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KS7J July 1st 03 12:09 AM

durock directly to 2x8 t&g subfloor?
 
Hi All,

Bathroom project coming up. Part of it is to replace a wood parquet
floor with ceramic tile. Parquet is 3/8" thick over 1/2 or 5/8"
particle board over 2x8 T&G subflooring (nominally 1-5/8" thick). I'm
concerned about achieving the same level on the new floor.

Can I remove the particle underlayment and screw concrete backer board
(Durock aka Hardi-backer, etc.) directly to the T&G subfloor? My
instinct says it is stiff enough without additional plywood
underlayment. If I have to put a plywood base on top of the T&G I have
no hope of getting the tile floor to the same level as the current
floor.

TIA,

Casey

Carpenter Ant July 1st 03 01:23 AM

durock directly to 2x8 t&g subfloor?
 

"KS7J" wrote in message
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Hi All,

Bathroom project coming up. Part of it is to replace a wood parquet
floor with ceramic tile. Parquet is 3/8" thick over 1/2 or 5/8"
particle board over 2x8 T&G subflooring (nominally 1-5/8" thick). I'm
concerned about achieving the same level on the new floor.

Can I remove the particle underlayment and screw concrete backer board
(Durock aka Hardi-backer, etc.) directly to the T&G subfloor? My
instinct says it is stiff enough without additional plywood
underlayment. If I have to put a plywood base on top of the T&G I have
no hope of getting the tile floor to the same level as the current
floor.

TIA,




YES YOU CAN

C.A.
Casey




Tim Johnson July 1st 03 04:34 PM

durock directly to 2x8 t&g subfloor?
 
KS7J wrote:

Hi All,

Bathroom project coming up. Part of it is to replace a wood parquet
floor with ceramic tile. Parquet is 3/8" thick over 1/2 or 5/8"
particle board over 2x8 T&G subflooring (nominally 1-5/8" thick). I'm
concerned about achieving the same level on the new floor.

Can I remove the particle underlayment and screw concrete backer board
(Durock aka Hardi-backer, etc.) directly to the T&G subfloor? My
instinct says it is stiff enough without additional plywood
underlayment. If I have to put a plywood base on top of the T&G I have
no hope of getting the tile floor to the same level as the current
floor.

TIA,

Casey


Read this: http://www.ttmac.com/deflection_limitations.htm

And forget the screws on the underlayment. You can apply the
underlayment over the T&G using tile mastic and 1-1/4" roofing nails.

KS7J July 2nd 03 09:56 PM

durock directly to 2x8 t&g subfloor?
 
Tim Johnson wrote in message ...
KS7J wrote:

Hi All,

Bathroom project coming up. Part of it is to replace a wood parquet
floor with ceramic tile. Parquet is 3/8" thick over 1/2 or 5/8"
particle board over 2x8 T&G subflooring (nominally 1-5/8" thick). I'm
concerned about achieving the same level on the new floor.

Can I remove the particle underlayment and screw concrete backer board
(Durock aka Hardi-backer, etc.) directly to the T&G subfloor? My
instinct says it is stiff enough without additional plywood
underlayment. If I have to put a plywood base on top of the T&G I have
no hope of getting the tile floor to the same level as the current
floor.

TIA,

Casey


Read this: http://www.ttmac.com/deflection_limitations.htm

And forget the screws on the underlayment. You can apply the
underlayment over the T&G using tile mastic and 1-1/4" roofing nails.


That raises a further question: I need a vapor barrier somewhere above
the T&G subfloor, I would have put it directly on top of the T&G then
put the Durock on top of that. Obviously, mastic is going to do no
good on top of the vapor barrier. Does the Durock, taped, provide a
vapor barrier?

TIA,

Casey

KS7J July 8th 03 03:05 AM

durock directly to 2x8 t&g subfloor?
 
OK, one last followup (I hope).

Can I use thinset as a leveler over the 2-by subfloor? There is some
uneven-ness between the boards, maybe 1/8" at most and I'd like to use
the 1/4" wonderboard if possible (the subfloor is very solid, btw).

If I sand down the subfloor a bit, will the adhesion be sufficient for
the thinset? Then I plane to use tile mastic on top of the thinset
skim coat, wonderboard (durock) nailed on top of that and taped with
fiberglass tape and thinset. Lastly, the floor tiles.

Sound OK?

- Casey

(KS7J) wrote in message . com...
Hi All,

Bathroom project coming up. Part of it is to replace a wood parquet
floor with ceramic tile. Parquet is 3/8" thick over 1/2 or 5/8"
particle board over 2x8 T&G subflooring (nominally 1-5/8" thick). I'm
concerned about achieving the same level on the new floor.

Can I remove the particle underlayment and screw concrete backer board
(Durock aka Hardi-backer, etc.) directly to the T&G subfloor? My
instinct says it is stiff enough without additional plywood
underlayment. If I have to put a plywood base on top of the T&G I have
no hope of getting the tile floor to the same level as the current
floor.

TIA,

Casey



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