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I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire.
I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy |
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On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ |
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A K wrote
I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. |
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On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 2:37:16 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Nobody said anything about "house wire" but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. The crimped connections done with the proper tools I'm trying to think of an application where I would solder #10 wire. Certainly I've never done it. We did a generator install at work where the ground wires had to be thermit welded, that was interesting. |
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wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. |
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On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:05:16 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. Why do you waste your time arguing with the troll? I must admit, I've made the same mistake, but if we all stopped replying to his trolls, maybe he'd disappear like that other AH Burpfart? |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. It can't be as much of a downside as having you around, you self-opinionated self-important senile asshole! -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH more of the senile asshole's usual troll**** -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. Nope, the downside with house wiring is that the wire will survive short term overload well when not soldered but you can get the solder softening in that situation. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. That's bull**** too. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. But they arent the 10 - 22 gauge wire being discussed. |
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"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:05:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. Why do you waste your time arguing with the troll? I must admit, I've made the same mistake, but if we all stopped replying to his trolls, maybe he'd disappear like that other AH Burpfart? You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. |
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On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:10:58 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. Nope, the downside with house wiring is that the wire will survive short term overload well when not soldered but you can get the solder softening in that situation. If that splice gets above 600f you have far worse problems than soft solder. They made a solid mechanical splice before it was soldered. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. You are simply unaware of the fact that electricians carried solder pots and dipped every splice. Maybe they just didn't have electricity in Australia before WWII when this was a common practice. That's bull**** too. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. But they arent the 10 - 22 gauge wire being discussed. Never looked inside a PC power supply I guess. |
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On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:12:31 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:05:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. Why do you waste your time arguing with the troll? I must admit, I've made the same mistake, but if we all stopped replying to his trolls, maybe he'd disappear like that other AH Burpfart? You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. OTOH your bull**** could penetrate Kevlar. |
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A K posted for all of us...
I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy I think we would like to see what you were actually trying to accomplish. There are many types/brands of connectors, soldering is old fashioned depending on application. -- Tekkie |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:12:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Why do you waste your time arguing with the troll? I must admit, I've made the same mistake, but if we all stopped replying to his trolls, maybe he'd disappear like that other AH Burpfart? You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. YOU certainly KEEP bull****ting your way FAST into your grave, you clinically insane 85-year-old troll! -- "Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed: "You can **** off as you know less than pig **** you sad little ignorant ****." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:10:58 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. Nope, the downside with house wiring is that the wire will survive short term overload well when not soldered but you can get the solder softening in that situation. Not really, senile asshole! It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. That's bull**** too. That's what your senile old head keeps producing galore, every day! -- Norman Wells addressing senile Rot: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:10:58 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. Nope, the downside with house wiring is that the wire will survive short term overload well when not soldered but you can get the solder softening in that situation. If that splice gets above 600f you have far worse problems than soft solder. Not if it only does that for a short time. They made a solid mechanical splice before it was soldered. Irrelevant to what the OP may do. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. You are simply unaware of the fact that electricians carried solder pots and dipped every splice. That was never as absolute as that, particularly with the street cabling. Maybe they just didn't have electricity in Australia before WWII when this was a common practice. Corse we did and it was never common practice with the street cabling. That's bull**** too. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. But they arent the 10 - 22 gauge wire being discussed. Never looked inside a PC power supply I guess. Guess again. That isnt wave soldered. |
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wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 06:12:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:05:16 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2019 04:53:14 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: wrote in message news On Thu, 2 May 2019 03:53:00 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: A K wrote I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Soldering house wiring has real downsides. Nobody said anything about "house wire" Never said they did. I was JUST pointing out that soldering has downsides with house wire. Mostly labor. It used to be the standard until they came up with easier/faster methods. but soldering any kind of wire is in decline. Irrelevant to the comment I made. The crimped connections done with the proper tools seems better. The only place where you see a lot of soldering going on is on board manufacture where they can "wave solder". Not with WIRES. Wire leads inserted into boards are wave soldered. Why do you waste your time arguing with the troll? I must admit, I've made the same mistake, but if we all stopped replying to his trolls, maybe he'd disappear like that other AH Burpfart? You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. OTOH your bull**** could penetrate Kevlar. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 2 May 2019 08:03:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. OTOH your bull**** could penetrate Kevlar. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. You certainly KEEP bull****ting your way FAST into your grave, you clinically insane senile cretin! -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rot: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
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On Thu, 2 May 2019 08:02:50 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: If that splice gets above 600f you have far worse problems than soft solder. Not LOL Senile asshole! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-5, A K wrote:
I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. For what? |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:44:34 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
A K posted for all of us... I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy I think we would like to see what you were actually trying to accomplish. There are many types/brands of connectors, soldering is old fashioned depending on application. -- Tekkie I mostly solder electronic parts. Certainly necessary and not old fashioned.. Andy |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy |
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On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-4, Davej wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-5, A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. For what? Indeed. That would be a very good question, before you can correctly give an answer. |
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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 8:12:02 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-4, Davej wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-5, A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. For what? Indeed. That would be a very good question, before you can correctly give an answer. I am going to make a guess at the answer. I don't know any hobby where it is common to solder 10 - 22 wire. BUT! If it's a typo and he meant 18 - 22 wire, and specifically talks about blade type connectors, then he's probably just doing automotive. And he's right, the cheapo connectors available can be a problem. |
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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 8:27:24 AM UTC-5, TimR wrote:
On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 8:12:02 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-4, Davej wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-5, A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. For what? Indeed. That would be a very good question, before you can correctly give an answer. I am going to make a guess at the answer. I don't know any hobby where it is common to solder 10 - 22 wire. BUT! If it's a typo and he meant 18 - 22 wire, and specifically talks about blade type connectors, then he's probably just doing automotive. And he's right, the cheapo connectors available can be a problem. 18-22 gauge wire is common in electronic projects. I am currently making a laser alarm. This is the laser part. "https://www.dropbox.com/s/adb0tzuatponszl/20190503_103833.jpg?dl=0" |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. |
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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 11:56:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. When I was working on my daughter's old Volvo, I bought a really good crimper. That turned out to be one of the smarter things I've done. Yeah, you can kinda sorta get a crimp with various pliers or cheap crimpers, but the real tool makes a world of difference. It was expensive in dollars but priceless in lack of frustration. |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 03:56:18 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:44:34 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote: A K posted for all of us... I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy I think we would like to see what you were actually trying to accomplish. There are many types/brands of connectors, soldering is old fashioned depending on application. -- Tekkie I mostly solder electronic parts. Certainly necessary and not old fashioned. Andy Soldering terminals to flexible cable is pretty much frowned upon these days. Certainly not acceptable in avionics or instrumentation. |
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On Fri, 03 May 2019 18:58:44 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 03:56:18 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 3:44:34 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote: A K posted for all of us... I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy I think we would like to see what you were actually trying to accomplish. There are many types/brands of connectors, soldering is old fashioned depending on application. -- Tekkie I mostly solder electronic parts. Certainly necessary and not old fashioned. Andy Soldering terminals to flexible cable is pretty much frowned upon these days. Certainly not acceptable in avionics or instrumentation. That is why they wave solder wires to boards. The wire is not in the solder long enough to wick up. |
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On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. I have a real crimper but the connectors do not compare to soldering. Just today I had a wire pull out of a connection that used a blade connector. Andy |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 8:12:02 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-4, Davej wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-5, A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. For what? Indeed. That would be a very good question, before you can correctly give an answer. I am going to make a guess at the answer. I don't know any hobby where it is common to solder 10 - 22 wire. BUT! If it's a typo and he meant 18 - 22 wire, and specifically talks about blade type connectors, then he's probably just doing automotive. And he's right, the cheapo connectors available can be a problem. a proper crimp connector, finished off with shrink tube works fine. Thise cheap pre-insulated crimp connectoes are basically crap. You need a "proper" crimping tool to do the job right with the non-insulated crimps too. There are insulated crimp connectors that work well with ptoper crimpers too - they have a shrink sleave on them. Most also have a low temperature solder bead in them as well. The Philips Sta-Dri system is very good if used as directed. NTE is another supplier (available through Summit Racing) NationalStandardPartsAssociates" Sealed Crimp" connectors are also good. ANything with a butted seam barrel is "basically junk" - a brazed seam connector is a quality connector that can be crimped to solid or stranded wire. If you just need butt connectors Tyco Gardner Bender makes "solder grip" butt connectors and they are available from Home Despot in the USA but not in Canada (what else in new?) They are, however,APPARENTLY available at some Canadian Tire stores. They install with a heat gun. |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. I have a real crimper but the connectors do not compare to soldering. Just today I had a wire pull out of a connection that used a blade connector. Andy Something was not right. You either did not have the right terminal for the wire size or it was not properly crimped. (Tool or procedure). Normally a properly made crimp will hold until the wire breaks. |
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On Fri, 3 May 2019 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. I have a real crimper but the connectors do not compare to soldering. Just today I had a wire pull out of a connection that used a blade connector. Andy A wire will not pull ot of a quality connector crimped with the proper "real" crimper, They form a gas-tight crimp that virtually "welds" the connector to the wire. |
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On Fri, 03 May 2019 21:37:19 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. I have a real crimper but the connectors do not compare to soldering. Just today I had a wire pull out of a connection that used a blade connector. Andy A wire will not pull ot of a quality connector crimped with the proper "real" crimper, They form a gas-tight crimp that virtually "welds" the connector to the wire. This usually happens when the terminal is rated for bigger wire than you are using or you didn't get a good crimp. IBM stopped soldering terminals in the early 60s. We did have different crimpers for different manufacturer's terminals. They pretty much settled in on AMP tho. |
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On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 12:06:20 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 03 May 2019 21:37:19 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 16:16:56 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2019 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 8:51:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Wed, 1 May 2019 06:29:05 -0700 (PDT), A K wrote: I mainly work with 10 - 22 gauge wire. I have been using the blade type connectors, but they are a bit klunky to attach. Is there anything better that I can solder my wires to? Thanks, Andy https://www.mouser.com/new/TE-Connec...te-mate-n-lok/ Thanks. Took a while weeding thru some posters with anger problems. :-) Andy There are other competitive connector systems but it is usually best to pick one and use it for most of your projects because you will end up with a collection of common connectors and tools. Crimps really do seem superior with these types of connections but you need a real crimper. I have a real crimper but the connectors do not compare to soldering. Just today I had a wire pull out of a connection that used a blade connector. Andy A wire will not pull ot of a quality connector crimped with the proper "real" crimper, They form a gas-tight crimp that virtually "welds" the connector to the wire. This usually happens when the terminal is rated for bigger wire than you are using or you didn't get a good crimp. IBM stopped soldering terminals in the early 60s. We did have different crimpers for different manufacturer's terminals. They pretty much settled in on AMP tho. Thanks for the info. I do think I used thinner wire that the connector called for. May have been 20 gauge wire in a 14-16 connector. I use this type of crimper. "https://www.walmart.com/ip/Boston-Industrial-Insulated-Wire-Terminals-and-Connectors-Assortment-with-3-in-1-Wire-Stripper-Cutter-and-Crimper-Tool-175-Piece-Set/469426815" |
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On Sat, 4 May 2019 15:01:25 -0700 (PDT), A K
wrote: I do think I used thinner wire that the connector called for. May have been 20 gauge wire in a 14-16 connector. That will do it. There is too much metal on the terminal to get squeezed down tight on the smaller wire. |
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