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spfalk July 16th 18 11:44 PM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
Short story is a previous mentally challenged owner decided for some reason to
move the garage door track up and attach it to the sill on the outer wall
rather than the block provided. In doing so , they notched three 2x10 floor
joists about 1 inch to 2 inches deep in the center of three joists. These
joists are 2x10's and 16 OC, and span 12 feet. Above the garage is a bedroom.
I am curious as to whether there is an easy repair to reinforce these 3
joists, perhaps by gluing/nailing some pywood to the center about 1-2 feet on
either side of the nothces. There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry. But I'd prefer to shore it up if
possible before closing the break in the firewall from these morons.. Any
advice on what might be sufficient is appreciated.

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Ed Pawlowski July 17th 18 02:33 AM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On 7/16/2018 6:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
Short story is a previous mentally challenged owner decided for some
reason to
move the garage door track up and attach it to the sill on the outer wall
rather than the block provided. In doing so , they notched three 2x10 floor
joists about 1 inch to 2 inches deep in the center of threeÂ* joists. These
joists are 2x10's and 16 OC, and span 12 feet. AboveÂ* the garage is a
bedroom.
I am curious as to whether there is an easy repair to reinforce these 3
joists, perhaps by gluing/nailing some pywood to the center about 1-2
feet on
either side of the nothces. There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry. ButÂ* I'd prefer to shore it up if
possible before closing the break in the firewall from these morons.. Any
advice on what might be sufficient is appreciated.



Sistering is the simplest. If you go with plywood, use some
construction adhesive and screws or bolts through.

Inspector is probably right but for a few bucks in material and an hour
of time, you'll sleep better.

Bubba's Home Inspections July 17th 18 11:53 AM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On 07/16/2018 06:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry.


Most home inspectors are real estate agent failures and are dumber than a box of rocks.Â* As Ed suggested, glue and screw a sister to each joist.


Piso Mojado[_2_] July 17th 18 03:45 PM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On 7/17/18 6:53 AM, Bubba's Home Inspections wrote:
On 07/16/2018 06:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry.


Most home inspectors are real estate agent failures and are dumber than
a box of rocks.


All too true.

A friend bought a home in a major city a few years back and hired a
recommended home inspector. He gave her a long, detailed report,
complete with pictures of some concern areas.

Unfortunately he missed some structural problems and several maintenance
issues that have cost thousands to repair.

dpb[_3_] July 17th 18 05:34 PM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On 7/17/2018 9:45 AM, Piso Mojado wrote:
On 7/17/18 6:53 AM, Bubba's Home Inspections wrote:
On 07/16/2018 06:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry.


Most home inspectors are real estate agent failures and are dumber
than a box of rocks.


All too true.

A friend bought a home in a major city a few years back and hired a
recommended home inspector. He gave her a long, detailed report,
complete with pictures of some concern areas.

Unfortunately he missed some structural problems and several maintenance
issues that have cost thousands to repair.


And I love it that their big, glossy, fancy reports come with a
disclaimer that removes any liability for anything they either got wrong
or missed...at most while you may be out tens of $K, the best you can
recover if anything at all is the cost of the inspection itself.

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trader_4 July 17th 18 10:20 PM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 9:33:56 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 7/16/2018 6:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
Short story is a previous mentally challenged owner decided for some
reason to
move the garage door track up and attach it to the sill on the outer wall
rather than the block provided. In doing so , they notched three 2x10 floor
joists about 1 inch to 2 inches deep in the center of threeÂ* joists. These
joists are 2x10's and 16 OC, and span 12 feet. AboveÂ* the garage is a
bedroom.
I am curious as to whether there is an easy repair to reinforce these 3
joists, perhaps by gluing/nailing some pywood to the center about 1-2
feet on
either side of the nothces. There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry. ButÂ* I'd prefer to shore it up if
possible before closing the break in the firewall from these morons.. Any
advice on what might be sufficient is appreciated.



Sistering is the simplest. If you go with plywood, use some
construction adhesive and screws or bolts through.

Inspector is probably right but for a few bucks in material and an hour
of time, you'll sleep better.


I would sister it with another section of 2 x 10, ~4 ft long. IMO,
easier to deal with than plywood, it's probably cheaper if you need to
buy it, easier to take home, they will cut it for you. Nails and
construction adhesive work for me

[email protected] July 18th 18 08:53 AM

Notched 2x10's in center, easiest reinforcement if necessary.
 
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 06:53:50 -0400, Bubba's Home Inspections
wrote:

On 07/16/2018 06:44 PM, spfalk wrote:
There is no sagging or cracking and one home
inspector said its not honestly a worry.


Most home inspectors are real estate agent failures and are dumber than
a box of rocks.* As Ed suggested, glue and screw a sister to each joist.


You could not have said that better. I have always wondered if they go
to bars and hire winos to be inspectors, or just pick the ones who are
sleeping in the hallways at the unemployment offices.

A piece of 1/4" steel plate could also be bolted across the notched
parts and extended at least 8 inches on each side of them. That's
probably over-kill, but stronger is always better than weak.



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