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Gordon Shumway January 31st 17 12:36 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from
our previous faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation that mandates a reduced flow. There
appears to be nothing wrong with the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part was changed to
comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be replaced with an older version (full flow) part?

Dean Hoffman[_12_] January 31st 17 12:50 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On 1/30/17 6:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen
faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from our previous
faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation
that mandates a reduced flow. There appears to be nothing wrong with
the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part
was changed to comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be
replaced with an older version (full flow) part?


The strainer/filter at the end?

Ed Pawlowski January 31st 17 12:55 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On 1/30/2017 7:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from
our previous faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation that mandates a reduced flow. There
appears to be nothing wrong with the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part was changed to
comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be replaced with an older version (full flow) part?



Lavatory faucets are 1.5 gpm. Kitchen faucets are 2.2 gpm. Not a big
deal rinsing dishes, but PITA filling a big pot. At least some use the
aerator to restrict. I don't know how easily they can be modified though.

Oren[_2_] January 31st 17 01:05 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:55:12 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/30/2017 7:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from
our previous faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation that mandates a reduced flow. There
appears to be nothing wrong with the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part was changed to
comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be replaced with an older version (full flow) part?



Lavatory faucets are 1.5 gpm. Kitchen faucets are 2.2 gpm. Not a big
deal rinsing dishes, but PITA filling a big pot. At least some use the
aerator to restrict. I don't know how easily they can be modified though.


The aerator screen reduces splashing all over the sink :-)

Gordon Shumway January 31st 17 01:07 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:50:58 -0600, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 1/30/17 6:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen
faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from our previous
faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation
that mandates a reduced flow. There appears to be nothing wrong with
the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part
was changed to comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be
replaced with an older version (full flow) part?


The strainer/filter at the end?


I don't know. I sent an email to Moen, but I expect a reply that is drafted by a lawyer. There's a big plumbing supply
house near me and I'll call them and see if they have a recommendation.

[email protected] January 31st 17 01:42 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:55:12 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Lavatory faucets are 1.5 gpm. Kitchen faucets are 2.2 gpm. Not a big
deal rinsing dishes, but PITA filling a big pot. At least some use the
aerator to restrict. I don't know how easily they can be modified though.


A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Also, when you change a faucet, or work on any plumbing, pieces of
teflon tape, chunks of rust and whatever else is in the pipes will end
up in the screen on those aerators. Remove the aerator, run the water
at fill pressure for a minute, to flush out the pipes. Clean the
aerator, and reinstall it. ALWAYS do this when you work on plumbing, for
ALL faucets that may be affected.

If you get good pressure without the aerator, you can always buy a
replacement aerator without all the water saving crap. But try the other
things (above) first.


itsjoannotjoann January 31st 17 02:09 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:45:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:

A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Removing that washer looking thing will increase water flow. Ugh,
I hate them in showers.

Uncle Monster[_2_] January 31st 17 03:01 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 8:09:32 PM UTC-6, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:45:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:

A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Removing that washer looking thing will increase water flow. Ugh,
I hate them in showers.


When I was traveling around the Southeast running service calls, I, like my brother carried tools and my own shower head which had no flow restrictor. When I was ready to take a shower, I'd swap shower heads in my motel room so I could get clean. After getting clean, I'd reinstall the motel's shower head.ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Dirty Monster

[email protected] January 31st 17 03:36 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:09:29 -0800 (PST), ItsJoanNotJoann
wrote:

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:45:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:

A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Removing that washer looking thing will increase water flow. Ugh,
I hate them in showers.


Yea, more useless junk mandated by the govt. Mostly because of
ridiculous California laws. Sure, there are places in the US that have
to ration water, and parts of CA are included, but for most of us, we
have plenty of water, and dont need to conserve it. The good thing is
that they are easily removable. I agree the ones in showers are the
worst. I dont care to stand in the shower for 5 min, just to wait for
the limited water to wash off the soap.


micky January 31st 17 04:51 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:09:29 -0800 (PST),
ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:45:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:

A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Removing that washer looking thing will increase water flow. Ugh,
I hate them in showers.


When I moved in 1983, it was before anyone saved water, but I took out
the regular spray head and put in a high volume spray head. It's very
nice, but I almost never take showers.

Before I move out, I'll put the original one back and leave the new one
in the mediciine chest.

[email protected] January 31st 17 07:33 AM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 23:51:25 -0500, micky
wrote:

nice, but I almost never take showers.


You must really smell bad.........


burfordTjustice January 31st 17 12:39 PM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:07:38 -0600
Gordon Shumway wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:50:58 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 1/30/17 6:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen
faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from our previous
faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation
that mandates a reduced flow. There appears to be nothing wrong
with the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know
what part was changed to comply with a regulation to reduce flow
and can it be replaced with an older version (full flow) part?


The strainer/filter at the end?


I don't know. I sent an email to Moen, but I expect a reply that is
drafted by a lawyer. There's a big plumbing supply house near me and
I'll call them and see if they have a recommendation.


LOL you are purely Dependant on others and the government.


Bill Gill January 31st 17 02:11 PM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On 1/30/2017 8:09 PM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:45:37 PM UTC-6, wrote:

A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.

Removing that washer looking thing will increase water flow. Ugh,
I hate them in showers.

My shower is different. I put a little valve in to reduce the flow,
because I have high water pressure and the flow without the valve
is too high.

Bill


Bill Gill January 31st 17 02:12 PM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On 1/30/2017 6:36 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
I just installed a new Moen 7545, one handle, pull out kitchen faucet. There is a noticeable reduction in flow from
our previous faucet. I suspect this reduction is due to a government regulation that mandates a reduced flow. There
appears to be nothing wrong with the faucet other than a lower flow rate. Does anyone know what part was changed to
comply with a regulation to reduce flow and can it be replaced with an older version (full flow) part?

Now I have just the opposite. I replaced my 2 handle faucet with a
1 handle Pfister and the flow is greater than it was with the
old one.

Bill

Gordon Shumway January 31st 17 07:37 PM

New faucet - reduced flow
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:42:58 -0600, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:55:12 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Lavatory faucets are 1.5 gpm. Kitchen faucets are 2.2 gpm. Not a big
deal rinsing dishes, but PITA filling a big pot. At least some use the
aerator to restrict. I don't know how easily they can be modified though.


A lot of them aerators have a plasric thing that looks like a washer.
Has a hole about 1/8" in it. Just remove that piece and reinstall the
aerator. Or drill the hole bigger in it.


I noticed in the parts list that there are two part numbers for an O-Ring and Screen Washer Kit (1.5 gpm and 2.2 gpm).
There are also two part numbers for the Pull-Out Wand (1.5 gpm and 2.2 gpm).

I removed the O-Ring and Screen Washer and tested results and the difference was approximately what it would be from
1.5 to 2.2 gpm. No change was made to the Pull-Out Wand. I wonder if I got a 1.5 gpm version.

Damn tree huggers.

Also, when you change a faucet, or work on any plumbing, pieces of
teflon tape, chunks of rust and whatever else is in the pipes will end
up in the screen on those aerators. Remove the aerator, run the water
at fill pressure for a minute, to flush out the pipes. Clean the
aerator, and reinstall it. ALWAYS do this when you work on plumbing, for
ALL faucets that may be affected.

If you get good pressure without the aerator, you can always buy a
replacement aerator without all the water saving crap. But try the other
things (above) first.



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