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Seeking higher security Sliding Doors
Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? Thanks
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Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Mine can't. After the sliding part is put on the track, you lower the wheels by inserting a screwdriver in a hole at the end of the door. That stops the bottom of the door being able to be moved out of the track until the wheels are raised again. The burglar can't get to those holes. The one closes to the lock can only be used once the door is unlocked and the other one can only be accessed from inside the house with the door locked. The fixed pane has a L bracket that is screwed into the track and the door panel. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? You can get pins that go thru the tracks and the bottom metal frame of the door from the inside which prevent the door from being lifted while the pins are in place. Not so convenient to use tho because they need to be removed before the door can be opened. And whatever you do securing the panes, the thief can just smash the glass. But you can get smashed glass sensors for alarm panels. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:16:56 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Mine can't. His obviously can, senile asshole! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? Thanks Look for a "filler strip" in the top track - makes it IMPOSSIBLE to lift the door in the closed position. |
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:16:56 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Mine can't. After the sliding part is put on the track, you lower the wheels by inserting a screwdriver in a hole at the end of the door. That stops the bottom of the door being able to be moved out of the track until the wheels are raised again. The burglar can't get to those holes. The one closes to the lock can only be used once the door is unlocked and the other one can only be accessed from inside the house with the door locked. The fixed pane has a L bracket that is screwed into the track and the door panel. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? You can get pins that go thru the tracks and the bottom metal frame of the door from the inside which prevent the door from being lifted while the pins are in place. Not so convenient to use tho because they need to be removed before the door can be opened. And whatever you do securing the panes, the thief can just smash the glass. But you can get smashed glass sensors for alarm panels. Good luck breaking mine. They are hurricane glass. They shoot 8' 2x4s at them at about 90-100 mph to test them. The doors weigh 285# each so even if they could, it is going to take a big guy to lift them out. |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? Thanks My Andersen 400s have a cleat inside that needs to be removed to tilt the door and get it off the track. The top rail barely clears the door. There is an after market fix tho. You cut a strip of wood or trex that fills the gap between the door and the top of the top rail. You have to open the door to remove the strip and the door will not lift off the track with it in place. And mine has a bloody great 1/2" dam post that the lock grabs which goes into the sliding pane frame when you close and lock the door so it isnt possible to raise that side of the door when its locked. |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:16:56 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Mine can't. After the sliding part is put on the track, you lower the wheels by inserting a screwdriver in a hole at the end of the door. That stops the bottom of the door being able to be moved out of the track until the wheels are raised again. The burglar can't get to those holes. The one closes to the lock can only be used once the door is unlocked and the other one can only be accessed from inside the house with the door locked. The fixed pane has a L bracket that is screwed into the track and the door panel. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? You can get pins that go thru the tracks and the bottom metal frame of the door from the inside which prevent the door from being lifted while the pins are in place. Not so convenient to use tho because they need to be removed before the door can be opened. And whatever you do securing the panes, the thief can just smash the glass. But you can get smashed glass sensors for alarm panels. Good luck breaking mine. They are hurricane glass. They shoot 8' 2x4s at them at about 90-100 mph to test them. When mine were first released in the very early 70s, with heat treated glass, the manufacturer had a video showing someone trying to break it with a sledge hammer, repeatedly, and failing. The will break with a sharp stone tho and shatter into countless small pieces. The doors weigh 285# each so even if they could, it is going to take a big guy to lift them out. Or a decent leaver. Easy enough to organise. |
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 21:33:57 -0600, rbowman wrote:
On 07/09/2019 08:51 PM, wrote: Good luck breaking mine. They are hurricane glass. They shoot 8' 2x4s at them at about 90-100 mph to test them. The doors weigh 285# each so even if they could, it is going to take a big guy to lift them out. Do they test them with an automatic center punch? You might break the outer layer of glass but the membranes inside would hold the glass together and you are probably not breaking the other layers. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 09 Jul 2019 23:32:20 -0400, micky
wrote: A broom stick A traditional wooden broom stick, not a metal broom stick. is about the right size, but look to see how much higher the top of the broom stick is than the top of the door was. (or how far it is from the top of the broom stick to the top of the channel) You don't have to cram it in, but it needs to be tall enough that one can no longer lift the door enough to take the door out. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:12:47 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:16:56 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Mine can't. After the sliding part is put on the track, you lower the wheels by inserting a screwdriver in a hole at the end of the door. That stops the bottom of the door being able to be moved out of the track until the wheels are raised again. The burglar can't get to those holes. The one closes to the lock can only be used once the door is unlocked and the other one can only be accessed from inside the house with the door locked. The fixed pane has a L bracket that is screwed into the track and the door panel. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? You can get pins that go thru the tracks and the bottom metal frame of the door from the inside which prevent the door from being lifted while the pins are in place. Not so convenient to use tho because they need to be removed before the door can be opened. And whatever you do securing the panes, the thief can just smash the glass. But you can get smashed glass sensors for alarm panels. Good luck breaking mine. They are hurricane glass. They shoot 8' 2x4s at them at about 90-100 mph to test them. When mine were first released in the very early 70s, with heat treated glass, the manufacturer had a video showing someone trying to break it with a sledge hammer, repeatedly, and failing. I bet he'd also have failed trying to do the same with your thick head, senile Rodent! -- Senile Rot about himself: "I was involved in the design of a computer OS" MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 13:08:55 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: And mine has a bloody great 1/2" dam post Are you talking about your brain, senile Rodent? -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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hi, for those of you who said you have shatter/storm/burglar resistant sliding doors, who makes them and what model?
I do actually use a metal security rod that fastens in place (version of the broom handle) ... but I dont know if that completely addresses the issue of thieves lifting the door out of the track Thanks |
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On 7/10/19 10:45 AM, wrote:
hi, for those of you who said you have shatter/storm/burglar resistant sliding doors, who makes them and what model? I do actually use a metal security rod that fastens in place (version of the broom handle) ... but I dont know if that completely addresses the issue of thieves lifting the door out of the track Thanks You might be able to keep kids out but ain't no match for Mr. Stihl. https://www.stihlusa.com/products/co...crete-cutters/ |
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Seeking higher security Sliding Doors
On 7/9/2019 6:59 PM, wrote:
Hi, I need to replace a sliding glass door on the back of my house. I know sliding doors can be lifted out of the track by a burglar. Are there any makes/models of sliding glass doors that offer higher security ? Thanks Use one of these https://www.homedepot.com/p/First-Wa...r+security+pin Use a wooden/metal bar, as many have suggested. Apply shatterproof film if glass is not already shatterproof. Attach/install an alarm system. Install video camera. The more you make it difficult for a thief, the faster he'll move on to the next victim. They want easy and will not waste time on a home that isn't. |
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:57:20 -0400, Gunnar Hansen
wrote: On 7/10/19 10:45 AM, wrote: hi, for those of you who said you have shatter/storm/burglar resistant sliding doors, who makes them and what model? I do actually use a metal security rod that fastens in place (version of the broom handle) ... but I dont know if that completely addresses the issue of thieves lifting the door out of the track Thanks You might be able to keep kids out but ain't no match for Mr. Stihl. https://www.stihlusa.com/products/co...crete-cutters/ Make that much noise and you will be talking to Mr Winchester. It will be a one way conversation. |
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On 7/10/19 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 10:57:20 -0400, Gunnar Hansen wrote: On 7/10/19 10:45 AM, wrote: hi, for those of you who said you have shatter/storm/burglar resistant sliding doors, who makes them and what model? I do actually use a metal security rod that fastens in place (version of the broom handle) ... but I dont know if that completely addresses the issue of thieves lifting the door out of the track Thanks You might be able to keep kids out but ain't no match for Mr. Stihl. https://www.stihlusa.com/products/co...crete-cutters/ Make that much noise and you will be talking to Mr Winchester. It will be a one way conversation. Liberal sissies don't know Mr. Winchester.Â* Put on a hard hat, face shield and a safety orange vest and no one would think twice. |
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