I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

On 9/6/2018 8:37 PM, Nil wrote:
I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?


It is naptha. You can use it in the lawnmower but since gas has
additives, I'd mix it so you have the benefits of the additives if needed.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:37:20 -0400, Nil
wrote:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

Short answer, no
This came up in the 70s when gas was hard to come by and it was never
advised as something to do, I suppose if you used it a pint a tankful
you might away with it tho.
This is more like naphtha than gas.

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:37:20 -0400, Nil
wrote:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

Short answer, no
This came up in the 70s when gas was hard to come by and it was never
advised as something to do, I suppose if you used it a pint a tankful
you might away with it tho.
This is more like naphtha than gas.


FWIW, I used unleaded gas in a Coleman stove a long time ago. It
seemed to work fine. Maybe the Coleman product burns cleaner due
to fewer additives?

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:40:37 -0400, Bill wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:37:20 -0400, Nil
wrote:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

Short answer, no
This came up in the 70s when gas was hard to come by and it was never
advised as something to do, I suppose if you used it a pint a tankful
you might away with it tho.
This is more like naphtha than gas.


FWIW, I used unleaded gas in a Coleman stove a long time ago. It
seemed to work fine. Maybe the Coleman product burns cleaner due
to fewer additives?
I've run the stuff in a lawnmower engine. I'd mix it about 25% with
unleaded gasoline

On 9/6/2018 8:47 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
....

I've run the stuff in a lawnmower engine. I'd mix it about 25% with
unleaded gasoline

W/ an engine that's never run leaded, probably ok, years ago in days
before unleaded neighbor borrowed my lawnmower and dumped a bunch of
Coleman fuel in it...it dissolved all the lead accumulated deposits and
completely coated the inner workings with the remnants--trashed the
engine completely.

Even w/ new I'd dilute it 10:1 or greater to get rid of it.

--

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:24:12 -0500, dpb wrote:

Even w/ new I'd dilute it 10:1 or greater to get rid of it.

On a sort of related note, does anyone know what should be done with a few
tankfuls of fuel oil which have been mixed with 2-stroke oil?

(During the last few years before my Dad was 'put into' a home, he made a
few such mistakes.)

On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 02:31:15 +0000, Mike_Duffy
wrote:

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 21:24:12 -0500, dpb wrote:

Even w/ new I'd dilute it 10:1 or greater to get rid of it.

On a sort of related note, does anyone know what should be done with a few
tankfuls of fuel oil which have been mixed with 2-stroke oil?

(During the last few years before my Dad was 'put into' a home, he made a
few such mistakes.)
just burn it.50:1 2 stroke oil in fuel oil (furnace or diesel) isn't
going to hurt anything

On 9/6/2018 5:37 PM, Nil wrote:
I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?


I would just take it in a disposable container to my local Haz-Waste site.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:19:20 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:


just burn it.50:1 2 stroke oil in fuel oil (furnace or diesel) isn't
going to hurt anything

I'm a bit leary about soot build-up in the flue, or fouling the ignitor.

On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:37:20 -0400, Nil
wrote:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

Why throw it in the trash. Give it to someone, sell it for 50 cents at a
rummage sale, or whatever. People still use it.

But yes, it's naptha, and naptha is a great octane booster. The old
racing cars in the 1950s thru 70s used it to boost power. I know this
for fact. In the late 70's I acquired about 5 gallons of it. My early
70's Chevy had a carburetor and I was told it was safe to use on that
engine. I added a half gallon of the naptha to 10 gallons of gas, and I
was impressed by the extra power I got. It also did a good job of
cleaning out the bore in my carb, and I suspect it cleaned the whole
engine and fuel system.

I am not sure what it would do to a modern fuel injected computerized
engine, so I would hesitate to try it, But if I had an old car with a
carb, I'd use it without worry.

You only have a quart, Add about 2 ounces to a gallon of gas for your
lawnmower and seee if the mower goes faster....

If i see a lawn mower flying across the horizon, with a tail of flame in
back, I'll know you added the whole quart and went airborne.

Naptha is also a good solvent for some oil based paints as well as a
paintbrush cleaner for them.

On 9/6/18 8:37 PM, Nil wrote:
I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?


Chuck it, unless you're a gambling man ;-)

--
A gun is a lot like a parachute. If you need one and dont have one,
youll probably never need one again.

On 9/7/2018 12:06 AM, Mike_Duffy wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:19:20 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:


just burn it.50:1 2 stroke oil in fuel oil (furnace or diesel) isn't
going to hurt anything

I'm a bit leary about soot build-up in the flue, or fouling the ignitor.

Not a real concern, especially if well diluted in the oil tank.

On 09/06/2018 09:39 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 9/6/2018 5:37 PM, Nil wrote:
I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?


I would just take it in a disposable container to my local Haz-Waste site.

Typical Democrat; pass your problems on to someone else.

On 06 Sep 2018, Bob F wrote in
alt.home.repair:

I would just take it in a disposable container to my local
Haz-Waste site.

My town holds a few hazardous waste disposal day in October. If I
haven't disposed of it by then I'll take it there, along with some
other nasty stuff I have hanging around like old paint and obsolete
anti-freeze.

On 9/7/2018 1:45 PM, Nil wrote:
On 06 Sep 2018, Bob F wrote in
alt.home.repair:

I would just take it in a disposable container to my local
Haz-Waste site.

My town holds a few hazardous waste disposal day in October. If I
haven't disposed of it by then I'll take it there, along with some
other nasty stuff I have hanging around like old paint and obsolete
anti-freeze.


Why waste these things?

Naphtha can be added to any gasoline based product if diluted or used as
paint thinner or brush cleaner. I've even used it to make Ed's Red gun
cleaner.

I never heard of obsolete antifreeze. Even saved used could be used in
the winter to help prevent drain traps freezing.

On 06 Sep 2018, Bill wrote in
alt.home.repair:

FWIW, I used unleaded gas in a Coleman stove a long time ago. It
seemed to work fine. Maybe the Coleman product burns cleaner due
to fewer additives?

I used an Optimus camp stove for decades and I always ran it on
unleaded gas. I had to clean out the pinhole spout occasionally, but it
never failed me. I have a newer, lighter, more modern stove now, not
Coleman brand, I think. That must be what I bought the fuel for, though
I don't remember actually doing that.

My backpacking days are probably over, and if they're not I'll get some
fresh fuel at that time. This can's gotta go.

On 06 Sep 2018, dpb wrote in alt.home.repair:

W/ an engine that's never run leaded, probably ok, years ago in
days before unleaded neighbor borrowed my lawnmower and dumped a
bunch of Coleman fuel in it...it dissolved all the lead
accumulated deposits and completely coated the inner workings with
the remnants--trashed the engine completely.

Even w/ new I'd dilute it 10:1 or greater to get rid of it.

I think this will be my solution. I'll just dump a few ounces of it in
my mower and car when filling the tank until the stuff is used up.

That is, plan of attack... I'm going to mix a few ounces of the Coleman
fuel in with each tank of regular unleaded gas in my lawn mower and car
until I use up the can. I probably have only one, maybe two mows left
this season, so I guess most of it will end up in the car.

I'm still not sure whether the fuel is naphtha or white gas, but from
the comments here and others I found on the web tell me that either
will burn reasonably OK in a gasoline engine.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


On 06 Sep 2018, Nil wrote in
alt.home.repair:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must
have been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled
"Peak 1 Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking
appliances." I can't find any reference to this model number on
the 'net. The can has no indication of what the actual composition
of the fuel is, whether it's naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or
whatever. The warnings on the back of the can include, "Do not use
this fuel as a fire starter, for cleaning purposes, or in
kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and "Handle with the
same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid of this stuff
if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be not a good
idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I can do
with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That
is, can I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

On 07 Sep 2018, Frank "frank wrote in alt.home.repair:

I never heard of obsolete antifreeze. Even saved used could be
used in the winter to help prevent drain traps freezing.

It's Dexcool. It can't be mixed with regular antifreeze and I don't
have that car any more.

I've never needed to prevent drain traps from freezing.

On 9/7/2018 1:45 PM, Nil wrote:
On 06 Sep 2018, Bob F wrote in
alt.home.repair:

I would just take it in a disposable container to my local
Haz-Waste site.

My town holds a few hazardous waste disposal day in October. If I
haven't disposed of it by then I'll take it there, along with some
other nasty stuff I have hanging around like old paint and obsolete
anti-freeze.


Old paint is easy. Take the lid off, let it harden, then toss in the
trash.

On 9/7/2018 2:33 PM, Nil wrote:
On 07 Sep 2018, Frank "frank wrote in alt.home.repair:

I never heard of obsolete antifreeze. Even saved used could be
used in the winter to help prevent drain traps freezing.

It's Dexcool. It can't be mixed with regular antifreeze and I don't
have that car any more.

I've never needed to prevent drain traps from freezing.

I have friends that do it at their hunting camp and house went left for
a few months in the winter.

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive. Could be safely washed down the drain.

On 9/7/2018 5:25 PM, Frank wrote:
....

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive.Â* Could be safely washed down the drain.


Absolutely not!!! as a general rule. Most jurisdiction will flat-out
prohibit any such thing.

--

On 9/7/2018 7:59 PM, dpb wrote:
On 9/7/2018 5:25 PM, Frank wrote:
...

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive.Â* Could be safely washed down the drain.


Absolutely not!!! as a general rule.Â* Most jurisdiction will flat-out
prohibit any such thing.

--

They may but municipal sewers can handle it and it degrades. It is
advised not to put in septic. Its sweet taste and toxicity to dogs who
like it scares people. Just don't flush the dog down the toilet with
the antifreeze.

On 07 Sep 2018, Frank "frank wrote in alt.home.repair:

I have friends that do it at their hunting camp and house went
left for a few months in the winter.

Well, maybe I'll save it for that day when I have a hunting camp!

No, seriously, I'm trying to get rid of all the crap I've hoarded,
"just in case..."

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive. Could be safely washed down the drain.

I don't feel comfortable with that.

On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 14:29:21 -0400, Nil
wrote:

That is, plan of attack... I'm going to mix a few ounces of the Coleman
fuel in with each tank of regular unleaded gas in my lawn mower and car
until I use up the can. I probably have only one, maybe two mows left
this season, so I guess most of it will end up in the car.

I'm still not sure whether the fuel is naphtha or white gas, but from
the comments here and others I found on the web tell me that either
will burn reasonably OK in a gasoline engine.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


Can't be worse than any of the other bottles of "miracle cure" people
dump in their gas tank hoping for wonderful things to happen. (or bad
things not to happen)
I think they are all just naphtha and traces of other things to make
them unique.

On 9/7/2018 2:33 PM, Nil wrote:
On 07 Sep 2018, Frank "frank wrote in alt.home.repair:

I never heard of obsolete antifreeze. Even saved used could be
used in the winter to help prevent drain traps freezing.

It's Dexcool. It can't be mixed with regular antifreeze and I don't
have that car any more.

I've never needed to prevent drain traps from freezing.

Any Cruise Nights or other auto enthusiast gatherings around? I imagine
someone would like to have it. Local repair shop?

On 09/07/2018 04:25 PM, Frank wrote:
On 9/7/2018 2:33 PM, Nil wrote:
On 07 Sep 2018, Frank "frank wrote in alt.home.repair:

I never heard of obsolete antifreeze. Even saved used could be
used in the winter to help prevent drain traps freezing.

It's Dexcool. It can't be mixed with regular antifreeze and I don't
have that car any more.

I've never needed to prevent drain traps from freezing.

I have friends that do it at their hunting camp and house went left for
a few months in the winter.

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive. Could be safely washed down the drain.

Yeah, the fish won't mind or anyone with a ground water well.

On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 20:27:48 -0600, lowbrowman, the endlessly driveling
senile idiot, blabbered again:


I've never needed to prevent drain traps from freezing.

I have friends that do it at their hunting camp and house went left for
a few months in the winter.

Dex Cool is mostly ethylene glycol with a few percent of another
additive. Could be safely washed down the drain.

Yeah, the fish won't mind or anyone with a ground water well.

You a farmer boy, lowbrowman? That would explain a lot about you ...though
not your endless driveling.

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:37:20 -0400, Nil
wrote:

I found a quart can of Coleman fuel in my basement. It's been many
years since I used my old backbacking stove, so this stuff must have
been sitting on the shelf for a long time. The can is labeled "Peak 1
Model 8555-300 - Fuel for gasoline backpacking appliances." I can't
find any reference to this model number on the 'net. The can has no
indication of what the actual composition of the fuel is, whether it's
naptha, gasoline, "white gas", or whatever. The warnings on the back
of the can include, "Do not use this fuel as a fire starter, for
cleaning purposes, or in kerosene, alcohol, or lamp oil appliances" and
"Handle with the same care as gasoline." I don't know how I'd get rid
of this stuff if I wanted to - throwing it in the trash would not be
not a good idea and is probably illegal. So, I'm wondering what else I
can do with it.

Suggestions? Can this be substituted for regular gasoline? That is, can
I dump it into my lawn mower or car without ill effects?

Why throw it in the trash. Give it to someone, sell it for 50 cents at a
rummage sale, or whatever. People still use it.

But yes, it's naptha, and naptha is a great octane booster. The old
racing cars in the 1950s thru 70s used it to boost power. I know this
for fact. In the late 70's I acquired about 5 gallons of it. My early
70's Chevy had a carburetor and I was told it was safe to use on that
engine. I added a half gallon of the naptha to 10 gallons of gas, and I
was impressed by the extra power I got. It also did a good job of
cleaning out the bore in my carb, and I suspect it cleaned the whole
engine and fuel system.

I am not sure what it would do to a modern fuel injected computerized
engine, so I would hesitate to try it, But if I had an old car with a
carb, I'd use it without worry.

You only have a quart, Add about 2 ounces to a gallon of gas for your
lawnmower and seee if the mower goes faster....

If i see a lawn mower flying across the horizon, with a tail of flame in
back, I'll know you added the whole quart and went airborne.

Naptha is also a good solvent for some oil based paints as well as a
paintbrush cleaner for them.

Also makes a good metal cleaner for some things including electrical
parts.

Greg