Building a pole barn shop
I am wanting to build an extra garage because mine is full. I am
thinking of building a pole barn type with 2 garage doors. Probably 30x30. I have been fighting with the idea of building it myself. I have a tractor with a bucket available to me as well as an auger for the tractor. Any advice? How far are posts, trusses spaced? How do I ensure the building is square? |
Building a pole barn shop
"Don" wrote in message m... I am wanting to build an extra garage because mine is full. I am thinking of building a pole barn type with 2 garage doors. Probably 30x30. I have been fighting with the idea of building it myself. I have a tractor with a bucket available to me as well as an auger for the tractor. Any advice? How far are posts, trusses spaced? How do I ensure the building is square? Considering how basic your questions are, I'd recommend buying a book on the subject. If you think it is more than you can handle, consider having the basic structure framed and then finishing it yourself. Other alternatives are pre-fab kits, or hire a group of Amish farmers to come in and do it. Ed |
Building a pole barn shop
"Don" wrote in message m... I am wanting to build an extra garage because mine is full. I am thinking of building a pole barn type with 2 garage doors. Probably 30x30. I have been fighting with the idea of building it myself. I have a tractor with a bucket available to me as well as an auger for the tractor. Any advice? How far are posts, trusses spaced? How do I ensure the building is square? It's a fine DIY project. There are any number of "how to" books on the design and construction of pole buildings with specific examples, that's a better choice than relying entirely on r.c.m. free advice :-) Can also buy standard plans that give material dimensions and spacing with the engineering for a specific snow load. I've helped put up a few pole structures, tractor is a big help dropping posts into holes and lifting trusses. The most useful advice is to put a vapor barrier under the slab and wrap the frame with an "insulating vapor barrier" before attaching the skin. If you don't need clear interior space, save some trouble by building it on a grid of posts supporting individual 2x beams, much easier than dealing with trusses. Bob |
Building a pole barn shop
Any advice?
1) Get familiar with your building codes right now. They are there to keep people from making major mistakes. 2) This is not a DIY project. It is a DIO (ourselves) project. A two man crew is marginal, three is not bad, four will get the job done much better. How do I ensure the building is square? By knowing what you're doing (think equal diagonals). Your last question indicates limited knowledge of building methods. If financing a garage of this size is part of your plan, the bank may well be happier if you went with a supplier such as Morton Buildings or similar. You could have major problems finding materials that match their quality standards in the box stores. HTH Joe |
Building a pole barn shop
Don,
I have seen many pole barns go up in our area. A friend had one erected by an Aumish crew in about a week for a large building. It is straight, square and plumb. For the price, speed, and accuracy that these guys work, you cannot do it yourself. A neighbor had a garage put up between lunch and dinner one day, including gutters, roofing, doors and siding. It is nearly impossible to beat these guys that are pros in cost, aggrivation and accuracy. Bob in Central Illinois |
Building a pole barn shop
I have seen many pole barns go up in our area. A friend had one
erected by an Aumish crew in about a week for a large building. It is straight, square and plumb. For the price, speed, and accuracy that these guys work, you cannot do it yourself. A neighbor had a garage Framing a building and pouring a concrete floor are the two jobs I would never consider doing myself. Concrete gets hard too fast. One man can't do a framing job decently. Just have the frame and skin put up. You'll have plenty to do finishing the inside - this is most of the labor anyway. Karl |
Building a pole barn shop
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Building a pole barn shop
Do you want another project, or are you already fully booked up? Life is
short. Steve Smith Don wrote: I am wanting to build an extra garage because mine is full. I am thinking of building a pole barn type with 2 garage doors. Probably 30x30. I have been fighting with the idea of building it myself. I have a tractor with a bucket available to me as well as an auger for the tractor. Any advice? How far are posts, trusses spaced? How do I ensure the building is square? |
Building a pole barn shop
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Building a pole barn shop
If this works, the link below will show you photos of the building I built.
http://volcano.photobucket.com/albums/v11/cootbruce/ (Don) wrote in message om... I am wanting to build an extra garage because mine is full. I am thinking of building a pole barn type with 2 garage doors. Probably 30x30. I have been fighting with the idea of building it myself. I have a tractor with a bucket available to me as well as an auger for the tractor. Any advice? How far are posts, trusses spaced? How do I ensure the building is square? |
Building a pole barn shop
"Bruce" wrote in message om... Last bit of advice...If everything is square from the start, you roof sheets should go on square...this is about the only thing that is visible to anyone, that being the edges of your roof, if your eaves don't run right, everyone will see it....If you can figure out how to get the first roof panel on stright and square, then all the others will follow...( if you figure out how to do this,,then let me know, I took my roof off twice in order to correct it...it is still not streight) You can "adjust" the roof panels with a high rib pattern ( most common panel style ) on a roof over purlins by stretching ( or not ) the panels as you install them. The width of them changes a lot depending on how hard you press and flatten out the ribs ( especially over the common poly backed insulation) you can see the tons of fun I had installing them on my building at www.wacworkshop.com William.... |
Building a pole barn shop
Thanks for telling me how that "ought" to have been done. Now that I
think about it.....I should have tried that....Well...I am not taking it off for the third time!! You have quite the web site for your shop constuction, very nice.. Damn....now all I can think about is my roof.... Bruce "William" wrote in message news:78qfc.43171$rg5.83908@attbi_s52... "Bruce" wrote in message om... Last bit of advice...If everything is square from the start, you roof sheets should go on square...this is about the only thing that is visible to anyone, that being the edges of your roof, if your eaves don't run right, everyone will see it....If you can figure out how to get the first roof panel on stright and square, then all the others will follow...( if you figure out how to do this,,then let me know, I took my roof off twice in order to correct it...it is still not streight) You can "adjust" the roof panels with a high rib pattern ( most common panel style ) on a roof over purlins by stretching ( or not ) the panels as you install them. The width of them changes a lot depending on how hard you press and flatten out the ribs ( especially over the common poly backed insulation) you can see the tons of fun I had installing them on my building at www.wacworkshop.com William.... |
Building a pole barn shop
"Bruce" wrote in message om... Thanks for telling me how that "ought" to have been done. Now that I think about it.....I should have tried that....Well...I am not taking it off for the third time!! You have quite the web site for your shop constuction, very nice.. Damn....now all I can think about is my roof.... Bruce Thanks for the kind words, But mine is FAR from perfect! :-( As the builder you see things that others never will, in fact they are glaring to you, and all most invisible to most. Unless the roof leaks I would not worry about it not be "perfect" if I had, I wouldn't have ever finished ( well it's not finished yet I still have to hide the roof edge with the gutters :-) That way you will not be able to see the slight changes of the panels! The thing that really makes me mad is the misses on the perlins with the screws. I'm going to go up and remove the stitch screws from the miss holes and replace them with large head stainless rivets and use mastic under them and polyurethane calk over the heads. William "William" wrote in message news:78qfc.43171$rg5.83908@attbi_s52... "Bruce" wrote in message om... Last bit of advice...If everything is square from the start, you roof sheets should go on square...this is about the only thing that is visible to anyone, that being the edges of your roof, if your eaves don't run right, everyone will see it....If you can figure out how to get the first roof panel on stright and square, then all the others will follow...( if you figure out how to do this,,then let me know, I took my roof off twice in order to correct it...it is still not streight) You can "adjust" the roof panels with a high rib pattern ( most common panel style ) on a roof over purlins by stretching ( or not ) the panels as you install them. The width of them changes a lot depending on how hard you press and flatten out the ribs ( especially over the common poly backed insulation) you can see the tons of fun I had installing them on my building at www.wacworkshop.com William.... |
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