Earths can be dangerous
 

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff (a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..
--
Tony Sayer

Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert
 

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer, the notorious troll-feeding
senile idiot, blathered again:

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

What are you doing feeding a brain dead troll all the time, idiot?

Earths can be dangerous
 

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff
(a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine
and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it
doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time
the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

Heating a few gallons of water.

Earths can be dangerous
 

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff
(a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine
and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it
doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time
the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

Heating a few gallons of water.

The once its heated its heated, so its not a continuous load is it!..
--
Tony Sayer

Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert
 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:25:28 +0100, tony sayer, the notorious troll-feeding
senile idiot, blathered again:


Heating a few gallons of water.

The once its heated its heated, so its not a continuous load is it!..

What counts for him is whether or not you will continously feed him, you
senile troll-feeding idiot! tsk

Earths can be dangerous
 

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:25:28 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff
(a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine
and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it
doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time
the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

Heating a few gallons of water.

The once its heated its heated, so its not a continuous load is it!..

Takes a while to heat water. Look up the specific heat capacity.

Earths can be dangerous
 

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:25:28 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff
(a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine
and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it
doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time
the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

Heating a few gallons of water.

The once its heated its heated, so its not a continuous load is it!..

Takes a while to heat water. Look up the specific heat capacity.

Yes so how much are you heating that demands 3 kW continuous then;?.

Sure you not driving a steam engine;?..

Or does you understanding of the word "continuous" differ from how most
anyone else might understand it??..
--
Tony Sayer

Troll-feeding Senile IDIOT Alert
 

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:06:11 +0100, tony sayer, the notorious troll-feeding
senile idiot, blathered again:


Yes so how much are you heating that demands 3 kW continuous then;?.

Sure you not driving a steam engine;?..

Or does you understanding of the word "continuous" differ from how most
anyone else might understand it??..

You still believe you might get away with your sick troll-feeding, you sick
senile ****? Just wait and see, my newest punching bag! LOL

Earths can be dangerous
 

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:06:11 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 08:25:28 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:31:46 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 18:16:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife scribeth thus
On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 14:23:34 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


It's a different matter with the general supply to a house as
there
are lots of appliances that might be (partially) earthing one
side
or
the other of the supply.

You're a right pessimist if you assume TWO faults.

The system has been designed so that you don't
get killed even when that does happen at times.

It almost never will.

Funny thing is, we have all these silly rules, yet they sell legal
double
sockets that have a 20A limit, yet you can plug two 13A appliances
into
them without anything blowing. They claim it would never happen,
but
it
does, and I've seen it.

Look up diversity..

It's bull****, I've seen two 3kW appliances running off a double
socket
which melted and almost caused a fire. Luckily the flammable stuff
(a
pile of paperwork) was not quite close enough to the socket.

Given decent quality plugs and sockets that shouldn't happen. Does
anyone really run Six kW continuously off a double outlet anyway?...

You only need two large kitchen appliances, like a washing machine
and a
tumble dryer. Anyway, it gets damn hot very quickly at 6kW, it
doesn't
need to be continuously to get hot enough to set light to something
lying
against the socket, like the wallpaper....


So the washer and tumble drier are pulling 6 kW all the time then?..

the dryer is 3kW continuously for an hour and a half. So all the time
the
washer is heating, that's 6kW.

All the time! What are you doing feeding a steam engine;?..

Heating a few gallons of water.

The once its heated its heated, so its not a continuous load is it!..

Takes a while to heat water. Look up the specific heat capacity.

Yes so how much are you heating that demands 3 kW continuous then;?.

A washing machine full.

Sure you not driving a steam engine;?..

Or does you understanding of the word "continuous" differ from how most
anyone else might understand it??..

It's long enough to melt the double socket. They're rated at 20A and they should be rated at 26A, like the MK ones are.