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"antique nickel" screws?
We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors
in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) -- Remove YOUR CLOTHES to email me. |
"antique nickel" screws?
if you only problem is the new screws not filling the holes left by the
previous screws, just fill the holes with some wood glue and dowels or toothpicks. if you just want longer screws for strength, then happy hunting for antique nickel. Instead of using regular zinc plated screws, maybe cosider stainless steel, a lot more expensive but maybe a little closer in look. good luck |
"antique nickel" screws?
I agree, fill the existing holes with toothpicks and wood glue (the white or
yellow stuff) and use the supplied screws into the newly-filled holes. Toothpicks are made from hardwood and will hold better in most cases than the original wood. Coat each toothpick in glue and use one to put more glue in the hole. If you use the tapered variety, alternate large and small ends forcing as many in the holes as possible and break them off flush. If you feel the supplied screws are not large enough to provide the needed support, there's a good chance the hinges aren't either. John "blue" wrote in message ... We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) -- Remove YOUR CLOTHES to email me. |
"antique nickel" screws?
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"antique nickel" screws?
John W wrote:
I agree, fill the existing holes with toothpicks and wood glue (the white or yellow stuff) and use the supplied screws into the newly-filled holes. Toothpicks are made from hardwood and will hold better in most cases than the original wood. Coat each toothpick in glue and use one to put more glue in the hole. If you use the tapered variety, alternate large and small ends forcing as many in the holes as possible and break them off flush. Toothpicks will hold better than the original wood? I had no idea. We were very worried about the supplied screws, they are simply #6, 3/4" or something like that. Seems pretty small for a solid wood door (original doors from the house built in 1950). I thought that these screws were for the new hollow doors which are much lighter. If you feel the supplied screws are not large enough to provide the needed support, there's a good chance the hinges aren't either. You guys really think toothpicks, glue and the puny screws will hold? I wasn't too worried about the hinges as our replacements are by the same company, same size, etc. as the originals which have held up the doors since 1950 (or maybe the previous owner simply kept adding bigger screws as the doors started to fall off :-) John "blue" wrote in message ... We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) |
"antique nickel" screws?
I've never seen hollow cupboard doors - in fact, the new "cheap" doors are
often made from MDF which is actually heavier than solid wood and does not hold a screw as well. Assuming these hinges are intended for use on cupboard doors and unless you have a wife or kids that like to hang on the doors, the supplied screws should be fine (and the toothpick & glue fix is a fairly SOP). As a worst case, if you did have problems at some point in the future, you can still switch to a larger screw. John "blue" wrote in message ... John W wrote: I agree, fill the existing holes with toothpicks and wood glue (the white or yellow stuff) and use the supplied screws into the newly-filled holes. Toothpicks are made from hardwood and will hold better in most cases than the original wood. Coat each toothpick in glue and use one to put more glue in the hole. If you use the tapered variety, alternate large and small ends forcing as many in the holes as possible and break them off flush. Toothpicks will hold better than the original wood? I had no idea. We were very worried about the supplied screws, they are simply #6, 3/4" or something like that. Seems pretty small for a solid wood door (original doors from the house built in 1950). I thought that these screws were for the new hollow doors which are much lighter. If you feel the supplied screws are not large enough to provide the needed support, there's a good chance the hinges aren't either. You guys really think toothpicks, glue and the puny screws will hold? I wasn't too worried about the hinges as our replacements are by the same company, same size, etc. as the originals which have held up the doors since 1950 (or maybe the previous owner simply kept adding bigger screws as the doors started to fall off :-) John "blue" wrote in message ... We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) |
"antique nickel" screws?
"John W" wrote in message ... I've never seen hollow cupboard doors - in fact, the new "cheap" doors are often made from MDF which is actually heavier than solid wood and does not hold a screw as well. Assuming these hinges are intended for use on cupboard doors...... Cupboard doors? Has my news server failed again to download messages? |
"antique nickel" screws?
Reading between the lines again?
If blue is talking about interior doors (and not cupboard doors), it would seem odd that hinges intended for that purpose would come with 3/4" long screws. Screws of that length (and the hinges they come with) are generally intended for cupboard doors since they need to be short enough to not go through the door... Or, perhaps he got the wrong hinges? John W "PhotoMan" wrote in message ... "John W" wrote in message ... I've never seen hollow cupboard doors - in fact, the new "cheap" doors are often made from MDF which is actually heavier than solid wood and does not hold a screw as well. Assuming these hinges are intended for use on cupboard doors...... Cupboard doors? Has my news server failed again to download messages? |
"antique nickel" screws?
I was indeed talking about interior doors, and those I am pretty sure
often come hollow now a days. Oh, and I do have kids and a spouse who will surely hang on the bathroom door, bedroom door, etc. :-) I am sure I bought the right hinges, 3.5" Stanley steel door hinges. The size matches with the previous hinges on the doors. I believe I was wrong about the screw size that came with them though, it looks like they are #8, 3/4". Still pretty short for holding up a solid wood bedroom door I thought, especially if the previous hole held larger and longer screws. But heck if the glue and toothpicks will work I'm game to try, just don't want to put in all that effort if the doors are eventually going to fall off the frames. :-) John W wrote: I've never seen hollow cupboard doors - in fact, the new "cheap" doors are often made from MDF which is actually heavier than solid wood and does not hold a screw as well. Assuming these hinges are intended for use on cupboard doors and unless you have a wife or kids that like to hang on the doors, the supplied screws should be fine (and the toothpick & glue fix is a fairly SOP). As a worst case, if you did have problems at some point in the future, you can still switch to a larger screw. John "blue" wrote in message ... John W wrote: I agree, fill the existing holes with toothpicks and wood glue (the white or yellow stuff) and use the supplied screws into the newly-filled holes. Toothpicks are made from hardwood and will hold better in most cases than the original wood. Coat each toothpick in glue and use one to put more glue in the hole. If you use the tapered variety, alternate large and small ends forcing as many in the holes as possible and break them off flush. Toothpicks will hold better than the original wood? I had no idea. We were very worried about the supplied screws, they are simply #6, 3/4" or something like that. Seems pretty small for a solid wood door (original doors from the house built in 1950). I thought that these screws were for the new hollow doors which are much lighter. If you feel the supplied screws are not large enough to provide the needed support, there's a good chance the hinges aren't either. You guys really think toothpicks, glue and the puny screws will hold? I wasn't too worried about the hinges as our replacements are by the same company, same size, etc. as the originals which have held up the doors since 1950 (or maybe the previous owner simply kept adding bigger screws as the doors started to fall off :-) John "blue" wrote in message ... We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) |
"antique nickel" screws?
Ok - starting to make more sense now (except as to why the supplied screws
are so short?). As I said previously though, worst case scenerio is you may need to replace a few screws at some point in the future. Filling the old holes with toothpicks and glue is a good idea even if you you go with larger screws since it is quite likely even the larger screws wouldn't work in some of the holes. Since these are just door hinges though, they are generally less-visable than cupboard hinges so a mis-match would not be as noticeble so you could go with plain-old zinc plated screws. You'd need #8 bugle-headed (I assume) so that the heads fit in the hinges properly. If you wanted, you could replace just 2 screws per hinge with longer ones (one on the frame side and one on the door side). John W "blue" wrote in message news:0xgYb.520264$JQ1.371643@pd7tw1no... I was indeed talking about interior doors, and those I am pretty sure often come hollow now a days. Oh, and I do have kids and a spouse who will surely hang on the bathroom door, bedroom door, etc. :-) I am sure I bought the right hinges, 3.5" Stanley steel door hinges. The size matches with the previous hinges on the doors. I believe I was wrong about the screw size that came with them though, it looks like they are #8, 3/4". Still pretty short for holding up a solid wood bedroom door I thought, especially if the previous hole held larger and longer screws. But heck if the glue and toothpicks will work I'm game to try, just don't want to put in all that effort if the doors are eventually going to fall off the frames. :-) John W wrote: I've never seen hollow cupboard doors - in fact, the new "cheap" doors are often made from MDF which is actually heavier than solid wood and does not hold a screw as well. Assuming these hinges are intended for use on cupboard doors and unless you have a wife or kids that like to hang on the doors, the supplied screws should be fine (and the toothpick & glue fix is a fairly SOP). As a worst case, if you did have problems at some point in the future, you can still switch to a larger screw. John "blue" wrote in message ... John W wrote: I agree, fill the existing holes with toothpicks and wood glue (the white or yellow stuff) and use the supplied screws into the newly-filled holes. Toothpicks are made from hardwood and will hold better in most cases than the original wood. Coat each toothpick in glue and use one to put more glue in the hole. If you use the tapered variety, alternate large and small ends forcing as many in the holes as possible and break them off flush. Toothpicks will hold better than the original wood? I had no idea. We were very worried about the supplied screws, they are simply #6, 3/4" or something like that. Seems pretty small for a solid wood door (original doors from the house built in 1950). I thought that these screws were for the new hollow doors which are much lighter. If you feel the supplied screws are not large enough to provide the needed support, there's a good chance the hinges aren't either. You guys really think toothpicks, glue and the puny screws will hold? I wasn't too worried about the hinges as our replacements are by the same company, same size, etc. as the originals which have held up the doors since 1950 (or maybe the previous owner simply kept adding bigger screws as the doors started to fall off :-) John "blue" wrote in message ... We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) |
"antique nickel" screws?
blue wrote:
We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) Had a similar issue with a new exterior door. I drilled out the old screw holes and filled them with 3/8" dowels, the 1-1/2" long, splined kind made for joinery. A decent hardware store should have them. I then drilled new pilot holes for the screws. |
"antique nickel" screws?
Kai Seymour wrote:
blue wrote: We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. If anyone knows of a place (online or otherwise, but perferably Canadian or at least ships to Canada) that might offer this colour of screw in the lengths I need, that would be great. Else we'll stick with plain old silver since I am sure no one will notice they don't match but me. :-) Had a similar issue with a new exterior door. I drilled out the old screw holes and filled them with 3/8" dowels, the 1-1/2" long, splined kind made for joinery. A decent hardware store should have them. I then drilled new pilot holes for the screws. I don't think I would do that -- you're drilling into end-grain. I would break off a matchstick or two in the old screw holes and use the new screws. Best regards, Bob |
"antique nickel" screws?
I've switched to bamboo skewers instead of toothpicks. Stiffer fibers
but still end grain. On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:23:42 -0600, zxcvbob wrote: Had a similar issue with a new exterior door. I drilled out the old screw holes and filled them with 3/8" dowels, the 1-1/2" long, splined kind made for joinery. A decent hardware store should have them. I then drilled new pilot holes for the screws. I don't think I would do that -- you're drilling into end-grain. I would break off a matchstick or two in the old screw holes and use the new screws. |
"antique nickel" screws?
Kai Seymour wrote in message hlink.net... blue wrote: We bought some Stanley hinges as replacements for the solid wood doors in our home. The hinges are in the colour "antique nickel". The supplied screws are tiny and definately will not fit into the place of the old screws which were #8 - #10, 1.5" - 3" (love how the previous owners were consistent! :-). Anyhow, are there screws available in this "antique nickel" in much larger sizes? I've done some Googling and have come up with screws in alternative colours such as "antique brass" (which doesn't match) but have only found them in lengths up to 1". Our local Home Depot, Rona, etc. didn't have anything. the mcmaster-carr catalog (#104) pg2487 under heading wood screws, shows #6-10 phillips head, nickel plated brass screws up to 2 1/2" from $9-16 US per100 unless where noted some packs are 50 |
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