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Hurricane Windows
We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not
near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers |
Hurricane Windows
On 9/12/2017 1:08 PM, Dave C wrote:
We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers If by water penetration you mean heavy rain, you should be good. Flooding, crap shoot. The surge was not as bad as originally thought so you may be ok for flooding. My daughter in Bradenton is in a B zone and had no flooding but no idea when power will be back. I hope you did as well as she did. My son in Parrish never lost power. |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:08:13 -0400, Dave C wrote:
We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers there are only two types of windows and doors - "Those that leak and those that are going to leak." http://www.floridadisaster.org/hrg/c...ings_index.asp John T. |
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 1:46:35 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/12/2017 1:08 PM, Dave C wrote: We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers If by water penetration you mean heavy rain, you should be good. Flooding, crap shoot. Flooding I'd say forget about it. The windows nay not let more than a small trickle in, but the water hands almost infinite other paths. I watched some dummy in FL on the news before the storm, cutting up what looked like door panels or similar, to form a barrier inside his garage? WTF? Total waste of time. The surge was not as bad as originally thought so you may be ok for flooding. My daughter in Bradenton is in a B zone and had no flooding but no idea when power will be back. I hope you did as well as she did. My son in Parrish never lost power. Yes, the storm surge, from what I saw, the worst might have been in Miami area and very southern west coast. |
Hurricane Windows
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:08:13 -0400, Dave C wrote:
We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers I don't know the exact answer, age of the house, the floor level or ground elevation, building codes used, etc. If water wants in, it can find away into the house. Especially; if the roof is ripped off or a neighbor's roof lands in the window. |
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My daughter in Bradenton is in a B zone and had no flooding but no idea when power will be back. Hundreds of power line workers plus equipment are on the way from Ontario Canada. Link below is just one company - several other large electrical companies are sending help also eg. Toronto Hydro. https://www.hydroone.com/cnw-article#?articleId=122901 John T. |
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 2:15:01 PM UTC-4, BurfordTJustice wrote:
So says the google grouper fron New Jersey....WTF Boi? It's simply a matter of physics, not location, moron. Even if a window itself is 100% water tight, a storm surge engulfs the whole house. A storm surge that reaches window level is high enough that water is going in via all available means. In that case, what a window does beyond not breaking from flying debris, is largely irrelevant. Even the flying debris part is probably irrelevant if the storm surge reaches window level. Blowing out of a window might actually help at that point, equalizing pressure, so that the water doesn't cave in the whole structure. |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:03:24 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
They cut power in my son's area for a few hours to clear downed wires for safety. Four hours down is really a minor inconvenience. It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. |
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On 12-Sep-17 2:27 PM, Oren wrote:
.... It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. All depends on what definition of "long" is and how much damage there is to restore for any given location...not terribly uncommon to be month or more for some locations if there are significant numbers of poles required or major transformers or the like...the more rural the more likely, but even urban areas can take quite a while if damage is severe enough. -- |
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On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 3:56:35 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 12-Sep-17 2:27 PM, Oren wrote: ... It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. All depends on what definition of "long" is and how much damage there is to restore for any given location...not terribly uncommon to be month or more for some locations if there are significant numbers of poles required or major transformers or the like...the more rural the more likely, but even urban areas can take quite a while if damage is severe enough. -- It took a week here in NJ after Sandy to restore power to my house. A friend took a couple days longer. They built his substation next to a river, in a low spot, a couple miles in from the ocean. Not too bright. His was one of the last in the area I think. |
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On 12-Sep-17 7:41 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 3:56:35 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote: On 12-Sep-17 2:27 PM, Oren wrote: ... It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. All depends on what definition of "long" is and how much damage there is to restore for any given location...not terribly uncommon to be month or more for some locations if there are significant numbers of poles required or major transformers or the like...the more rural the more likely, but even urban areas can take quite a while if damage is severe enough. -- It took a week here in NJ after Sandy to restore power to my house. A friend took a couple days longer. They built his substation next to a river, in a low spot, a couple miles in from the ocean. Not too bright. His was one of the last in the area I think. It took almost three months before the last permanent lines were back up near here (far SW KS) after the big ice event of about 6-7 years ago. About 30 miles without a single pole still standing to some of the outlying farmstead areas were the last. They did have temporary service after about the first month or so... -- |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:03:42 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:08:13 -0400, Dave C wrote: We recently bought a FL house, in the path of Irma. Alas we are not near by, to actually inspect our house. My question. The prior owner had installed Hurricane rated windows and sliiding doors. Clearly they are effective to flying debris. What I do not know, ma asking for advice : are hurricane rated "windows/ doors" also effective in limiting any water penetration. Our house is located in the Tampa area, directly on the Gulf shore - where high water surges have been reported. We were not "home" to put down sand bags and plastic barriers I don't know the exact answer, age of the house, the floor level or ground elevation, building codes used, etc. If water wants in, it can find away into the house. Especially; if the roof is ripped off or a neighbor's roof lands in the window. Thanks to all of the responders! As we now have power (New Port Rchey FL area) we soon find out if we had water penetration. On the bigger picture, we are glad to still have our "roof" intact Thx |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:15:02 -0400, Dave C wrote:
Thanks to all of the responders! As we now have power (New Port Rchey FL area) we soon find out if we had water penetration. On the bigger picture, we are glad to still have our "roof" intact Thx I was just thinking about the nuclear power plants. Florida shut down two -- Turkey Point and St. Lucie, both on the Atlantic coast. I suppose both up and running now. |
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On 09/12/2017 02:27 PM, Oren wrote:
[snip] It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. I'm about 180 miles from Houston. We recently had a bunch of trucks staged around here. -- 103 days until the winter celebration (Monday December 25, 2017 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Faith is a euphemism for prejudice and religion is a euphemism for superstition." [Paul Keller, American rationalist] |
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:20:13 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: It does not take long. States have inter-state agreements to help each other. A "memorandum of understanding". Trucks are staged in regions or in the state. I'm about 180 miles from Houston. We recently had a bunch of trucks staged around here. The Cajun Navy was there to help Houston. Real coon-asses not waiting for the Feds to save the day. They can cook some mean Gumbo. |
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