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John Deere May 19th 17 04:01 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY



Retired[_2_] May 19th 17 04:26 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On 5/19/17 11:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY



An engineer who has a marketful of buyers who do not want to undo the
front loader bucket, and wants to make quick work of clearing the snow.

Wish I had one .....

[email protected] May 20th 17 01:33 AM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On Fri, 19 May 2017 11:01:19 -0400, John Deere
wrote:


So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY

It simplifies the power transmission to the blower - front PTO is
complex, and hydraulic more expensive. Also with a BIG blower it is
harder to see past them on the road with them in front , and
positioning of the blower CAN be more precise with the rear wheel
steering.

Dean Hoffman[_12_] May 20th 17 04:12 AM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY

Practical ones. The back end of a traditional tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on the back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made for the rear end
three point lifts.

Erik[_7_] May 20th 17 02:51 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On 5/19/2017 11:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY



Damn, that makes my neck hurt just watching the video. I'd rather have a 700 series with 4wd drive and a front mounted blower.


Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_19_] May 20th 17 02:59 PM

John Dear
 
Miss Recktum is a blower of sailors, if that's relevant.
Personally, I'd just live in a climate where one doesn't need to "blow"
any snow.
But that costs money, which a lotta you wannabees ain't got.



Phil Kangas[_4_] May 20th 17 03:01 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the
BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as
well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY

Practical ones. The back end of a traditional
tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on the
back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made for
the rear end
three point lifts.


A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.


Unquestionably Confused[_4_] May 20th 17 05:15 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On 5/20/2017 9:01 AM, Phil Kangas wrote:

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY

Practical ones. The back end of a traditional tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on the back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made for the rear end
three point lifts.


A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.


It's all about the power. On a large tractor all the power, other than
to move it back and forth, is at the PTO. You see the plume of snow in
the video, it doesn't get that way with an auxiliary 12hp motor driving
that two-stage blower.

It may look like a PITA to operate but having BTDT in my yute with a
rear mounted blower and a 1000' driveway and paved area near the houses
and outbuildings, I can tell you it beats the crap out of a blade
mounted in front of a 4x4 - especially in drifts.


[email protected] May 20th 17 07:26 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On Sat, 20 May 2017 10:01:50 -0400, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:


"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the
BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as
well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY

Practical ones. The back end of a traditional
tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on the
back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made for
the rear end
three point lifts.


A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.

Yet the overwhelminh majority of snow blowers are 3 point hitch
mounted on the rear of tractors. Quite a few also have revered seats
and relocated steering for "dedicated snow removal" applications -
just like a fork lift.

[email protected] May 20th 17 07:30 PM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On Sat, 20 May 2017 11:15:22 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote:

On 5/20/2017 9:01 AM, Phil Kangas wrote:

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY
Practical ones. The back end of a traditional tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on the back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made for the rear end
three point lifts.


A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.


It's all about the power. On a large tractor all the power, other than
to move it back and forth, is at the PTO. You see the plume of snow in
the video, it doesn't get that way with an auxiliary 12hp motor driving
that two-stage blower.

It may look like a PITA to operate but having BTDT in my yute with a
rear mounted blower and a 1000' driveway and paved area near the houses
and outbuildings, I can tell you it beats the crap out of a blade
mounted in front of a 4x4 - especially in drifts.

And on a 2wd tractor the weight oif the blower over the drive wheels
beats having the weight out front, hands down, when you get into the
"real stuff".

Phil Kangas[_4_] May 21st 17 12:08 AM

John Deere snowblower question
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 May 2017 11:15:22 -0500, Unquestionably
Confused
wrote:

On 5/20/2017 9:01 AM, Phil Kangas wrote:

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the
BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as
well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY
Practical ones. The back end of a traditional
tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on
the back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made
for the rear end
three point lifts.

A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can
handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.


It's all about the power. On a large tractor all the
power, other than
to move it back and forth, is at the PTO. You see the
plume of snow in
the video, it doesn't get that way with an auxiliary 12hp
motor driving
that two-stage blower.

It may look like a PITA to operate but having BTDT in my
yute with a
rear mounted blower and a 1000' driveway and paved area
near the houses
and outbuildings, I can tell you it beats the crap out of
a blade
mounted in front of a 4x4 - especially in drifts.

And on a 2wd tractor the weight oif the blower over the
drive wheels
beats having the weight out front, hands down, when you
get into the
"real stuff".


The blower doesn't add weight to either front or rear. It is
in contact with the ground when in operation! ;)


Uncle Monster[_2_] May 21st 17 12:33 AM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 10:01:27 AM UTC-5, John Deere wrote:
So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the BACK of a tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY



Um, do you have heavy snow on the ground this time of year where you are. I have a little sister who lives in Alaska, there May(no pun) be snow there this time of year. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Snow Monster

[email protected] May 21st 17 02:31 AM

John Deere snowblower question
 
On Sat, 20 May 2017 19:08:41 -0400, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 20 May 2017 11:15:22 -0500, Unquestionably
Confused
wrote:

On 5/20/2017 9:01 AM, Phil Kangas wrote:

"Dean Hoffman" wrote in message
...
On 5/19/17 10:01 AM, John Deere wrote:

So what kind of engineer designs a snowthrower for the
BACK of a
tractor? Do these idiots drive to work in reverse as
well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXId0LRFwXY
Practical ones. The back end of a traditional
tractor can hold more
weight than the front end. And having the blower on
the back end
won't make steering harder.
Bale forks for the large round bales are also made
for the rear end
three point lifts.

A rear mount blower is a total fail! Sure, you can
handle
bales with a three-point but you are driving forward
to deliver the bale. A blower is on the ground when in
use and doesn't weigh that much to lift so weight is
not an issue. Try backing up with a blower in use and
you'll change your opinion FAST ! Rear mount sucks.

It's all about the power. On a large tractor all the
power, other than
to move it back and forth, is at the PTO. You see the
plume of snow in
the video, it doesn't get that way with an auxiliary 12hp
motor driving
that two-stage blower.

It may look like a PITA to operate but having BTDT in my
yute with a
rear mounted blower and a 1000' driveway and paved area
near the houses
and outbuildings, I can tell you it beats the crap out of
a blade
mounted in front of a 4x4 - especially in drifts.

And on a 2wd tractor the weight oif the blower over the
drive wheels
beats having the weight out front, hands down, when you
get into the
"real stuff".


The blower doesn't add weight to either front or rear. It is
in contact with the ground when in operation! ;)

Sometimes. Many a time I've taken 2 cuts with the blower. take it down
to a foot of snow on the first run, then scrape it down to bare on the
second run. A wind packed 4 foot drift over top of glare ice isn't a
lot of fun - even with chains on.


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