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It finally happened !
After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and
making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left! I think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! |
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On 12/4/2018 8:59 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left!Â* I think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! And, to reply to my own post, Thunderbird seems to have lost all my filters. I suppose I could get them from my November 1 backup. |
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"Art Todesco" wrote
| After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and | making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left! I | think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! I gave up some years ago and just stopped by recently, in case anyone might need real help. But it's got much worse than I remember it. It's not just the junk posters. It's also the regulars going off-topic, bickering about politics, and competing over who knows more handyman trivia. It's a shame. Usenet is such a great resource, but a handful of tech newsgroups are pretty much the only ones I visit anymore. For reasons I don't understand, most people are far more likely to post to commercial websites that are difficult to read and require membership. I was recently reading Reddit for the first time because I wanted to follow a particular issue. What a mess that is! Lots of people who just want to argue or say their piece. And the site supports it by allowing posts to be "upvoted". It's discussion by mob rule. At least on usenet there are no moderators and no "voting". (Where there are moderators, such as the Mozilla groups, the group itself ends up being little more than a marketing channel for the product. Say something critical in a Mozilla group and it probably won't even show up.) |
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On 12/4/2018 8:59 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left!Â* I think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! I just looked at my filter log in TB which was cleared yesterday and now contains over 100 messages filtered. There is still some good stuff here and it is not as bad as some other groups. |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 09:07:35 -0500, Art Todesco
wrote in On 12/4/2018 8:59 AM, Art Todesco wrote: After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left!* I think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! And, to reply to my own post, Thunderbird seems to have lost all my filters. I suppose I could get them from my November 1 backup. I think this NG is still worth reading. True, about 90% of the posts are OT junk, but when you get Tbird filtering again you'll eliminate most of the junk. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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It finally happened !
Starting last night I've been getting dozens of emails "post in violation of terms-of-service canceled by Sir Cancelot. What's going on with that?
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On 12/4/2018 9:08 AM, Mayayana wrote:
"Art Todesco" wrote | After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and | making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left! I | think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! I gave up some years ago and just stopped by recently, in case anyone might need real help. But it's got much worse than I remember it. It's not just the junk posters. It's also the regulars going off-topic, bickering about politics, and competing over who knows more handyman trivia. (I also gave up.) You used to be one of the most interesting people. In addition to the general crap, this group recently picked up some UK posters with some of the posts (like UK electrical) totally irrelevant here. It's a shame. Usenet is such a great resource, but a handful of tech newsgroups are pretty much the only ones I visit anymore. For reasons I don't understand, most people are far more likely to post to commercial websites that are difficult to read and require membership. Found anything interesting (that you would want to share here)? |
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"bud--" wrote
| | You used to be one of the most interesting people. | Thanks. Nice to be remembered. | Found anything interesting (that you would want to share here)? In terms of newsgroups? Not really. I'm a contractor who also does web design and writes Windows software. So I frequent the Windows and programming groups. There seems to be one, barely functional group left for each Windows version. Some years ago Microsoft stopped supporting their usenet groups. They still exist but most people took Microsoft's lead and moved to their webpage- based, moderated forum, which is little more than a marketing venue. But the Windows people, for whatever reason, have always tended to be considerate, so the groups function pretty well. Then I also go to a vbscript and vb6 groups for programming chat, which are leftover Microsoft groups. Recently I went to a webmasters group to ask a question. The posts were all junk, but a serious question brought knowledgeable people out of the woodwork. For most other things I just do searches. For instance, car repair. I can find youtube videos and commercial groups, and often I find the answer I need there. Last year I needed to tile a threshold, with a mud bed, and had never done that before. I found videos to help on youtube. More recently I've had an odd tire sound that I can't figure out. I found someone who had posted a video. It was exactly the same sound. But no one in the group had come up with an answer. For anything else, civility seems to be long gone. Religion, philosophy, politics.... I don't even bother to look at usenet for those topics. And private groups tend to have a pecking order of wiseacres who are comfortably settled in. I guess usenet also has that, but on usenet they have no power. |
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On 12/4/18 3:13 PM, bud-- wrote:
On 12/4/2018 9:08 AM, Mayayana wrote: "Art Todesco" wrote | After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and | making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left!Â* I | think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! Â*Â*Â* I gave up some years ago and just stopped by recently, in case anyone might need real help. But it's got much worse than I remember it. It's not just the junk posters. It's also the regulars going off-topic, bickering about politics, and competing over who knows more handyman trivia. (I also gave up.) You used to be one of the most interesting people. In addition to the general crap, this group recently picked up some UK posters with some of the posts (like UK electrical) totally irrelevant here. I like reading how things are done in other places. One never knows when a stray idea from somewhere will come in handy. There was a good tv show years ago illustrating how odd ideas from different places and times would combine to make something. The host would start the show maybe sitting in a modern sports car, then go through the things that had to combine to make the car. It took me a couple minutes to remember. The show was Connections hosted by James Burke. It looks like at least some of the episodes are on Youtube if you're interested. |
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On 12/4/2018 9:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/4/18 3:13 PM, bud-- wrote: On 12/4/2018 9:08 AM, Mayayana wrote: "Art Todesco" wrote | After years of reading this NG, and reading all the junk here, and | making filter after filter in Thunderbird, there is nothing left!Â* I | think I filtered everything to the point that the NG is now pointless! Â*Â*Â* I gave up some years ago and just stopped by recently, in case anyone might need real help. But it's got much worse than I remember it. It's not just the junk posters. It's also the regulars going off-topic, bickering about politics, and competing over who knows more handyman trivia. (I also gave up.) You used to be one of the most interesting people. In addition to the general crap, this group recently picked up some UK posters with some of the posts (like UK electrical) totally irrelevant here. Â*Â*Â*Â* I like reading how things are done in other places.Â* One never knows when a stray idea from somewhere will come in handy. There was a good tv show years ago illustrating how odd ideas from different places and times would combine to make something.Â*Â* The host would start the show maybe sitting in a modern sports car,Â* then go through the things that had to combine to make the car. Â*Â* It took me a couple minutes to remember.Â*Â* The show was Connections hosted by James Burke.Â* It looks like at least some of the episodes are on Youtube if you're interested. That was a great show. Perfume atomizer led to the carburetor was one story. |
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On 12/04/2018 08:08 AM, Mayayana wrote:
It's a shame. Usenet is such a great resource, but a handful of tech newsgroups are pretty much the only ones I visit anymore. For reasons I don't understand, most people are far more likely to post to commercial websites that are difficult to read and require membership. I gave up on the tech newsgroups a long time ago. Ones like the C group turned into script kiddies and C fundamentalists bickering. Ask a question and someone was sure to tell you it wasn't really a question about C and please screw off. Unless you're a complete newbie there really aren't that many questions about the C language itself. |
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