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KenK January 19th 17 05:02 PM

Solid wood filler?
 
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA


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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.







trader_4 January 19th 17 05:07 PM

Solid wood filler?
 
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 12:02:49 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA


--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.


Auto body filler, which is epoxy with the consistency of putty.
It sets up in minutes, you can sand it in 30 mins and it's
preferable to do it then if needed, because it will sand easier
then when fully cured.

Ken[_6_] January 19th 17 05:34 PM

Solid wood filler?
 
KenK wrote:
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA


Have you thought of drilling out the hole to a larger size and inserting
a piece of metal, such as a pipe, where the L bolt fits tighter? That
would hold up better than a wood filler.

[email protected] January 19th 17 05:36 PM

Solid wood filler?
 
On 19 Jan 2017 17:02:45 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.
Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.
TIA




There is epoxy wood filler - but expensive and might not work with
your caulking failures .. and would be questionable for a heavy gate
that requires a 3/4 inch lag .. perhaps yours is 3/8 or 1/2 ?
If you drill-out the hole and glue in a "dowel" eg. broom handle
- the dowel will turn free as you screw in the lag - you would need
to square it .
Moving the hinge or replacing it with a dufferent type might be the
best bet.
http://www.murdochs.com/shop/nationa...298bc-pintles/

John T.


dadiOH[_7_] January 19th 17 08:25 PM

Solid wood filler?
 

"KenK" wrote in message
...
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.


If the wood is good - not rotted or soft - you could do this...

1. Chisel out the wood where the fasteners go making a hole that is 1/8 -
1/4 than the fastener all around. Making it wider toward the back would be
good. The hole need not be neat.

2. Get some epoxy resin, hardener and Cab-o-Sil filler. The latter is
fumed silica, very light and fluffy. and should be available at any place
that sells epoxy in cans (as opposed to tubes). You could use auto body
filler but the resin is polyester resin, not epoxy and the filler is
(mostly) talc. It should work but not as well as epoxy and not - maybe -
for as long.

3. Pour out enough epoxy to fill the enlarged hole. Add the filler to it
and mix it in. Continue adding filler until you have a paste about as thick
as peanut butter...thick enough so it stands up and doesn't run.

4. Add the proper amount of hardener to the paste mixing it very well.

5. Pack the paste into the hole.

6. Insert the fastener into the paste. Once inserted, do not move it.
Wipe off the paste that squeezes out.

7. Wait a day then sand if needed and paint.

If the wood is rotted, you could do the same thing, just make the hole big
enough to get to good wood.



[email protected] January 19th 17 08:57 PM

Solid wood filler?
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:25:45 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:


"KenK" wrote in message
...
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.


If the wood is good - not rotted or soft - you could do this...

1. Chisel out the wood where the fasteners go making a hole that is 1/8 -
1/4 than the fastener all around. Making it wider toward the back would be
good. The hole need not be neat.

2. Get some epoxy resin, hardener and Cab-o-Sil filler. The latter is
fumed silica, very light and fluffy. and should be available at any place
that sells epoxy in cans (as opposed to tubes). You could use auto body
filler but the resin is polyester resin, not epoxy and the filler is
(mostly) talc. It should work but not as well as epoxy and not - maybe -
for as long.

3. Pour out enough epoxy to fill the enlarged hole. Add the filler to it
and mix it in. Continue adding filler until you have a paste about as thick
as peanut butter...thick enough so it stands up and doesn't run.

4. Add the proper amount of hardener to the paste mixing it very well.

5. Pack the paste into the hole.

6. Insert the fastener into the paste. Once inserted, do not move it.
Wipe off the paste that squeezes out.

7. Wait a day then sand if needed and paint.

If the wood is rotted, you could do the same thing, just make the hole big
enough to get to good wood.


If you have a stainless or aluminum fabricator nearby you should be
able to talk them out of a coffee cup or two of filings. Both will be
pretty sturdy filler. Just be sure it is not ferric (magnetic).

[email protected] January 20th 17 02:17 AM

Solid wood filler?
 
On 19 Jan 2017 17:02:45 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA

WaterWeld putty from JB weld.

Dean Hoffman[_12_] January 20th 17 03:02 AM

Solid wood filler?
 
On 1/19/17 11:02 AM, KenK wrote:
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two
large diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The
gate has 'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it
swings back and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several
different caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid
enough to fill in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm
thinking of some kind of glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly
prefer not to have to replace the 2 x 4.

TIA


Would a gate hinge bolt that goes through the 2x4 be an option?
Something like this:
http://www.midlandhardware.com/372888.html?gclid=CLnslfbdz9ECFY06gQodLS8Jsw


Oren[_2_] January 20th 17 04:31 AM

Solid wood filler?
 
On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:02:55 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote:


Would a gate hinge bolt that goes through the 2x4 be an option?
Something like this:
http://www.midlandhardware.com/372888.html?gclid=CLnslfbdz9ECFY06gQodLS8Jsw


.... or maybe a wheel on the gate to support it :)

http://www.midlandhardware.com/622565.html

rbowman January 20th 17 05:53 AM

Solid wood filler?
 
On 01/19/2017 07:17 PM, wrote:
On 19 Jan 2017 17:02:45 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA

WaterWeld putty from JB weld.


Or pack steel wool into the hole.

Dick Smart January 20th 17 09:45 AM

Solid wood filler?
 
On 01/19/2017 12:02 PM, KenK wrote:
I have a yard gate that is causing me problems. Its 'hinges' are two large
diameter (3/4"?) 'L' shaped bolts that screw into 2 x 4s. The gate has
'brackets' that fit over the vertical part of the 'L' and it swings back
and forth. That's hard to describe and I likely failed.

Anyhow, one L-bolt is very loose in the 2x4. I tried several different
caulks but they do not set firmly anough and are not liquid enough to fill
in well around the bolt and hold it rigidly. I'm thinking of some kind of
glue instead. Suggestions? I would greatly prefer not to have to replace
the 2 x 4.

TIA



Can you move the entire hinge up or down a half inch and just drill new holes?


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