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? kenmore washer repair tech advice
i've got a 12yr + kenmore series 60 washer that needs repair. i've
looked at the spec drawings at sears.com and am not sure..... the thing runs fine, except during spin cycle = the center agitator, while spinning with the barrel, develops this grinding noise - sounds like teeth on a gear - and as the barrel picks up speed, the agitator 'grabs' and stops for a moment - with a loud bang!. the whole unit continues on and spins normally and the 'grind and bang' continue. if i open the lid during spin and physically grab the agitator and hold it still during active spin cycle, the unit runs on, finishes spin cycle and drains. the grinding sound appears to be coming from within the barrel and not from below. i guess my ? is.... will this be the brake mechanism? or will it be the clutch mechanism? i dont know enough about the functin of these systems and am unsure that if i get it apart i will be able to tell the bad part(s)...also any tricks for reassembly of unit i should know??? thanks |
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? kenmore - i did that and...
The agitator should just -go along for the ride- during the spin mode....possible something inside the agitator is worn/broken or the noise is from the gearbox. Brake and or clutch should effect the spin from working normally if they where giving problems. Maybe take the agitator out and try a spin to see what noises occur or what happens?? the agitator just comes off of a gear that goes down into a stationary shaft. the noises stay the same. still sounds to me like it comes from this shaft where the brake and clutch are (according to the diagrams avail at the sears site). the only part of this cycle that is affected is 'spin', when the agitator drive shaft grinds and catches. the faster it spins the more it grinds until it goes BANG and jerks the agitator to a stop. i thought that it spun free which is why i did something stupid like grabbing it while spinning. something from the drum spin mechanism is catching onto the agitator shaft. i dont suspect the gearbox because it agitates well (cant grab it then!!!) and diagrams show gearbox below the drum, not in it. any more ideas? please? the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech, just sell parts they have no clue about. unit is kenmore 110.81662100 60 series washer jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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? kenmore - i did that and...
(spacekase) wrote in message . com...
The agitator should just -go along for the ride- during the spin mode....possible something inside the agitator is worn/broken or the noise is from the gearbox. Brake and or clutch should effect the spin from working normally if they where giving problems. Maybe take the agitator out and try a spin to see what noises occur or what happens?? the agitator just comes off of a gear that goes down into a stationary shaft. the noises stay the same. still sounds to me like it comes from this shaft where the brake and clutch are (according to the diagrams avail at the sears site). the only part of this cycle that is affected is 'spin', when the agitator drive shaft grinds and catches. the faster it spins the more it grinds until it goes BANG and jerks the agitator to a stop. i thought that it spun free which is why i did something stupid like grabbing it while spinning. something from the drum spin mechanism is catching onto the agitator shaft. i dont suspect the gearbox because it agitates well (cant grab it then!!!) and diagrams show gearbox below the drum, not in it. any more ideas? please? the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech, just sell parts they have no clue about. unit is kenmore 110.81662100 60 series washer jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ Hi, Kinda -sounds- ( no pun intended ) like the tranny/gearbox is making those noises if the agitator is still engaged during the spin mode. Loose/worn basket nut and drive block can make noises but usually won't effect the agitator. Some checks for the clutch and such.... http://tinyurl.com/2nd9h the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech http://www.appliancerepair.net/freeb...00.htm?toc.htm *Some* washer helps. jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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? kenmore washer repair tech advice
(jeff) wrote in message . com...
(spacekase) wrote in message . com... The agitator should just -go along for the ride- during the spin mode....possible something inside the agitator is worn/broken or the noise is from the gearbox. Brake and or clutch should effect the spin from working normally if they where giving problems. Maybe take the agitator out and try a spin to see what noises occur or what happens?? the agitator just comes off of a gear that goes down into a stationary shaft. the noises stay the same. still sounds to me like it comes from this shaft where the brake and clutch are (according to the diagrams avail at the sears site). the only part of this cycle that is affected is 'spin', when the agitator drive shaft grinds and catches. the faster it spins the more it grinds until it goes BANG and jerks the agitator to a stop. i thought that it spun free which is why i did something stupid like grabbing it while spinning. something from the drum spin mechanism is catching onto the agitator shaft. i dont suspect the gearbox because it agitates well (cant grab it then!!!) and diagrams show gearbox below the drum, not in it. any more ideas? please? the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech, just sell parts they have no clue about. unit is kenmore 110.81662100 60 series washer jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ Hi, Kinda -sounds- ( no pun intended ) like the tranny/gearbox is making those noises if the agitator is still engaged during the spin mode. Loose/worn basket nut and drive block can make noises but usually won't effect the agitator. Some checks for the clutch and such.... http://tinyurl.com/2nd9h the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech http://www.appliancerepair.net/freeb...00.htm?toc.htm *Some* washer helps. jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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? kenmore - i did that and...
(jeff) wrote in message . com...
(spacekase) wrote in message . com... The agitator should just -go along for the ride- during the spin mode....possible something inside the agitator is worn/broken or the noise is from the gearbox. Brake and or clutch should effect the spin from working normally if they where giving problems. Maybe take the agitator out and try a spin to see what noises occur or what happens?? the agitator just comes off of a gear that goes down into a stationary shaft. the noises stay the same. still sounds to me like it comes from this shaft where the brake and clutch are (according to the diagrams avail at the sears site). the only part of this cycle that is affected is 'spin', when the agitator drive shaft grinds and catches. the faster it spins the more it grinds until it goes BANG and jerks the agitator to a stop. i thought that it spun free which is why i did something stupid like grabbing it while spinning. something from the drum spin mechanism is catching onto the agitator shaft. i dont suspect the gearbox because it agitates well (cant grab it then!!!) and diagrams show gearbox below the drum, not in it. any more ideas? please? the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech, just sell parts they have no clue about. unit is kenmore 110.81662100 60 series washer jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ Hi, Kinda -sounds- ( no pun intended ) like the tranny/gearbox is making those noises if the agitator is still engaged during the spin mode. Loose/worn basket nut and drive block can make noises but usually won't effect the agitator. Some checks for the clutch and such.... http://tinyurl.com/2nd9h the sears site is junk and they dont offer tech http://www.appliancerepair.net/freeb...00.htm?toc.htm *Some* washer helps. jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ thanks jeff now that you describe it like that, i agree. it seems like the agitator is sort of engaging during the spin cycle. not good. because i can grab it and stop the event and i only notice it when spin speed increases i suspect worn part in agitator linkage. maybe transmission? anyway. your first link was nice - pics and all. helps a novice like me keep act together. your second link gave me a script error and 'page not available' screen, and wont back button from there either. what sucks - and why i delay - is that i worry i'll get the thing apart and not be able to tell the bad part. probably just a matter of nerves and guts. gotta go for it and just find out.... |
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? kenmore - i did that and...
Hi,
thanks jeff now that you describe it like that, i agree. it seems like the agitator is sort of engaging during the spin cycle. not good. because i can grab it and stop the event and i only notice it when spin speed increases i suspect worn part in agitator linkage. maybe transmission? anyway. your first link was nice - pics and all. helps a novice like me keep act together. your second link gave me a script error and 'page not available' screen, and wont back button from there either. http://www.appliancerepair.net/spsr/a1parts/ Another try what sucks - and why i delay - is that i worry i'll get the thing apart and not be able to tell the bad part. probably just a matter of nerves and guts. gotta go for it and just find out.... jeff. Appliance Repair Aid http://www.applianceaid.com/ |
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