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Electricity detector?
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of
electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On 2017-10-16 2:03 PM, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. There are detectors for this, they are not cheap, they come in to pieces as a transmitter and a receiver, usually the transmitter is plugged into a dead outlet, then with the receiver you can see where the signal dies. |
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KenK posted for all of us...
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA One can use a telephone tone and probe. Also there are similar items for AC use. -- Tekkie |
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On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:03:15 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. For use through insulation there are non-contact testers that are inexpensive. They will detect a live cable if you place the tip near or on the cable. They won't work if the cable is inside the wall, ie it's inches away and covered with drywall, etc. There probably are more sensitive instruments that will, how practical they are, IDK. ?Usually being able to check where cables are available or at junction boxes is sufficient. |
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On 10/16/2017 12:27 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:03:15 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. For use through insulation there are non-contact testers that are inexpensive. They will detect a live cable if you place the tip near or on the cable. They won't work if the cable is inside the wall, ie it's inches away and covered with drywall, etc. There probably are more sensitive instruments that will, how practical they are, IDK. ?Usually being able to check where cables are available or at junction boxes is sufficient. Many stud finders have built-in AC detection. Transmitter/receiver devices work, but are much more expensive. Time-domain reflectometer cable testers can tell distance to break. Some can be connected to a live AC wire, many can't. BE VERY CAREFUL. I'd go for the stud finder. |
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Electricity detector?
On 16 Oct 2017 18:03:10 GMT, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Non Contact voltage detectors do exist and they do not require current flow. Most have a pretty limitted range (you can check a wire without disconnecting it, but you need to get into the box or into the wall) Some "stud finders" have a "live wire detector" built in as well. Otherwize you need to disconnect the power and use a "fox and hound" tester - but a bad connection can often still pass enough signal to fool you. |
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On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:32 -0400, FrozenNorth
wrote: On 2017-10-16 2:03 PM, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. There are detectors for this, they are not cheap, they come in to pieces as a transmitter and a receiver, usually the transmitter is plugged into a dead outlet, then with the receiver you can see where the signal dies. Called "fox and hound" |
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Electricity detector?
On 16 Oct 2017 18:03:10 GMT, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA HD?Lowe's carries a small probe, $10 for checking things. Just hold it near a switch, receptacles, etc. and it chirps if power is present. It looks like this pic: https://cdn1.tmbi.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/FH05MAY_ELETES_02.JPG Other types work differently and cost more. "Fox & Hound" is one product. |
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Electricity detector?
On 10/16/2017 12:03 PM, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. Yes, but you probably can't afford it for a one shot deal. |
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KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA There is a fox? It's called an inductive probe, but not. It's electrostatic. Has a tone transmitter included. I also had a Harbor Freight device which was so great, I gave away. Greg |
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On 16 Oct 2017 18:03:10 GMT, KenK wrote in
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Something like this might work for you. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercia...8907/205620398 -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 1:03:15 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA -- I've used a pocket AM/FM radio tuned to a relatively quiet spot on the AM band and moved it over a wall like a stud finder listening for the 60 HZ AC hum that would come from the energized Romex in the wall. It worked well for me before the AC voltage detectors became widely available ie 'inexpensive'. ヽ(ヅ)ノ [8~{} Uncle Detective Monster |
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Electricity detector?
On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-4, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
On 10/16/2017 11:03 AM, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Electricity only exists in the form of a "flow," idiot. Take physics 101 and then think about that again. |
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Electricity detector?
On 10/17/2017 08:53 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:
[snip] Electricity only exists in the form of a "flow," idiot. Charge exists too. |
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:43:41 -0500, CRNG
wrote: On 16 Oct 2017 18:03:10 GMT, KenK wrote in Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Something like this might work for you. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercia...8907/205620398 Good for about half an inch from the conductor - possibly an inch on a real good day of you manage to stand just right on one foot and hold your mouth just right - - - and will not detect voltage in metallic sheathed cable or inside a closed junction box. |
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Electricity detector?
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate! In article , burkesgurlz@std- girls.com says... On 10/17/2017 7:46 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-4, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 10/16/2017 11:03 AM, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Electricity only exists in the form of a "flow," idiot. Take physics 101 and then think about that again. I was discovering new physics when you were still ****tin' yer diapers, asshole! Gee... I wonder how my non-contact voltage detector manages to light up, then? I can find almost any electrical problem in a house in about twenty minutes or less, but you can't make any money that way. The guys who make the money are the ones who just start opening boxes everywhere because they don't have a game plan. They get paid by the hour for being stupid. -- Another hand-crafted post from... Checkmate Usenet author, poet, comedian, and philosopher. Copyright © 2017 all rights reserved Please visit me at alt.checkmate, the new go-to group for the discerning troll... In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 |
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Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate! In article , burkesgurlz@std- girls.com says... On 10/17/2017 11:59 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 10/17/2017 7:46 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-4, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 10/16/2017 11:03 AM, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Electricity only exists in the form of a "flow," idiot. Take physics 101 and then think about that again. I was discovering new physics when you were still ****tin' yer diapers, asshole! Here's some god damned physics... When I slap Miss Recktum's pockmarked face, her eyes goes round and round, like the wheels on a schoolbus. Why? Inertia? -- Another hand-crafted post from... Checkmate Usenet author, poet, comedian, and philosopher. Copyright © 2017 all rights reserved Please visit me at alt.checkmate, the new go-to group for the discerning troll... In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 |
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The non-contact, no-current flow detectors use what is called capacitive coupling.
The cheapest form of this type of detector is the Christmas light detectors that you place up against the wires going to the sockets and move from one socket to the next to find out where the flashing light or buzzing sound stops. But you have to have the plug in the outlet the correct way or you have to start checking from the far end of the circuit if the hot side of the outlet does not go to the first light. |
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On 10/17/2017 11:24 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article , burkesgurlz@std- girls.com says... On 10/17/2017 11:59 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 10/17/2017 7:46 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 9:53:16 AM UTC-4, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 10/16/2017 11:03 AM, KenK wrote: Do they make a gadget that detects the presence - not necessarily flow - of electricity in a conductor through insulation, walls, etc? Not electric flow because I am hunting an open circuit in a mobile home. I want to see how far the power is getting without removing caps on splices, opening walls, etc. TIA Electricity only exists in the form of a "flow," idiot. Take physics 101 and then think about that again. I was discovering new physics when you were still ****tin' yer diapers, asshole! Here's some god damned physics... When I slap Miss Recktum's pockmarked face, her eyes goes round and round, like the wheels on a schoolbus. Why? Inertia? Gravity. |
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Electricity detector?
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