school teachers who dont have
any free time during school hours, they have to do the
marking and preparation outside school hours, stupid.


There's **** all marking in primary school, and when I was there I saw my teachers do it during class. It really isn't hard to mark a few simple sums.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where
they aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.

Primary schools don't need preparation.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?

They dont teach that anymore.

They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an adult
to prepare for.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.


Think what you learned at primary school. It ain't hard to teach that.

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You clearly dont when you keep rabbiting on about lesson
plans.

I saw them planning them.

But couldnt see what else they did in their classrooms.

I saw plenty, I was often in a room doing repairs while a
lesson
was
going on.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

I did talk to them you know.

But have no idea what they do when not at school.

Well unless they were lying....

Or exaggerating...

About what?

About the amount of time they put in at home doing school work.

Which would work in the favour of my point, that teachers do **** all
outside of class time.

You just claimed the opposite.

My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the
sensible
ones do this.


Thats bull**** with marking and preparation.


They get free periods


Like hell they do with primary school teachers.

and lunchbreaks for marking.


Thats not what lunch breaks are for.

As for preparation, just teach it the same way as you did last year.


Not even possible when what gets taught and how its taught changes.

Lesson plans are only a small part of teaching, stupid.

But they're the thing teachers claim to need hours of
unpaid
work
to
do
in
the evenings.

Thats bull**** too, because many do share lesson plans.

And those ones enjoy lots of free time.

Wrong as always, when they spend it marking and
working out how to get the best out of some students.

One of the most sensible teachers I knew worked 9 to 5.
Once
he
went
home he stopped working.

Irrelevant to what most do.

It's what they can do if they wish.

Hardly any are stupid enough to stay in the school till 5

9 to 5 is an expression, in our case it was 8:30 to 3:30.

Hardly any of the teachers can get away with
not doing anything outside those hours.

I knew quite a few that did.

Sure, the time servers/hopeless teachers.

Nope, plenty managed to teach using only a standard working week.

You have no idea about that given that you have no idea what
they do when not a school.

I know what they told me. Some said they did loads, some said they
did
none.

And you have no way of knowing what the reality is.

I have no reason to believe they were lying.


Yes you do. With primary school teachers who dont have
any free time during school hours, they have to do the
marking and preparation outside school hours, stupid.


There's **** all marking in primary school,


Wrong, as always.

and when I was there I saw my teachers do it during class.


Bull****.

It really isn't hard to mark a few simple sums.


They might just teach more than a few simple sums, ****wit.

Within those hours they get free periods or non contact time where
they aren't teaching.

Doesnt happen with primary schools.

Primary schools don't need preparation.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

How hard can it be to teach times tables?

They dont teach that anymore.

They don't teach anything complicated enough that would require an
adult
to prepare for.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

Think what you learned at primary school. It ain't hard to teach that.


Preparation is still required when how something is taught changes.

And how things are taught does change with primary school kids.


Not often and not significantly.


Wrong, as always.

When I were a lad we were taught from books that were 20 years old.


Taint done like that anymore.

And the things being taught re so basic, you just don't need preparation.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and thats saying
something.

Same with your even sillier stuff about taxation.

I am quite familiar with tax, having been taxed and
seen
what
the
government spends it on without my authorisation.

Thats how taxation works, stupid. Its never going to
be feasible to make those affected by crime or
terrorist
activity to pay for the cops and courts involved in
dealing with criminals and terrorists. It has to be
paid for by taxation, whether you like that or not.

Most things could be made pay per use.

Most infrastructure couldnt.

Most of our taxes goes to **** we just don't need.

Thats pig ignorant bull**** too.

What do I get form the government? Bin collections. Roads.
I
don't
need anything else from them.

You clearly did with medical services alone.

I got less out of them than I've given them in taxes.

You dont pay them anything in taxes.

I did for 12 years.

The average payment to the NHS is £300 per taxpayer.

Not what you pay. You pay nothing and nothing like what it
costs to provide you with services. You're a tax dodging
parasite;

Maybe so,

No maybe about it.

Look up what "maybe so" means.

Look up what "no maybe about it" means.

My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion,

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

Don't interrupt.


Get ****ed.


Why do you feel the need to make your replies longer and longer by
inserting sentences in the middle of my paragraphs?


I comment on specific turds of yours, stupid.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average
taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it
to
the
NHS

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise

Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the
NHS,

"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS".
It's
in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.

Thats not the AVERAGE TAXPAYER, ****wit.

And just because some ****wit journo claims something in some ****
rag...

Then you explain why taxes are stupidly high.


Because of the stupid stuff you fools get the govt to pay for.


I never asked them to pay for it.


You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant. What you may or may not have asked for in spades.

You may well not have asked for the roads you hoon around
on, but they have to be provided by someone anyway.

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when
you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.

Why would it?

Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they
will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company
makes.

Competition reduces prices

It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit.

It does with everything,


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.

that's how competition works.


It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.


Impossible.


Fact actually.

Competition means each company has to undercut the others or gets no
sales.


Competition means that they have to advertise what they
are flogging, decide what they will pay for and what they
wont pay for, make a profit, pay off the pollys etc etc etc.

All that costs money and double the cost of medical services.

Someone will always try to sell you the same thing for a little bit
less.


But has to pay the immense cost of deciding what they will pay
for, what they wont, for the advertising to get people to use them,
and the profit. That all DOUBLES the cost of medical services.


No reason it should be any different than a supermarket.


Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.

There's a reason the US system costs twice as much per person as
all the other non insurance systems and gets a worse result in the
measures that matter like infant mortality and years in good health.
The second most expensive is switzerland and its insurance too.

But at least Americans get to choose their level of healthcare.

They dont actually because the premiums are so outrageous.

Bull****, many Americans buy their own.


**** all do, they get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.


Pretty stupid to do it that way.


They cant afford to pay for it themselves.

I'd prefer to get the full wage paid to me then choose my own healthcare.


You wouldnt be able to afford the premium.

They get stuck with what their employer chooses to pay for.

And when their medical costs are the highest, at the end of
their lives, they have their equivalent of the NHS, Medicare.

That's the ones in council estates.


They dont have council estates.


They must have something similar.


Nope

Where do all their dropouts live?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhy3zI3wvAo

Way too much. Anyone needing £300 a month in doctors

Thats nothing even remotely like the average.

What do you think it is?

You made that stupid claim...

Yet you have no idea what you think it is instead.

Wrong, as always.

Then tell me what you think the average is.

There is no average. Its impossible to separate
what individual taxpayers pay from the other
tax revenue like company tax etc and while
the individuals do indirectly pay the company
tax in the prices they pay for goods and services,
what they spend on those varys very dramatically;

It's very easy to find the total amount the NHS costs to run. Divide
that
by the working population and you have the cost to the average taxpayer.


Nope, because most of the cost of the NHS isnt coming
from the average taxpayer.


Even worse, it's coming from the rich,


Wrong, as always.

which means some are paying more than £300 a month.


Not for the NHS they arent.

should be put out of their misery.

Yep, you should have been executed by lethal injection.

I agree. No point wasting money curing the uncurable.

So top yourself because thats what you are.

I'd only mess it up and cost the taxpayer money in care.

Bull****. Even you can hang yourself.

That doesn't sound comfortable, I think I'd go for drowning.

Thats not comfortable either.

It would be very quick. Perfectly fine until you're short of breath,
then
you'd pass out in half a minute or so.


Just as true of hanging yourself.


If done correctly.


Even you should be able to keep trying until you get it right.

And they paid for your education too.

While I was being educated, my parents were paying the taxes
for
that.

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket
scientist completely unemployable ****wits ?

You quite sure you aren't misunderstanding the 4th dimension? I
can't
pay for something that happened in the past.

Corse you can, its called a debt, stupid.

A debt for 30 years?

Common with a mortgage, stupid.

Pretty daft for an entity as large as the government to borrow
money.

Not when they get the bums rush when they tax so they dont have to.

Only stupid voters go for governments who increase the national debt.

Clearly the bulk of the voters must be stupid then.

Well since 50% of the population only have a 2 digit IQ by
definition....


Thats not stupid, stupid.


Below 100 IQ is very very stupid indeed.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and thats saying
something.

How stupid of the government.

The debt for the napoleonic wars still hasnt been paid off
and that was a ****ing sight more than 30 years ago.

And paid your mortgage when you got the bums rush, again.

Not much of it.

Far more than you ever pay in taxes.

Bull****.

Fact.

Nope,

Yep.

Interest only, and only for a certain number of months.

They should have given you nothing.

So you've changed to right wing now.

Never changed at all.


Either you agree with having an NHS, which makes you left wing,


Nope, just someone with enough of a clue to realise that HALVING
the total medical costs makes sense, particularly when doing it like
that get a better result on the measures that matter like infant
mortality and years in good health as well.


I don't want medical care at all.


You have always been, and always will be, completely and
utterly irrelevant. What you may or may not want in spades.

I want to pay IF I need it.


You have always been, and always will be, completely and
utterly irrelevant. What you may or may not want in spades.

You wouldnt be able to pay for it when you need it.

The NHS is forced medical insurance.


Nope, you are free to never use it.

Forced is wrong.


Even sillier than you usually manage and thats saying something.

or you agree I shouldn't have been given mortgage assistance, which
makes
you right wing.


Doesnt do that either.

Pick one.


It aint that binary.


So what you're saying is you don't have a clue if you're left or right?


Nope, I am saying that it aint that binary.

Just now you were saying how wonderful the NHS is.

Never said that either. I JUST rubbed your stupid nose
in the FACT that doing it that way costs HALF as much
as a pure insurance system and delivers a better result
in the measures that matter, infant mortality and years
in good health.


The NHS is ****ing pathetic at curing anything,


BULL****.


I'll widen my statement. The entire human race is **** at curing things.


Must be why we hardly ever die of infectious disease anymore.

Must be why most of us no longer see some of
our kids die before they become adults anymore.

Take your car to the garage, it gets fixed, they find out what's wrong in
an hour.


Must be why you had to dump that frog **** in frogland.

Must be why they fixed that flattening of the battery
every night in that current piece of frog **** in an hour.

Take yourself to a doctor and they say it could be one of 50 things,


No doctor has ever said that to me.

try this drug and see what happens.


Didnt happen like that with my heart attack.

most die in 6 month+ waiting lists.


BULL****.


It isn't,


Corse it is.

go look it up.


Dont need to.

I had to wait 9 months just to see a cardiologist for simple tests.


Bull**** you did.

Even if you don't pay income tax, you still pay fuel duty and VAT.

And dont even come close to paying what you cost them.

Fuel duty alone costs me a fortune. It's more than the fuel itself!

Because you are actually stupid enough to 'live' in that steaming
turd
of
a country.

I was born here unfortunately.

But have always been free to leave.

I will not become an immigrunt.


Only the EU is actually stupid enough to let you move there.


We're leaving that left wing ********.


But you are still free to move there before 29-Oct

At least I don't have to deal with sexes of inanimate objects like the
French and Germans.

You're free to keep using english there and are free
to move there before 29-Oct too.


Sure?


Yep.

We're chucking them all out,


Nope, not chucking any out in fact.


Non-brits are getting thrown out left right and centre.


Wrong, as always.

aren't they doing the same to us?


Nope.


That's because we're more desirable than those smelly Europeans.


Wrong, as always.

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outside of class time.

You just claimed the opposite.

My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the
sensible
ones do this.

Thats bull**** with marking and preparation.


They get free periods


Like hell they do with primary school teachers.


Not required, since teaching someone that young doesn't require a lot of effort. Think of the simple things they're learning.

and lunchbreaks for marking.


Thats not what lunch breaks are for.


They're for whatever you want them to be. It's more efficient to eat while you work, then you get to go home early.

As for preparation, just teach it the same way as you did last year.


Not even possible when what gets taught and how its taught changes.


Doesn't happen every year. If it does that in your country, haven't they worked out they must be continually getting it wrong?

It really isn't hard to mark a few simple sums.


They might just teach more than a few simple sums, ****wit.


For example?

Look up what "no maybe about it" means.

My "maybe so" stated that your point is irrelevant to the discussion,

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage and thats saying something.

Don't interrupt.

Get ****ed.


Why do you feel the need to make your replies longer and longer by
inserting sentences in the middle of my paragraphs?


I comment on specific turds of yours, stupid.


No, you interrupt and repeat yourself over and over again, which is why 99% of the population won't even reply to you.

but it's clearly wrong to take £300 a month form the average
taxpayer.

They dont take £300 a month from the average taxpayer and give it
to
the
NHS

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/58...-going-to-rise

Says nothing about how much the average tax payer pays towards the
NHS,

"TAXPAYERS are coughing up nearly £5,000 a year each for the NHS".
It's
in the first ****ing paragraph you moron.

Thats not the AVERAGE TAXPAYER, ****wit.

And just because some ****wit journo claims something in some ****
rag...

Then you explain why taxes are stupidly high.

Because of the stupid stuff you fools get the govt to pay for.


I never asked them to pay for it.


You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant. What you may or may not have asked for in spades.

You may well not have asked for the roads you hoon around
on, but they have to be provided by someone anyway.


Everything should be provided by those who use it. I don't have kids, so I shouldn't pay for schools.

IF you want healthcare, get insurance, or take a risk and pay when
you
need it.

Stupid way to do things, that costs twice a much.

Why would it?

Because someone has to pay for the advertising, deciding what they
will
pay for and what they wont, and the profit the insurance company
makes.

Competition reduces prices

It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit.

It does with everything,

It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.

that's how competition works.

It clearly doesnt with medical insurance, ****wit. That
competition DOUBLES the cost of medical services.


Impossible.


Fact actually.


Yet again you've interrupted. Your childishness is beyond a joke, goodbye.
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outside of class time.

You just claimed the opposite.

My claim is that they CAN do **** all outside class time, and the
sensible
ones do this.

Thats bull**** with marking and preparation.

They get free periods


Like hell they do with primary school teachers.


Not required, since teaching someone that young doesn't require a lot of
effort.


Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage and thats saying
something.

Think of the simple things they're learning.


Yeah, like reading, ****wit.

And given that this mindless silly **** is the best you
can manage, here goes the chain on your even sillier
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