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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without
a SSN The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number.. Just the facts.
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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST)
trader_4 wrote: From: trader_4 Again you made up **** not in the story/crime/fraud eds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN The Social Security Administration paid $1 billion in benefits to individuals who did not have a Social Security Number (SSN), according to a new audit. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On 2/22/2017 3:15 PM, trader_4 wrote:
Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. No SS number? Are they working and avoiding SS and federal/state income taxes? And I suppose after they retire they expect SS payments for themselves. Fusking democrats! |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. WTF are you talking about. Usually, you give a URL for a reference. Are you okay? |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On 2/22/17 9:25 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. WTF are you talking about. Usually, you give a URL for a reference. Are you okay? Have you not heard of SSA's "Representative Payee" program ? Read he https://www.ssa.gov/payee/ |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:38:40 -0500, Retired wrote:
On 2/22/17 9:25 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. WTF are you talking about. Usually, you give a URL for a reference. Are you okay? Have you not heard of SSA's "Representative Payee" program ? Read he https://www.ssa.gov/payee/ What ever. I know folks can represent others. I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Oh, my question was to Trader! |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 7:44:06 PM UTC-6, Wayne Normandy wrote:
In article . com, ir says... On 2/22/2017 3:15 PM, trader_4 wrote: Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. No SS number? Are they working and avoiding SS and federal/state income taxes? And I suppose after they retire they expect SS payments for themselves. Fusking democrats! Ask that Uncle Monster guy how the disability scam works. Him and his shyster lawyers know all about it. Why don't you ask me about Social Security? I'm certainly not scamming Social Security since I've been disabled for 27 years but didn't apply for any government benefits until 2013 when I became too ill to work anymore. I haven't been able to walk since 2014. So tell me, how am I in on any Social Security scam? Who is this shyster lawyer I'm supposed to have working for me? ヽ(ヅ)ノ [8~{} Uncle Curious Monster |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
Oren wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:38:40 -0500, Retired wrote: On 2/22/17 9:25 PM, Oren wrote: On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. WTF are you talking about. Usually, you give a URL for a reference. Are you okay? Have you not heard of SSA's "Representative Payee" program ? Read he https://www.ssa.gov/payee/ What ever. I know folks can represent others. I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Oh, my question was to Trader! Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . -- Snag |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:25:39 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . Nope. I had the minimum 40 qtrs to file. Under my pension I wasn't required to pay SS, I paid into my federal pension CSRS. In '83 the FERS system required SS deductions but I stayed with CSRS. I had a SS offset and Medicare comes out of my SS which reduced my SS amount. $80 will pay some bill though. My pension stays the same but I get that pesky COLA ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Retirement_System "The Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) was organized in 1920 and has provided retirement, disability, and survivor benefits for most civilian employees in the United States federal government. Upon the creation of a new Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) in 1987, those newly hired after that date cannot participate in CSRS. CSRS continues to provide retirement benefits to those eligible to receive them. CSRS is a defined-benefit plan, akin to a pension. Notably, though, CSRS employees do not participate in Social Security (unless having worked in the private sector beforehand, and then subject to penalties). Employees hired after 1983 are required to be covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which is a three tiered retirement system with a smaller defined benefit (pension), Social Security, and a 401(k)-style system called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). The defined benefits of both the CSRS and the FERS systems are paid out of the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, which had a projected balance of $832 billion as of September 30, 2013." -- Liberals are like Chameleons. They keep changing colors. -- © Oren |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 4:52:24 PM UTC-5, Al Dente wrote:
On 2/22/2017 3:15 PM, trader_4 wrote: Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. No SS number? Are they working and avoiding SS and federal/state income taxes? And I suppose after they retire they expect SS payments for themselves. Fusking democrats! You can't collect social security retirement benefits without having worked and contributed into the system. And how much you get depends on your earnings history over your career. Again, this sensational story is about payments being made on the behalf of someone who is incapable of receiving the benefit directly themselves, so they have the monthly payment go to a caretaker, relative, or similar. It's apparently that person who has no SS # that the article addresses. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individualswithout a SSN
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:25:18 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:15:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: As usual, this isn't what the trumpet would have you believe. This doesn't say the benefits were not earned or received fraudulently. Example would be an 80 year old who worked 50 years for his ss, but because he's disabled, he has the payment going to his caretaker or partner, who has no ss number. Just the facts. WTF are you talking about. Usually, you give a URL for a reference. Are you okay? It was BTJ that posted the excerpt from the article. I suggest you direct your concerns about the lack of a URL to him. I just explained what his excerpt really means. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:34:49 -0600, RonNNN wrote:
In article , says... Oren wrote: I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Oh, my question was to Trader! Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . Maybe he was on welfare all of his life. Maybe you are dumber than I thought. I worked from age 12 and retired at age 50. Paid my own pension, made my bones my way. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
Oren wrote:
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:25:39 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . Nope. I had the minimum 40 qtrs to file. Under my pension I wasn't required to pay SS, I paid into my federal pension CSRS. In '83 the FERS system required SS deductions but I stayed with CSRS. I had a SS offset and Medicare comes out of my SS which reduced my SS amount. $80 will pay some bill though. My pension stays the same but I get that pesky COLA ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Retirement_System "The Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) was organized in 1920 and has provided retirement, disability, and survivor benefits for most civilian employees in the United States federal government. Upon the creation of a new Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) in 1987, those newly hired after that date cannot participate in CSRS. CSRS continues to provide retirement benefits to those eligible to receive them. CSRS is a defined-benefit plan, akin to a pension. Notably, though, CSRS employees do not participate in Social Security (unless having worked in the private sector beforehand, and then subject to penalties). Employees hired after 1983 are required to be covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which is a three tiered retirement system with a smaller defined benefit (pension), Social Security, and a 401(k)-style system called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). The defined benefits of both the CSRS and the FERS systems are paid out of the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, which had a projected balance of $832 billion as of September 30, 2013." I shoulda knowed . Dad worked CS from 1952 to 1978 (I think ir was '78) and had CSRS . Got dhowed the door on a medical , dunno how much he drew per month . -- Snag |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
What is your total SSI. and CSRS. ??????
"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ... Oren wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:25:39 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . Nope. I had the minimum 40 qtrs to file. Under my pension I wasn't required to pay SS, I paid into my federal pension CSRS. In '83 the FERS system required SS deductions but I stayed with CSRS. I had a SS offset and Medicare comes out of my SS which reduced my SS amount. $80 will pay some bill though. My pension stays the same but I get that pesky COLA ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Retirement_System "The Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) was organized in 1920 and has provided retirement, disability, and survivor benefits for most civilian employees in the United States federal government. Upon the creation of a new Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) in 1987, those newly hired after that date cannot participate in CSRS. CSRS continues to provide retirement benefits to those eligible to receive them. CSRS is a defined-benefit plan, akin to a pension. Notably, though, CSRS employees do not participate in Social Security (unless having worked in the private sector beforehand, and then subject to penalties). Employees hired after 1983 are required to be covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which is a three tiered retirement system with a smaller defined benefit (pension), Social Security, and a 401(k)-style system called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). The defined benefits of both the CSRS and the FERS systems are paid out of the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, which had a projected balance of $832 billion as of September 30, 2013." I shoulda knowed . Dad worked CS from 1952 to 1978 (I think ir was '78) and had CSRS . Got dhowed the door on a medical , dunno how much he drew per month . -- Snag |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:43:04 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: I shoulda knowed . Dad worked CS from 1952 to 1978 (I think ir was '78) and had CSRS . Got dhowed the door on a medical , dunno how much he drew per month . I've knew a couple of people that took CSRS medical retirements. They had to meet the minimum service time. I thing it was 5 years. IIRC there was a provision that you could be called for further medical evaluation to determine if you still qualified for a pension. If not, you lost it. Not sure how the amount was calculated. |
Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
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Feds paid $1 billion in Social Security benefits to individuals without a SSN
"trader_4" wrote in message ... On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-5, Tony944 wrote: "Ralph Mowery" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... What is your total SSI. and CSRS. ?????? "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ... Oren wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:25:39 -0600, "Terry Coombs" wrote: I just filed for SS on Tuesday (age 65). I get a WOPING $80 a month starting second week next month. Something wrong if you paid in all your working life and that's all you're getting back . I filed at 62 (just turned 65) and mine's a little over 1200/mo . Nope. I had the minimum 40 qtrs to file. Under my pension I wasn't required to pay SS, I paid into my federal pension CSRS. In '83 the FERS system required SS deductions but I stayed with CSRS. I had a SS offset and Medicare comes out of my SS which reduced my SS amount. $80 will pay some bill though. My pension stays the same but I get that pesky COLA ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Retirement_System "The Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS) was organized in 1920 and has provided retirement, disability, and survivor benefits for most civilian employees in the United States federal government. Upon the creation of a new Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS) in 1987, those newly hired after that date cannot participate in CSRS. CSRS continues to provide retirement benefits to those eligible to receive them. CSRS is a defined-benefit plan, akin to a pension. Notably, though, CSRS employees do not participate in Social Security (unless having worked in the private sector beforehand, and then subject to penalties). Employees hired after 1983 are required to be covered by the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), which is a three tiered retirement system with a smaller defined benefit (pension), Social Security, and a 401(k)-style system called the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP). The defined benefits of both the CSRS and the FERS systems are paid out of the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund, which had a projected balance of $832 billion as of September 30, 2013." I shoulda knowed . Dad worked CS from 1952 to 1978 (I think ir was '78) and had CSRS . Got dhowed the door on a medical , dunno how much he drew per month . The SS rules are very funny. Friend worked a job on regular SS, his wife worked for the VA Hospital. When they were both 65 he filed for SS and his wife kept working but could get a sum equal to half his SS. She worked to 70 and retired. Then her part of the SS quit and was then under the government retirement plan. That way they picked up an extra 700 or 800 dollar a month for about 5 years. The woman had never paid anyting to the SS. The government raided the SS money, did they raid the CSRD fund ? Bet not as that is government employees money. *** So sorry that is Gov. Employee Entitlements which do not pay in ; but people on SSI that paid in for they retirement that is not their Entitlement???? Scum bag's in Washington can raped SSI as they like; Like G. W. Bush for $1.7 Trillion to fight his war in Iraq without returning it back to SSI fund. More nonsense. There was no borrowing from the SS trust fund and no need to pay it back. By law, SS has always been invested in US Treasury securities, nothing there has changed. They could put the money into a bank, it would be the same thing and just as secure. Dear sir this is not new news that has being establish long go So sorry to say you are full???? |
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