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PLUG-IN SMOKE DETECTORS
Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired
smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some code that no one seems to be able to document) BTW- in some Arab countries, the code says it is not a punishable offense for a man to have sex with a female animal, but having sex with a male animal is punsihable by DEATH ( I would include any code that prohibits the installation of a plug-in smoke detector- with the above) |
PLUG-IN SMOKE DETECTORS
"misterfact" wrote in message m... Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some code that no one seems to be able to document) Buy some property _anywhere_ in the USA, pull the permits, build a house, wire it yourself and leave out the (NFPA 72 required) 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_, and interconnected smoke alarms. Then call for a CO. I will guarantee you that you or anyone else will _never_ legally live in that house until the 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_ and interconnected smoke alarms are installed in the correct locations in that house. Same usually applies for existing houses that are totally rewired/remodeled. Many areas (in accordance with NFPA 72) will allow battery-only smoke detectors in _existing_ homes. In those cases where a battery only smoke detector is permitted, yes, a plug-in 120v/with battery backup smoke detector would be an improvement. HOWEVER, NFPA 72 makes it clear that these are STOP GAP measures at best, and the best solution is to install _hardwired_ , interconnected, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors. Call your local Fire Marshall for the straight dope. The smoke detector that I referred to in the last thread on this topic, http://www.marilynelectronics.net/pr...ors/7109LS.htm, as others pointed out, is intended for use by hearing impaired people, in ADDITION to a hardwired system, or, as permitted by NFPA 72 _and_ your local fire authorities where battery only smoke detectors are permitted (EXISTING houses). At $200 bux a pop, I'm sure that you won't have any problem finding an electrical contractor who will install a 120v/with battery backup, hardwired, interconnected system for the same price per smoke. The NFPA72 battery-only smoke detector clause is intended to ease the transition from houses that originally never had smoke detectors to the now required hardwired smoke detectors. The point many others were trying to make in the other thread was that you will _never_ buy a _new_ house in the USA that doesn't have hardwired, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors in the proper locations. Some AHJ's/lending institutions/insurance companies, will require that existing houses be brought up to fire code before transfer of ownership can occur. Bottom line is this. Should someone decide to do as you propose, it is strongly recommended that one check with their local Fire Marshall and their insurance company _first_. If your intention is to disallow battery-only smoke detectors in favor of plug-in 120v/with battery backup smokes, that may be a step in the right direction. However, IMO, DIY, homeowner jerry-rigged smokes is not the way to go, and even if they were store bought, UL listed, and NFPA 72 approved, as soon as some little kid (or an irresponsible adult) unplugs one, you're right back to square one with the battery-only smoke, which you so adamantly oppose. |
MISTERFACT PLUGS IN MORON SMOKE DETECTORS
Its been documented moron . Just look it up its code , lazy ass. But
then your the guy who thought moron was spelled MoRRon , moron. Maybe taking up an anti Martha Stewart campain would be easier at www.MarthaStewartThatsaBadThing.com. www.MarthaStewartPrisonDecorating.com. www.MarthaStewartPrisonClothes.com www.MarthaStewartSucks.com. Or maybe try throwaway diapers stink and dont biodegrade www.smellypoop.com www.itwillstinkforever.com Or maybe i will open www.MisterFactTheMORON.com |
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So you beleive in sex with animals .They give polyps or didnt you know
I Knew you were a weird one. Move back to your Arab homeland Moron. |
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PLUG-IN SMOKE DETECTORS
"volts500" wrote in message .com...
"misterfact" wrote in message m... Still waiting to hear how splicing an electrical cord onto a hardwired smoke detector and then securing it into the receptacle with a bracket-is so damn DANGEROUS! (other than it is a violation of some code that no one seems to be able to document) Buy some property _anywhere_ in the USA, pull the permits, build a house, wire it yourself and leave out the (NFPA 72 required) 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_, and interconnected smoke alarms. Then call for a CO. I will guarantee you that you or anyone else will _never_ legally live in that house until the 120v/with battery backup, _hardwired_ and interconnected smoke alarms are installed in the correct locations in that house. Same usually applies for existing houses that are totally rewired/remodeled. Many areas (in accordance with NFPA 72) will allow battery-only smoke detectors in _existing_ homes. In those cases where a battery only smoke detector is permitted, yes, a plug-in 120v/with battery backup smoke detector would be an improvement. HOWEVER, NFPA 72 makes it clear that these are STOP GAP measures at best, and the best solution is to install _hardwired_ , interconnected, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors. Call your local Fire Marshall for the straight dope. The smoke detector that I referred to in the last thread on this topic, http://www.marilynelectronics.net/pr...ors/7109LS.htm, as others pointed out, is intended for use by hearing impaired people, in ADDITION to a hardwired system, or, as permitted by NFPA 72 _and_ your local fire authorities where battery only smoke detectors are permitted (EXISTING houses). At $200 bux a pop, I'm sure that you won't have any problem finding an electrical contractor who will install a 120v/with battery backup, hardwired, interconnected system for the same price per smoke. The NFPA72 battery-only smoke detector clause is intended to ease the transition from houses that originally never had smoke detectors to the now required hardwired smoke detectors. The point many others were trying to make in the other thread was that you will _never_ buy a _new_ house in the USA that doesn't have hardwired, 120v/with battery backup smoke detectors in the proper locations. Some AHJ's/lending institutions/insurance companies, will require that existing houses be brought up to fire code before transfer of ownership can occur. Bottom line is this. Should someone decide to do as you propose, it is strongly recommended that one check with their local Fire Marshall and their insurance company _first_. If your intention is to disallow battery-only smoke detectors in favor of plug-in 120v/with battery backup smokes, that may be a step in the right direction. However, IMO, DIY, homeowner jerry-rigged smokes is not the way to go, and even if they were store bought, UL listed, and NFPA 72 approved, as soon as some little kid (or an irresponsible adult) unplugs one, you're right back to square one with the battery-only smoke, which you so adamantly oppose. Bravo! Someone finally actually READ my post and caught on! If some kid unplugs it- you still have the battery back-up! Bravo! But then your back to the cheap 9v. dead battery situation- so get smart- read my post again and you'll see that I suggested SCREWING IT WITH A BRACKET INTO THE CENTER SCREW OF THE WALL RECEPTACLE (WITH A CHILPROOF SCREW-LIKE AN ALLEN HEAD OR STAR). Why you ever thought I suggested this as a replacement for hardwired- I'll never know! It's the cheapest and most reliable way to go. If it isn't approved by some code- it's probably because it eliminates the need for an electrician. Good electrical splices are not refered to as "jerry-rigged" by the way! |
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