I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

And it says "Placement: The Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ microphone should be
placed in the center of your vehicle's driver seat headrest facing
forward. " So doesn't that mean if you're rear-ended your head will go
back and whack this thing, which has got to be worse for your head than
hitting the head restraint.

And what is it equalizing?


One of the answers to a questions is "No. It's made for auto eq the
pioneer radio. A mic won't work on your auxiliary on your radio."

Is that true, a mic won't work through AUX? I thought that AUX is
normally TRRS and a TS input will still match up with TRRS enough to
likely work. Or at least possibly work. I'm not going to damage
anything by trying, right?

On 05/08/2018 08:23, micky wrote:
I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

And it says "Placement: The Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ microphone should be
placed in the center of your vehicle's driver seat headrest facing
forward. " So doesn't that mean if you're rear-ended your head will go
back and whack this thing, which has got to be worse for your head than
hitting the head restraint.

And what is it equalizing?


One of the answers to a questions is "No. It's made for auto eq the
pioneer radio. A mic won't work on your auxiliary on your radio."

Is that true, a mic won't work through AUX? I thought that AUX is
normally TRRS and a TS input will still match up with TRRS enough to
likely work. Or at least possibly work. I'm not going to damage
anything by trying, right?


Active noise cancellation? would only work for one person, if that and
limited to simple repetitive noise, adding antiphase of the received noise

In sci.electronics.repair micky wrote:

And what is it equalizing?

A number of car stereos have a setup that is used when first installed to
automatically set the volume and eq (bass/treble) for each speaker so it is
optimized.

When in that mode, the radio plays a number of tones and white noise one
speaker at a time to figure out the best pattern for the driver. That
microphone is used to listen to those tones. You aren't in the car, you
place the mic where your head would be and get out of the car and let the
radio run the tests.

You don't leave it in circuit, after the radio does it's thing, it's
removed.

Both my original radio and the current one has modes for "driver only",
"front only" and "4 passenger". It's just a tweak to get the best sound
based on how many people are in the car.

Unless you have a radio that does the auto configuration, there is no point
having one of those mics.

-bruce

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 10:24:39 +0000, Bruce Esquibel wrote:

When in that mode, the radio plays a number of tones and white noise one
speaker at a time to figure out the best pattern for the driver. That
microphone is used to listen to those tones. You aren't in the car, you
place the mic where your head would be and get out of the car and let
the radio run the tests.

I thought I'd heard all the daft features modern cars have until I read
this. Talk about needless complexity.



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On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.

On 08/05/2018 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.


I don't think mine does but then neither does my flip phone.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers
https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews

Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver.

Auto-EQ. Please read through the questions and answers at the bottom
of the Amazon page.

The way it's suppose to work is you termorarily plug in the mic and
place it at your favorite listening position. You then punch the
Auto-EQ button, which adjusts the delays and levels to the speakers so
that the player sounds reasonable. You then remove the microphone and
put it some place where you can lose it. That's why there are
replacement mics for sale on Amazon.

Notice that you can only adjust the equalization automatically with
the microphone. There is no manual adjustment on this Pioneer player.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 11:23:26 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 08/05/2018 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.


I don't think mine does but then neither does my flip phone.

Are you sure. My 10 year old Samsung Convoy (flip) has bluetooth and
3g data. I just never use it.

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 11:23:26 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 08/05/2018 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.


I don't think mine does but then neither does my flip phone.

Are you sure. My 10 year old Samsung Convoy (flip) has bluetooth and
3g data. I just never use it.

You would think both the basic phones and car audio systems would have
it because of the obvious safety issues. It makes it easy
for you to take calls, talk, handsfree while driving. Plus BT in the
phone enables you to do handsfree wherever you are.

On 08/05/2018 11:44 AM, wrote:
Are you sure. My 10 year old Samsung Convoy (flip) has bluetooth and
3g data. I just never use it.

Yeah, I guess it does. Never had a reason to use it so never looked in
the settings. Supposedly it can connect to the internet but that's never
worked.

'I never use it' applies to the whole damn phone as far as I'm
concerned. I've hated phones since they were made from Bakelite and Ma
Bell owned them.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 13:44:19 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 11:23:26 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 08/05/2018 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.


I don't think mine does but then neither does my flip phone.

Are you sure. My 10 year old Samsung Convoy (flip) has bluetooth and
3g data. I just never use it.

My Motorola v188 flip doesn't have Bluetooth, whatever that is.
Still works fine for what we need. Phone calls.
We've had it for 14 years.

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 7:10:12 PM UTC-5, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 13:44:19 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 11:23:26 -0600, rbowman wrote:

On 08/05/2018 10:04 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 03:23:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

I don't get it:

Pioneer CD-MC20 Auto-EQ Microphone for Car DVD Receivers

https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-MC...ustomerReviews


Why does someone need a microphone for a DVD receiver. Are people
doing karioke in the car?
I thought people want microphones if they are connecting the car
radio to the cellphone, but the ad doesn't mention cellphones.

I haven't seen a car "radio" (MP3 player etc) in 10 years that did not
bluetooth to your phone.


I don't think mine does but then neither does my flip phone.

Are you sure. My 10 year old Samsung Convoy (flip) has bluetooth and
3g data. I just never use it.

My Motorola v188 flip doesn't have Bluetooth, whatever that is.
Still works fine for what we need. Phone calls.
We've had it for 14 years.

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

On 8/5/2018 8:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^



I have the perfect phone for you...though some might think you're a racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBIpzdckeU

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:06:38 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I don't like texting either, but when I text my friend a short question,
I get a short answer usually within 3 minutes. Were I to call her, I
might well be interrupting her driving, or all kinds of other tthings,
like listening to some complicated radio program.

Also, it appears great for business, when there is a chance of a
dispute. People all the time are admitting to things in text that they
later deny on the People's Court. I prefer phone calls but they leave
no record. (My cell phone and home phone answering machine allow for
recording but Maryland is a 2-party state.) "I'll pay you back" as
soon as I get my tax return. is a very common text.

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 5 Aug 2018 10:24:39 -0000 (UTC), Bruce
Esquibel wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair micky wrote:

And what is it equalizing?

A number of car stereos have a setup that is used when first installed to
automatically set the volume and eq (bass/treble) for each speaker so it is
optimized.

When in that mode, the radio plays a number of tones and white noise one
speaker at a time to figure out the best pattern for the driver. That
microphone is used to listen to those tones. You aren't in the car, you
place the mic where your head would be and get out of the car and let the
radio run the tests.

You don't leave it in circuit, after the radio does it's thing, it's
removed.

Thanks, Bruce. (and thanks, Jeff) I n ever would have guessed. (My
car radio was made in 1890.0


Both my original radio and the current one has modes for "driver only",
"front only" and "4 passenger". It's just a tweak to get the best sound
based on how many people are in the car.

Unlike other makes, GM radios used to, maybe still do, reverse left and
right for the back seat. I think that means wherever one is in the
car, he gets and equal dose of left and right, instead of having to sit
in the middle of the car (where no one sits.) It's a dilemma. When I
drove a stage coach, I was usually alone and I always sat in the middle,
so that I had the right balance of left and right.

Unless you have a radio that does the auto configuration, there is no point
having one of those mics.

You saved me some money.


-bruce

On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 08:10:28 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:06:38 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I don't like texting either, but when I text my friend a short question,
I get a short answer usually within 3 minutes. Were I to call her, I
might well be interrupting her driving, or all kinds of other tthings,
like listening to some complicated radio program.

Also, it appears great for business, when there is a chance of a
dispute. People all the time are admitting to things in text that they
later deny on the People's Court. I prefer phone calls but they leave
no record. (My cell phone and home phone answering machine allow for
recording but Maryland is a 2-party state.) "I'll pay you back" as
soon as I get my tax return. is a very common text.

If someone is obviously talking to a recorder they have waived their
expectancy of privacy. The two party thing is moot.

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:06:43 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:59:10 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:06:43 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick.. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

That's OK, I'm sure they are laughing plenty when they see you too.
As to smartphones, if you haven't tried it, I wouldn't be knocking it.

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:43:10 PM UTC-5, Hello wrote:
On 8/5/2018 8:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

I have the perfect phone for you...though some might think you're a racist.

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:02:16 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:59:10 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:06:43 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

That's OK, I'm sure they are laughing plenty when they see you too.
As to smartphones, if you haven't tried it, I wouldn't be knocking it.

Traitor_4ever, I'm sure you're male model material and make the women swoon.. Of course, most male models are Queers. You may very well fit into that category. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Observant Monster

On 08/05/2018 07:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

[snip]

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

Apparently, some smartphones are not good for making phone calls. It's
an advertising / datamining device working for Apple or Google.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to
enlighten oneself and others." [Voltaire]

On 08/05/2018 08:06 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

[snip]

Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* I didn't think much of texting at first.Â* It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages.Â* I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind.Â* I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I don't normally use text for a conversation. When I do send a text, I
don't want anything interactive or immediate (like with a voice call).
Quick reply is NOT needed.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to
enlighten oneself and others." [Voltaire]

On 08/06/2018 12:59 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

[snip]

I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

1. Talking on a smartphone does look strange.

2. What keeps your cheek from pushing "buttons"?

3. People who appear to be talking to themselves can be even more of a
problem, when they're using a bluetooth headset. There's no phone in
sight to explain the strange behavior.

4. As to bluetooth, I don't like the normal headsets. I get tired of
being hit in the ear as I walk.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to
enlighten oneself and others." [Voltaire]

[snip]

I have the perfect phone for you...though some might think you're a racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfBIpzdckeU

It's a better shape to hold next to your face, than a smartphone.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to
enlighten oneself and others." [Voltaire]

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 11:02:11 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:59:10 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:06:43 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/5/18 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

I have a Samsung cell phone that is the size of 2 Zippo Lighters placed end to end. It will do text but I have to put on some very strong reading glasses just to see the 2-inch screen. I want the cell phone for ONE THING! To make fraking phone calls! I slip it into my man purse(11" laptop bag) when I have to go to an appointment with a doctor or when my friend Stinky takes me shopping. The little phone is 5 years old and it works fine. IT MAKES PHONE CALLS! Geez! ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

I didn't think much of texting at first. It doesn't have the
urgency of a phone call
and is good for leaving messages. I'm outside a lot with the normal
rural noises caused
by wind. I'm less likely to misunderstand a text than a voicemail.

I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

That's OK, I'm sure they are laughing plenty when they see you too.
As to smartphones, if you haven't tried it, I wouldn't be knocking it.

I think the perfect smart phone for me would be a ruggedized flip
phone like my Convoy that blue tooths to a larger display if I want to
use all of the smart features. (like Nav in the car, chart plotting,
GPS and internet RADAR in the boat). I really don't like that much
delicate technology in my pocket.
The problem is, to be useful as a smart phone, it does have to be
pretty big, with a large, very fragile display and I don't want to
have that in my pocket. I can throw my Convoy off a 3 story building,
have it bounce off the concrete and land in a pool of water. It will
still be OK. (BTDT)
Try that with your Note 8 or your I-Phone. Mine even floats.

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 2:39:17 PM UTC-4, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 08/06/2018 12:59 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

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I'm on wheels so I don't get out a lot. I can send and receive texts from my computer's Email client if I want to. I don't own one of those smartass phones so I'm a bit of a Luddite in that respect. I can't stop laughing when I see someone holding a device the size of a paperback novel up to the side of their face and talking into it. It's almost like watching someone talking on the first cell phone sold by Motorola that was the size of a brick. People using Bluetooth to talk on their cell phones also make me laugh. I see someone who appears to be talking to themselves and it's even funnier when they're arguing with the person on the phone. Technology definitely makes life entertaining. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Amused Monster

1. Talking on a smartphone does look strange.

2. What keeps your cheek from pushing "buttons"?

It has a proximity sensor that knows when it's near your ear.
Try looking at it sometime, it blanks the display when you put
it to your ear to save power. I would assume the same locks
out any touches on the screen from being interpreted as intended
touches on the screen.

I put a launcher on my Android that allows me to lock the screen icons.
That prevents you from accidentally moving them around. I've had mine
mysteriously move around, from when I put the phone in a pocket and
didn't lock the phone. With a launcher that allows you to lock them,
you can't move them without going into the launcher setting and unlocking
them. It won't prevent you from butt dialing, if you manage to hit the
right icons and buttons in sequence, but it does prevent the phone from
winding up with missing icons, icons moved to other pages, etc.




3. People who appear to be talking to themselves can be even more of a
problem, when they're using a bluetooth headset. There's no phone in
sight to explain the strange behavior.

Yes, they do look a bit odd, but I've gotten used to it. Sometimes I
might briefly think one is talking to me, not realizing they are on
the phone.




4. As to bluetooth, I don't like the normal headsets. I get tired of
being hit in the ear as I walk.

Not sure what a normal headset is, there are various kinds, from a Jawbone
type that just hangs in your ear, to full over the ear headphones.