On Tuesday, March 18, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Pete Sharbo wrote:
I'm planning to paint a 10 year old textured living room ceiling that
has some dark stains showing under the rafters. I have been advised to
cover the stains with a product such as Kilz before I paint but my
questions is, why can't I paint the entire ceiling with Kilz and leave
it at that? Do I need to cover the Kilz with a separate coat of paint?

On 11/29/2018 10:53 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 18, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Pete Sharbo wrote:
I'm planning to paint a 10 year old textured living room ceiling that
has some dark stains showing under the rafters. I have been advised to
cover the stains with a product such as Kilz before I paint but my
questions is, why can't I paint the entire ceiling with Kilz and leave
it at that? Do I need to cover the Kilz with a separate coat of paint?


Kilz is a great stain blocker but is not meant to be a finished paint.
If you like the looks, fine, the Paint Police won't come to inspect
unless reported.

This is probably a better idea
https://www.kilz.com/paint/kilz-ceiling

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:38:38 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/29/2018 10:53 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 18, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Pete Sharbo wrote:
I'm planning to paint a 10 year old textured living room ceiling that
has some dark stains showing under the rafters. I have been advised to
cover the stains with a product such as Kilz before I paint but my
questions is, why can't I paint the entire ceiling with Kilz and leave
it at that? Do I need to cover the Kilz with a separate coat of paint?


Kilz is a great stain blocker but is not meant to be a finished paint.
If you like the looks, fine, the Paint Police won't come to inspect
unless reported.

This is probably a better idea
https://www.kilz.com/paint/kilz-ceiling
+1
Kilz primer, if applied heavily enough to give good opacity and
coverage, tends to have a gloss to it.

Generally oin a ceiling, particularly textured, you want the paint
finish to be FLAT.

Personally I like the ceiling surface FLAT too - but I'm not going to
scrape avery ceiling in my house to acheive that.

I like the stuff that goes on pink or blue and dries white - makes it
a lot easier to get full coverage on the ceiling in one coat.

On 11/29/2018 12:03 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:


Personally I like the ceiling surface FLAT too - but I'm not going to
scrape avery ceiling in my house to acheive that.

Neither am I. My wife did it.

We had the horrid popcorn ceilings when we moved in.

wrote

| I'm planning to paint a 10 year old textured living room ceiling that
| has some dark stains showing under the rafters. I have been advised to
| cover the stains with a product such as Kilz before I paint but my
| questions is, why can't I paint the entire ceiling with Kilz and leave
| it at that? Do I need to cover the Kilz with a separate coat of paint?
|

Kilz will have an uneven sheen, though if you use
the water-base type it might be OK.

I would question whether you even need it. Are you
sure you actually have stains? If you have gray shadows
at rafter locations that's probably due to poor or no
insulation. That area gets colder, moisture condenses,
moisture picks up dust/soot. You see a gray shadow.
You may see darker spots where drywall screws are
located. That can just be painted over. It's not a stain.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:22:48 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

wrote

| I'm planning to paint a 10 year old textured living room ceiling that
| has some dark stains showing under the rafters. I have been advised to
| cover the stains with a product such as Kilz before I paint but my
| questions is, why can't I paint the entire ceiling with Kilz and leave
| it at that? Do I need to cover the Kilz with a separate coat of paint?
|

Kilz will have an uneven sheen, though if you use
the water-base type it might be OK.

I would question whether you even need it. Are you
sure you actually have stains? If you have gray shadows
at rafter locations that's probably due to poor or no
insulation. That area gets colder, moisture condenses,
moisture picks up dust/soot. You see a gray shadow.
You may see darker spots where drywall screws are
located. That can just be painted over. It's not a stain.

Correct on both points - untill you get enough on to get full opacity
as I noted before. The stuff is more or less transluscent as it is not
designed as a "finish" - but I have used it, un-covered - with pretty
decent results with about 4 or 5 good coats. It then has a gloss
somewhere between semigloss and satin - definitely too "shiny" for a
textured ceiling.- at least in my opinion. (but then I'm just a dumb
Canuk who needs the last word, according to at leat one yankee
backwoods hick)

On 11/29/2018 10:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/29/2018 12:03 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:


Personally I like the ceiling surface FLAT too - but I'm not going to
scrape avery ceiling in my house to acheive that.

Neither am I. My wife did it.

We had the horrid popcorn ceilings when we moved in.

You haven't lived until you've painted a tin ceiling but it beats
asbestos flavored popcorn. Hey, it sounded like a good idea at the time.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 21:28:07 -0700, rbowman
wrote:

On 11/29/2018 10:20 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 11/29/2018 12:03 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:


Personally I like the ceiling surface FLAT too - but I'm not going to
scrape avery ceiling in my house to acheive that.

Neither am I. My wife did it.

We had the horrid popcorn ceilings when we moved in.

You haven't lived until you've painted a tin ceiling but it beats
asbestos flavored popcorn. Hey, it sounded like a good idea at the time.


If yopu are going to paint a tin ceiling you REALLY want an airless
sprayer - - - - - -

Clare Snyder posted for all of us...


(but then I'm just a dumb
Canuk who needs the last word, according to at leat one yankee
backwoods hick)



I resemble that remark.

--
Tekkie

Tekkie® wrote:
Clare Snyder posted for all of us...


(but then I'm just a dumb
Canuk who needs the last word, according to at leat one yankee
backwoods hick)



I resemble that remark.

Don't feel too bad, he can't even spell Canuck....LOL : )