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charliesal7 December 9th 16 05:14 AM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82



[email protected] December 9th 16 05:45 AM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:14:02 +0000, charliesal7
m wrote:

I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


Short answer No
You have 15a fuses (plug breakers) in there indicating 14ga wire. You
need 10 ga wire and 30a fuses.
The disconnect will handle it, just not the wire.


philo December 9th 16 01:42 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On 12/08/2016 11:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:14:02 +0000, charliesal7
m wrote:

I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


Short answer No
You have 15a fuses (plug breakers) in there indicating 14ga wire. You
need 10 ga wire and 30a fuses.
The disconnect will handle it, just not the wire.




Correct. I'd put in an appropriate breaker box, those circuit breakers
that screw into a fuse slot are prone to failure.

John G[_8_] December 9th 16 02:10 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


You would need at least a 30 amp feed to that existing fuse box. I cannot tell what size wire is there from your photos, but something doesn't seem right. You may only have 120 volts there and no ground. I suggest that you have an electrician in to give you an estimate of what it would cost to connect a sauna.

John Grabowski
http;//www.MrElectrician.TV

Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_16_] December 9th 16 02:20 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On 12/8/2016 9:14 PM, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


I'd rather see a picture of yer wife's box.......... or mebbe not.
LOL


Mark H[_2_] December 9th 16 03:02 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-6, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


NO it looks like you only have 110 volts split to both fuse holders.

James Wilkinson Sword December 9th 16 04:54 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 05:14:02 -0000, charliesal7 m wrote:

I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


Why do people like to make themselves too hot, but not too cold?

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charliesal7 December 9th 16 05:14 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
replying to John G, charliesal7 wrote:
It is a 10 guage wire. If i connected the wire to a 240v switch in the house
could i replace the box on the garage without having to put in a thicker wire?

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charliesal7 December 9th 16 05:14 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
replying to John G, charliesal7 wrote:
It is a 10 guage wire. If i connected the wire to a 240v switch in the house
could i replace the box on the garage without having to put in a thicker wire?

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for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...s-1117190-.htm



[email protected] December 9th 16 05:23 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 06:10:39 -0800 (PST), John G
wrote:

I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


You would need at least a 30 amp feed to that existing fuse box. I cannot tell what size wire is there from your photos, but something doesn't seem right. You may only have 120 volts there and no ground. I suggest that you have an electrician in to give you an estimate of what it would cost to connect a sauna.

John Grabowski
http;//www.MrElectrician.TV


This is the right answer

John G[_8_] December 9th 16 05:34 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 

It is a 10 guage wire. If i connected the wire to a 240v switch in the house
could i replace the box on the garage without having to put in a thicker wire?



Possibly. You will need four conductors unless the sauna does not require a neutral. The other end will need to be connected to a two pole 30 amp circuit breaker. You will need a grounding conductor. You will also need to follow the manufacturer's installation instructions in addition to the National Electrical Code and local codes.

I am assuming that the existing circuits in that fuse box are no longer in use.

John Grabowski
http://www.MrElectrician.TV

[email protected] December 9th 16 05:40 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 07:02:58 -0800 (PST), Mark H
wrote:

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-6, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82


NO it looks like you only have 110 volts split to both fuse holders.

Not to mention the sauna installation WILL require a GFI breaker (at
least according to Ontario code)

[email protected] December 9th 16 05:44 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 17:14:01 +0000, charliesal7
m wrote:

replying to John G, charliesal7 wrote:
It is a 10 guage wire. If i connected the wire to a 240v switch in the house
could i replace the box on the garage without having to put in a thicker wire?


If the wire coming in is really 10 ga (it really does not look like
it) and you do not need a neutral in the sauna, it could work.
As was posted above, it is better to put in a breaker style
disconnect.
Reidentify the white wire to red on both ends, connect them to the
line side of the breaker, connect the wires to a 2 pole breaker in the
main panel.
You will have 240v but no 120v loads can be served.


CHARLES SALAMONE December 9th 16 06:44 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
replying to charliesal7, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
It is a 10 guage wire going from my house to the garage fuse box. If i
connected the wire to a 240v switch in the house could i replace the box in
the garage with one suitable for that sauna without having to put in a thicker
wire?

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CHARLES SALAMONE December 9th 16 06:44 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
replying to philo, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
do you know if the current 10 gauge wire that runs from my house will be
sufficient? the garage is about 50 feet away

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Grumpy Old White Guy December 9th 16 07:14 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On 12/9/2016 12:14 AM, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82



It looks like your "box" is only supplied by 2 wires ( line and neutral ) but I don't see a ground.

Installing a sauna heater without a ground would be against code and really quite dangerous.


CHARLES SALAMONE December 9th 16 07:44 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
replying to gfretwell, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
I am sorry, but what do you mean by "no 120v loads can be served?" When I
replace the garage fuse box with a breaker box I would like to have one 240v
switch for the sauna heater and two 120v switches for lights and outlets. And
the new breaker box will be connected to the 240v switch in the house through
the current 10 ga wire. Will that work?

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for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...s-1117190-.htm



Pat[_9_] December 9th 16 08:26 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:14:25 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

On 12/9/2016 12:14 AM, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82



It looks like your "box" is only supplied by 2 wires ( line and neutral ) but I don't see a ground.

Installing a sauna heater without a ground would be against code and really quite dangerous.

I think there is a ground in the picture. It is hard to see.

Ralph Mowery December 9th 16 08:52 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:14:25 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

On 12/9/2016 12:14 AM, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82



It looks like your "box" is only supplied by 2 wires ( line and neutral ) but I don't see a ground.

Installing a sauna heater without a ground would be against code and really quite dangerous.

I think there is a ground in the picture. It is hard to see.



As there seems to be just the line and neutral, isn't having 2 of the 15
amp fuses (they look like the breaker type) going to be too much if the
wires are # 12 or maybe # 14 ?



[email protected] December 9th 16 11:04 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 19:44:01 +0000, CHARLES SALAMONE
m wrote:

replying to gfretwell, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
I am sorry, but what do you mean by "no 120v loads can be served?" When I
replace the garage fuse box with a breaker box I would like to have one 240v
switch for the sauna heater and two 120v switches for lights and outlets. And
the new breaker box will be connected to the 240v switch in the house through
the current 10 ga wire. Will that work?


You don't have enough wires. With the 2 wire plus ground UF you have,
you can only serve one circuit, 120 or 240. If you want both you need
3 wire +g..

[email protected] December 9th 16 11:05 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 15:26:13 -0500, Pat wrote:

On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:14:25 -0500, Grumpy Old White Guy
wrote:

On 12/9/2016 12:14 AM, charliesal7 wrote:
I would like to connect a sauna heater in my garage. It is a 240v 23amp
heater. This picture is my box. Will it work?
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/81
http://www.homeownershub.com/img/82



It looks like your "box" is only supplied by 2 wires ( line and neutral ) but I don't see a ground.

Installing a sauna heater without a ground would be against code and really quite dangerous.

I think there is a ground in the picture. It is hard to see.


+1

philo December 9th 16 11:30 PM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On 12/09/2016 12:44 PM, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
replying to philo, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote:
do you know if the current 10 gauge wire that runs from my house will be
sufficient? the garage is about 50 feet away




Assuming it's copper wire it should be good for 30 amps


http://www.cerrowire.com/ampacity-charts

Dean Hoffman[_12_] December 10th 16 01:13 AM

can i connect a 240v to this?
 
On 12/9/16 5:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 19:44:01 +0000, CHARLES SALAMONE
m wrote:

replying to gfretwell, CHARLES SALAMONE wrote: I am sorry, but what
do you mean by "no 120v loads can be served?" When I replace the
garage fuse box with a breaker box I would like to have one 240v
switch for the sauna heater and two 120v switches for lights and
outlets. And the new breaker box will be connected to the 240v
switch in the house through the current 10 ga wire. Will that work?


You don't have enough wires. With the 2 wire plus ground UF you
have, you can only serve one circuit, 120 or 240. If you want both
you need 3 wire +g..

Could he put in a transformer to serve the lighting load?
Maybe a transfer switch to run either the sauna or the other stuff?
Cost might be an issue compared to running more wire.


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