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That's hard to imagine. One could buy a nice regular house in my
area for that.
The median value of houses with mortgages was about $100,000 in 2013.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-11-21/mobile-homes-are-so-expensive-now-hurricane-victims-can-t-afford-them
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replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 05:31:12 -0600, Dean Hoffman
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That's hard to imagine. One could buy a nice regular house in my
area for that.
The median value of houses with mortgages was about $100,000 in 2013.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-11-21/mobile-homes-are-so-expensive-now-hurricane-victims-can-t-afford-them


I don't get it either but if they were dropping in on a water front
lot that only accepts modular/mobile homes it might make a tiny bit of
sense. It is pretty much impossible to get mobile home zoning in a
place that was not grand fathered in here tho.
I agree you could build a pretty nice concrete block and stucco house
here for $200k.
I admit my Cavco stock has been doing very well.
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On 11/21/2017 10:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance
nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.


Not really. Buffet's company reacted to the pre-hurricane market where
buyers wanted more upscale mobile homes. It is not a matter of price
gouging a giving people what they want.

There is an opportunity here to supply a basic, modest priced home.
Rather than gripe about what others chose to make, jump in and start
making the cheaper ones.

If you crash your Chevy, don't blame the Caddy dealer because you cannot
afford what he sells. You won't find a $5000 Chevy any more either.
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:36:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/21/2017 10:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance
nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.


Not really. Buffet's company reacted to the pre-hurricane market where
buyers wanted more upscale mobile homes. It is not a matter of price
gouging a giving people what they want.

There is an opportunity here to supply a basic, modest priced home.
Rather than gripe about what others chose to make, jump in and start
making the cheaper ones.

If you crash your Chevy, don't blame the Caddy dealer because you cannot
afford what he sells. You won't find a $5000 Chevy any more either.


Since this story seemed to be centered around Naples/Ft Myers Fla it
should also be noted that these trailers need to be 160 MPH wind code
and that is up to 80 MPH more than your average site built home up
north. Bear in mind wind pressure not a linear scale.
That is the reason why so many get blown up. A trailer set in the 70s
only needed to be 80MPH rated if it was rated at all.
It also explains why northern houses sustain so much damage in minimal
storms that we would not even put up the shutters for.



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On 11/21/2017 10:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance
nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.

There is the supply and demand disruption from the hurricane.

Mobile homes are not sold like regular houses and loan periods are more
like those for a car. Plus if you do not own the property there is a
rental fee.

Mobile homes are the first thing to go in a hurricane or tornado and
buying them in areas prone to that is a mistake.

Premanufactured homes are different as they are put together in a
factory but are a permanent residence put on your property with a
regular mortgage.
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On 11/21/2017 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:36:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/21/2017 10:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance
nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.


Not really. Buffet's company reacted to the pre-hurricane market where
buyers wanted more upscale mobile homes. It is not a matter of price
gouging a giving people what they want.

There is an opportunity here to supply a basic, modest priced home.
Rather than gripe about what others chose to make, jump in and start
making the cheaper ones.

If you crash your Chevy, don't blame the Caddy dealer because you cannot
afford what he sells. You won't find a $5000 Chevy any more either.


Since this story seemed to be centered around Naples/Ft Myers Fla it
should also be noted that these trailers need to be 160 MPH wind code
and that is up to 80 MPH more than your average site built home up
north. Bear in mind wind pressure not a linear scale.
That is the reason why so many get blown up. A trailer set in the 70s
only needed to be 80MPH rated if it was rated at all.
It also explains why northern houses sustain so much damage in minimal
storms that we would not even put up the shutters for.


That's interesting to know. Thought it was maybe just houses there.
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replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
Yep, just like he ruined Acme, Benjamin Moore, Insurance, Electricity Rates,
Dairy Queen, Fruit of the Loom and Duracell. Up the price "claim" new and
improved and yet only looks were new and nothing was improved and only
worsened. He preys upon those that, unbelievably, still believe in "you get
what you pay for". The King of Cheap.

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replying to Frank, Iggy wrote:
Yep, I know. But, we are talking about cookie cutter on every level. To not
ramp-up your cheapest models that are far quicker to produce to meet the
ACTUAL demand and only offer your most expensive models is pretty sinister.
Clearly putting profits before people and especially their best interests.
He's setting up another slew of Underwater Mortgages and the next generation
of homeless.

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:05:37 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 11/21/2017 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:36:30 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/21/2017 10:14 AM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance
nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.


Not really. Buffet's company reacted to the pre-hurricane market where
buyers wanted more upscale mobile homes. It is not a matter of price
gouging a giving people what they want.

There is an opportunity here to supply a basic, modest priced home.
Rather than gripe about what others chose to make, jump in and start
making the cheaper ones.

If you crash your Chevy, don't blame the Caddy dealer because you cannot
afford what he sells. You won't find a $5000 Chevy any more either.


Since this story seemed to be centered around Naples/Ft Myers Fla it
should also be noted that these trailers need to be 160 MPH wind code
and that is up to 80 MPH more than your average site built home up
north. Bear in mind wind pressure not a linear scale.
That is the reason why so many get blown up. A trailer set in the 70s
only needed to be 80MPH rated if it was rated at all.
It also explains why northern houses sustain so much damage in minimal
storms that we would not even put up the shutters for.


That's interesting to know. Thought it was maybe just houses there.


Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.
"Portable" means you can put it in your garage before a storm, not
that you could pick it up and move it with a crane.
Even things like HVAC condensers require tie downs and these days they
have to be above FEMA elevation so you see them up on concrete block
pads at finish floor height.


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Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

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On 11/22/2017 4:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.


Just lay old tires on top of it to hold it down...
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On 11/22/2017 4:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.


Just lay old tires on top of it to hold it down...


Snerk. Good one.

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Â* Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity.Â* Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere.Â* Knock wood.


Just lay old tires on top of it to hold it down...



I don't think it is too hard with new construction to tie down roof to
walls. Gravity is depended to keep the roof on but wind might overcome
it and a few extra braces, whatever, make sure gravity is not overcome.


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On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.
If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
trusses.

They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.
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On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 8:49:25 AM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 11/22/2017 4:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.


Just lay old tires on top of it to hold it down...


Snerk. Good one.

Cindy Hamilton


They actually do that in some places but if you have a real hurricane,
those tires will be going for a ride along with the roof.
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:06:34 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 11/22/2017 8:49 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 11/22/2017 4:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
Â* Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity.Â* Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere.Â* Knock wood.


Just lay old tires on top of it to hold it down...



I don't think it is too hard with new construction to tie down roof to
walls. Gravity is depended to keep the roof on but wind might overcome
it and a few extra braces, whatever, make sure gravity is not overcome.


More than a few.
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On 11/22/2017 6:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


I think one of the issues here is inflation and expectations. That
quite nice trailer park may be loaded with $200,000+ units that would be
quite nice. If they were lost, insurance would cover most of the
replacement cost.

The trailer park down the road is much older. The owners bought new
units back then for $40,000, maybe less. Can you get insurance for
replacement value? If destroyed 40 years later, they cannot get that
$40,000 trailer. OMG, what do I do? I'll blame Warren Buffet.

I bought my first house in 1966 and paid $10,600. If it was destroyed,
I'd have to pay considerably more to find anything at all above a
storage shed. I sold that house for triple what I paid but still spent
double that for my present house that has quadrupled in value.
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On 11/21/2017 3:31 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
*** That's hard to imagine.* One could buy a nice regular house in my area for that.
The median value of houses with mortgages was about $100,000 in 2013.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-11-21/mobile-homes-are-so-expensive-now-hurricane-victims-can-t-afford-them



LOL!
My driveway here at Sunset Chateau was appraised at well over a million.


Sell a couple of miles of it and you won't have to shop at Food-4-Less
any more!

LOLOK
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" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

Iudaei orbem terrarum infestant.
- correct Latin

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade
Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade
Unionist. Then they came for the jews, and I did not speak out
because I did not give a ****. Then they came for me and there
wasn't a single commie ******* left to speak for me."
- Martin Niemöller (1892 - 1984)

Fformby-Smythe's Law of zionism:
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 10:45:47 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 11/22/2017 6:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


I think one of the issues here is inflation and expectations. That
quite nice trailer park may be loaded with $200,000+ units that would be
quite nice. If they were lost, insurance would cover most of the
replacement cost.

The trailer park down the road is much older. The owners bought new
units back then for $40,000, maybe less. Can you get insurance for
replacement value? If destroyed 40 years later, they cannot get that
$40,000 trailer. OMG, what do I do? I'll blame Warren Buffet.

I bought my first house in 1966 and paid $10,600. If it was destroyed,
I'd have to pay considerably more to find anything at all above a
storage shed. I sold that house for triple what I paid but still spent
double that for my present house that has quadrupled in value.


Insurance usually comes with the top limit they will pay, replacement
or not and you pay a premium based on that. They also manage risk
based on inspections and mitigation. Down here you get reduced
premiums if you bring your old house up to current "uplift" and other
wind codes.
Trailers are different breed of cat and you might not be able to get
"storm" insurance on an older unit. You would only have fire, theft
and liability homeowners. In fact that is all I carry on my house.
Storm and Flood are just too expensive to make sense.
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 08:04:42 -0800, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
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On 11/21/2017 3:31 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
*** That's hard to imagine.* One could buy a nice regular house in my area for that.
The median value of houses with mortgages was about $100,000 in 2013.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-11-21/mobile-homes-are-so-expensive-now-hurricane-victims-can-t-afford-them


LOL!
My driveway here at Sunset Chateau was appraised at well over a million.


Sell a couple of miles of it and you won't have to shop at Food-4-Less
any more!

LOLOK


Listen up, stoopid bitch.
My lovedoll and I shop at Food-4-Less cuz we wanna shop there.
**** off.


YOU listen up, dumb ditsoon.

Yer moulie tranny and you shop there cuz you can't AFFORD real food!

**** orf.
- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

Iudaei orbem terrarum infestant.
- correct Latin

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade
Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade
Unionist. Then they came for the jews, and I did not speak out
because I did not give a ****. Then they came for me and there
wasn't a single commie ******* left to speak for me."
- Martin Niemöller (1892 - 1984)

Fformby-Smythe's Law of zionism:
"The importance of 'Israeel' to any given jew is directly proportional
to the square of the distance between that jew and 'Israeel'."
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
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On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.
If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
trusses.

They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.


What "J" bolts? We don't need no stinkn j bolts up here. We have enough dead
weight in PA to hold everything down...

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Listen up, stoopid bitch.
My lovedoll and I shop at Food-4-Less cuz we wanna shop there.
**** off.


YOU listen up, dumb ditsoon.

Yer moulie tranny and you shop there cuz you can't AFFORD real food!

**** orf.


He can **** in your mouth, if you want it, Razovic. And we all KNOW that you
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Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.


Warren Buffett has always reminded me of the character played by Will
Geer in the 1966 movie Seconds: so avuncular, so ruthless.



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On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.


There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.


That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.

I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.

If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors


We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-H8-Hurricane-Tie-G90-Galvanized?gclid=Cj0KCQiA3dTQBRDnARIsAGKSflk0j4yhG ROP35bugpRDniVQ7MCoIa6cnxSI6Sx6Fi--L7d6JJtbYDIaAr4gEALw_wcB

Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)

and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
trusses.


That's hardcore. Still, I can see why.

They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.


I'm pretty sure the trailers next door are tied down in some
way. Maybe not as well as down there.

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:46:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:36:18 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.


That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.

I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.

If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors


We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-H8-Hurricane-Tie-G90-Galvanized?gclid=Cj0KCQiA3dTQBRDnARIsAGKSflk0j4yhG ROP35bugpRDniVQ7MCoIa6cnxSI6Sx6Fi--L7d6JJtbYDIaAr4gEALw_wcB

Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)

Those H8 "twisties" are better than toe nailing but they don't meet
code for much down here. You use something like this for the trusses.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...-H16/100375116
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton


Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.
If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
trusses.

They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.


What "J" bolts? We don't need no stinkn j bolts up here. We have enough dead
weight in PA to hold everything down...


Until you don't ;-)
Most hurricane damage to structures is because of uplift and internal
pressure lifting the roof off or taking a stick built house right off
the foundation. You guys saw that during "Mediocre Storm Sandy" that
was only "super" because the houses were not built to take even a
minimal tropical storm.


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On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 12:22:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:46:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:36:18 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton

Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.


That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.

I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.

If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors


We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-H8-Hurricane-Tie-G90-Galvanized?gclid=Cj0KCQiA3dTQBRDnARIsAGKSflk0j4yhG ROP35bugpRDniVQ7MCoIa6cnxSI6Sx6Fi--L7d6JJtbYDIaAr4gEALw_wcB

Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)

Those H8 "twisties" are better than toe nailing but they don't meet
code for much down here. You use something like this for the trusses.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...-H16/100375116


Granted. On the other hand, the code for footing depth is deeper
here, because of frost. We each have the code we need for our conditions.

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:26:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 12:22:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:46:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:36:18 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton

Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.

That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.

I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.

If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors

We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-H8-Hurricane-Tie-G90-Galvanized?gclid=Cj0KCQiA3dTQBRDnARIsAGKSflk0j4yhG ROP35bugpRDniVQ7MCoIa6cnxSI6Sx6Fi--L7d6JJtbYDIaAr4gEALw_wcB

Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)

Those H8 "twisties" are better than toe nailing but they don't meet
code for much down here. You use something like this for the trusses.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...-H16/100375116


Granted. On the other hand, the code for footing depth is deeper
here, because of frost. We each have the code we need for our conditions.

Cindy Hamilton


If the house is not firmly connected to the footing, it will just give
you a good indication of where it used to be. ;-)
"Mediocre Storm Sandy" proved the north does need a better building
code, particularly if you are on the global warming band wagon.
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On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 1:40:51 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:26:29 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 at 12:22:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:46:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:36:18 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton

Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.

That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.

I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.

If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors

We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-H8-Hurricane-Tie-G90-Galvanized?gclid=Cj0KCQiA3dTQBRDnARIsAGKSflk0j4yhG ROP35bugpRDniVQ7MCoIa6cnxSI6Sx6Fi--L7d6JJtbYDIaAr4gEALw_wcB

Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)

Those H8 "twisties" are better than toe nailing but they don't meet
code for much down here. You use something like this for the trusses.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...-H16/100375116


Granted. On the other hand, the code for footing depth is deeper
here, because of frost. We each have the code we need for our conditions.

Cindy Hamilton


If the house is not firmly connected to the footing, it will just give
you a good indication of where it used to be. ;-)
"Mediocre Storm Sandy" proved the north does need a better building
code, particularly if you are on the global warming band wagon.


There's a reason that codes get more demanding over time. We learn
as we go.

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On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:17:28 -0500, Tekkie®
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posted for all of us...



On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.

There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.

Cindy Hamilton

Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
the studs.
If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
plate down.
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
trusses.

They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.


What "J" bolts? We don't need no stinkn j bolts up here. We have enough dead
weight in PA to hold everything down...


Until you don't ;-)
Most hurricane damage to structures is because of uplift and internal
pressure lifting the roof off or taking a stick built house right off
the foundation. You guys saw that during "Mediocre Storm Sandy" that
was only "super" because the houses were not built to take even a
minimal tropical storm.


I agree. I can tell you know I was be facetious. There was a hurricane in PA
several years ago in new housing development near a nuclear power generating
station. All flattened... Gen station didn't even have an alert.

The weight I was referring to was from the govt. I know my house would be a
goner.

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