Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
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Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
replying to trader_4, sam F wrote:
receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...e-1110235-.htm |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F
m wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F m wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. When I worked as an electrician on Army Core Of Engineers jobs, the Core wanted the ground hole on receptacles oriented where it was at the top. On horizontal receptacles, they wanted the neutral at the top. One thing they were worried about was ceiling tie wires falling against a plug that was pulled out a bit exposing the prongs. There must have been more than one instance of a tie wire causing fireworks when it fell against a plug that was hanging out. My personal preference is ground hole up because it's easier for me to insert a plug because I use the ground pin as a guide. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Zapped Monster |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
J. Burke" wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down".* They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom.* I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom.* But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... What a load of ****e. I hope nobody listens to yer dumb 'advice', ya stupid moulie! - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: |
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psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)", farted again: Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... What a load of ****e. I hope nobody listens to yer dumb 'advice', ya stupid moulie! Actually it's a valid and generally accepted explanation, though there are no hard rules, you illiterate dreckserb! -- serb bitch Razovic, the ridiculous "Brit" and "WASP" wannabe, correcting British posters' CORRECT English over at uk.rec.cars.maintenance: "There's no such word as 'impending'. Something is either imminent or pending but not 'impending'." MID: |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F m wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. When I worked as an electrician on Army Core Of Engineers jobs, the Core wanted the ground hole on receptacles oriented where it was at the top. On horizontal receptacles, they wanted the neutral at the top. One thing they were worried about was ceiling tie wires falling against a plug that was pulled out a bit exposing the prongs. There must have been more than one instance of a tie wire causing fireworks when it fell against a plug that was hanging out. My personal preference is ground hole up because it's easier for me to insert a plug because I use the ground pin as a guide. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Zapped Monster The point is the U/L and NFPA (the NEC) are both silent on this When in doubt, install one of these and make everyone happy https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/...3_wu_fo5oy.JPG |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:44:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:44:00 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F m wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. When I worked as an electrician on Army Core Of Engineers jobs, the Core wanted the ground hole on receptacles oriented where it was at the top. On horizontal receptacles, they wanted the neutral at the top. One thing they were worried about was ceiling tie wires falling against a plug that was pulled out a bit exposing the prongs. There must have been more than one instance of a tie wire causing fireworks when it fell against a plug that was hanging out. My personal preference is ground hole up because it's easier for me to insert a plug because I use the ground pin as a guide. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Zapped Monster The point is the U/L and NFPA (the NEC) are both silent on this When in doubt, install one of these and make everyone happy https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/...3_wu_fo5oy.JPG That'll work. I think I actually have one of those around somewhere. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Outlet Monster |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:43:56 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F om wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. Pic: https://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/funny-decal.jpeg |
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Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:43:56 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 04:14:12 GMT, sam F om wrote: replying to trader_4, sam F wrote: receptacles are UL listed with the ground 'up', that is the proper way to install one... Bull****. The code and U/L are both silent about how you orient a receptacle. Pic: https://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/funny-decal.jpeg That's the code for ya! -- Tekkie |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:00:25 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
J. Burke" wrote: On 6/8/2018 8:55 AM, % wrote: On 2018-06-08 8:52 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 6/7/2018 6:20 PM, Checkmate wrote: Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate!* In article , nad318b404 @gmail.invalid says... Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down".* They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom.* I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom.* But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution.* Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load.* You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. Wildly wrong. First, if a plug is seated properly there won't be any metal exposed; rubbery plug material will be flush against the plastic of the outlet cover. And second, if you have a loose plug exposing metal (don't do that), the ground pin is at the bottom, and a metal item falls on there shorting the neutral to the hot, you'd have an instant circuit breaker trip is what you'd have. In a fraction of a second that outlet would be as dead as a doornail -- no voltage anywhere. Oh no you DIN'T! Are... are you attempting to be the resident expert on electrical wiring in AC now?* Looks like I'm going to have to straighten you out on a few things.* First of all, the operative word in your statement above, is *IF*.* IF is one of the biggest words in the English language in this case.* Plugs are supposed to be plugged in all the way so that no portion of the conductors is exposed, but sometimes they come loose for any number of reasons, leaving some of the conductors exposed.* IF the hot and neutral are mounted at the top, and IF a portion of the blades is exposed, and IF something metal (perhaps a coin) were to fall on them in such a way as to complete a circuit, it *might* trip the breaker. However, it's conceivable that it could produce an arc which could cause a fire, or you could even get a high resistance short, not drawing enough current to trip the breaker, but drawing enough to heat up the metal object... and possibly causing a fire. Please note that the National Electrical code does NOT specify which mounting method must be used.* In fact, several code committees have discussed this topic and elected not to specify one way over the other. I've seen some hospitals specify that the ground be mounted at the top, for the reasons I've already mentioned, however there is no code requirement to do so.* Plugs are usually mounted with the hot and neutral at the top for no other reason than convention, and the fact that some people are "bothered" by what they perceive as an "upside-down" orientation. Unless, of course, the circuit breakers were not up to code, in which case your problems are in the breaker box, not the outlet. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... By smearing even more of it everywhere? Doubtful. Thank you for backing my six, Chekky.* Together we can make these maroons smarter. backing my six , lol What is wrong with you? More to the point, what is wrong with YOU, you black *******? - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: |
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Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down".* They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom.* I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom.* But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... -- YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS {#390 - ROBBERS} vs HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GODS HOUSE} THEORY OF NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN* *CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT* Private Saint Andrews Street on the edge of the Central Business District dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek: TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE (translation published within English as first European language in 1993), first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie. Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac. It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis [James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER. http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING and the question is, if it is permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY." That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as EXISTENCE. http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip (Download resources) After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist, expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean TETRAD/TETRACTYS |
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SEE ALSO: SOLDIER COCKUPS: MEMBRUM VIRILE {manly, masculine, mature} v's MEMBRUM PUERILE {boyish, #231 - *YOUTH*} http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Membrum%20Puerile.pdf SEE ALSO AMERICAN HATRED IN THE NAME OF GOD THAT WAS ONLY EVER AN INDOLENT LIFESTYLE CHOICE (DISPROVING BAKER JACK PHILLIPS CHRISTIAN IDENTITY AS #277 - CRITERIA OF PREJUDICE UPON #585 - CIVIL RELATIONS) http://www.grapple369.com/docs/American%20Dreams.pdf SEE ALSO: PROVOCATIVE MONOLOGUES ON THE SUBJECT OF RACIALISM {#288 - UMBRA / BEERSHEBA / 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 (HETEROS) AND ITS IMPOST AGAINST THE NAME OF GOD AS YHWH WITHIN JEWISH TORAH IDOLATRY: #96 / #288 / #105 / #315 AND EGYPTIAN ANKH / ROMAN IMPERIAL EMPIRE GOVERNANCE PROTOTYPE #THREE: #105 / #315} http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Monologues.pdf SEE ALSO: CURING THE DISEASE OF JIHADIST IDEAS AND DETERMINING {#345 / #465} WHEN ISLAMISTS ARE SAFE FOR ASSIMILATION INTO CIVIL SOCIETY http://www.grapple369.com/docs/Earth%20Wind%20and%20Fire.pdf Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... -- YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS {#390 - ROBBERS} vs HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GODS HOUSE} THEORY OF NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN* *CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT* Private Saint Andrews Street on the edge of the Central Business District dated 16th May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice of an Application for Planning Permit http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html SEE ALSO: HYPOSTATIS as DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek: TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE (translation published within English as first European language in 1993), first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie. Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac. It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis [James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER. http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING and the question is, if it is permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY." That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO [iOS] SAPIEN [T] as EXISTENCE. http://www.grapple369.com/Grapple.zip (Download resources) After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist, expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean TETRAD/TETRACTYS |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message ... On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... don't be rude |
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"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:00:25 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/8/2018 8:55 AM, % wrote: On 2018-06-08 8:52 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 6/7/2018 6:20 PM, Checkmate wrote: Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article , nad318b404 @gmail.invalid says... Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. Wildly wrong. First, if a plug is seated properly there won't be any metal exposed; rubbery plug material will be flush against the plastic of the outlet cover. And second, if you have a loose plug exposing metal (don't do that), the ground pin is at the bottom, and a metal item falls on there shorting the neutral to the hot, you'd have an instant circuit breaker trip is what you'd have. In a fraction of a second that outlet would be as dead as a doornail -- no voltage anywhere. Oh no you DIN'T! Are... are you attempting to be the resident expert on electrical wiring in AC now? Looks like I'm going to have to straighten you out on a few things. First of all, the operative word in your statement above, is *IF*. IF is one of the biggest words in the English language in this case. Plugs are supposed to be plugged in all the way so that no portion of the conductors is exposed, but sometimes they come loose for any number of reasons, leaving some of the conductors exposed. IF the hot and neutral are mounted at the top, and IF a portion of the blades is exposed, and IF something metal (perhaps a coin) were to fall on them in such a way as to complete a circuit, it *might* trip the breaker. However, it's conceivable that it could produce an arc which could cause a fire, or you could even get a high resistance short, not drawing enough current to trip the breaker, but drawing enough to heat up the metal object... and possibly causing a fire. Please note that the National Electrical code does NOT specify which mounting method must be used. In fact, several code committees have discussed this topic and elected not to specify one way over the other. I've seen some hospitals specify that the ground be mounted at the top, for the reasons I've already mentioned, however there is no code requirement to do so. Plugs are usually mounted with the hot and neutral at the top for no other reason than convention, and the fact that some people are "bothered" by what they perceive as an "upside-down" orientation. Unless, of course, the circuit breakers were not up to code, in which case your problems are in the breaker box, not the outlet. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... By smearing even more of it everywhere? Doubtful. Thank you for backing my six, Chekky. Together we can make these maroons smarter. backing my six , lol What is wrong with you? More to the point, what is wrong with YOU, you black *******? - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: ground pin hole? |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... What a load of ****e. I hope nobody listens to yer dumb 'advice', ya stupid moulie! - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: what would be dumb? |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:00:19 -0500, "David" wrote:
"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... What a load of ****e. I hope nobody listens to yer dumb 'advice', ya stupid moulie! what would be dumb? That would be anything coming out of a moulie mouth. - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:56 -0500, "David" wrote:
"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:00:25 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/8/2018 8:55 AM, % wrote: On 2018-06-08 8:52 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 6/7/2018 6:20 PM, Checkmate wrote: Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article , nad318b404 @gmail.invalid says... Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. Wildly wrong. First, if a plug is seated properly there won't be any metal exposed; rubbery plug material will be flush against the plastic of the outlet cover. And second, if you have a loose plug exposing metal (don't do that), the ground pin is at the bottom, and a metal item falls on there shorting the neutral to the hot, you'd have an instant circuit breaker trip is what you'd have. In a fraction of a second that outlet would be as dead as a doornail -- no voltage anywhere. Oh no you DIN'T! Are... are you attempting to be the resident expert on electrical wiring in AC now? Looks like I'm going to have to straighten you out on a few things. First of all, the operative word in your statement above, is *IF*. IF is one of the biggest words in the English language in this case. Plugs are supposed to be plugged in all the way so that no portion of the conductors is exposed, but sometimes they come loose for any number of reasons, leaving some of the conductors exposed. IF the hot and neutral are mounted at the top, and IF a portion of the blades is exposed, and IF something metal (perhaps a coin) were to fall on them in such a way as to complete a circuit, it *might* trip the breaker. However, it's conceivable that it could produce an arc which could cause a fire, or you could even get a high resistance short, not drawing enough current to trip the breaker, but drawing enough to heat up the metal object... and possibly causing a fire. Please note that the National Electrical code does NOT specify which mounting method must be used. In fact, several code committees have discussed this topic and elected not to specify one way over the other. I've seen some hospitals specify that the ground be mounted at the top, for the reasons I've already mentioned, however there is no code requirement to do so. Plugs are usually mounted with the hot and neutral at the top for no other reason than convention, and the fact that some people are "bothered" by what they perceive as an "upside-down" orientation. Unless, of course, the circuit breakers were not up to code, in which case your problems are in the breaker box, not the outlet. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... By smearing even more of it everywhere? Doubtful. Thank you for backing my six, Chekky. Together we can make these maroons smarter. backing my six , lol What is wrong with you? More to the point, what is wrong with YOU, you black *******? ground pin hole? That's not all that's wrong with him! - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglck!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: |
Everyone KEEPS having Endless Fun Beating the Shit out of Poor Helpless Gay Goran Razovic! LOL
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:53:24 -0700, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)", farted again: ground pin hole? That's not all that's wrong with him! STILL together with the retard, dumb anal Razovic? Are retards sexually more attractive to you because those are the ONLY ones you could ever get in your perverted "life" (if one can call that spastic thing you are suffering from a "life" at all)? LOL -- Nefesh about stinking serb peasant Razovic: "Now when the Revd tries to think, He begins to stink." MID: |
Everyone KEEPS having Endless Fun Beating the Shit out of Poor Helpless Gay Goran Razovic! LOL
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:52:42 -0700, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)", farted again: what would be dumb? That would be anything coming out of a moulie mouth. That would indeed be you, you dumb piece of serbian ****! -- tomcov about poor psychotic asshole Razovic: "Assholes come Assholes go But the revd asshole goes on forever. (and he speaks through it)" MID: |
TOM R, DUMBASS AT LARGE, AXES ABOUT "Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?"
"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:56 -0500, "David" wrote: "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 09:00:25 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/8/2018 8:55 AM, % wrote: On 2018-06-08 8:52 AM, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 6/7/2018 6:20 PM, Checkmate wrote: Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article , nad318b404 @gmail.invalid says... Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:53:57 -0700, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote: On 9/28/2016 6:18 PM, TomR wrote: A friend of mine asked me today why the electrical outlets in my house were "upside down". They are positioned with the ground pin hole at the top and the two slots of the outlet on the bottom. I agree that, to me, they "look" like they are upside down, and I think they would "look" better with the ground pin hole on the bottom. But, my belief is that the National Electrical Code (NEC) is silent on this question and that there is no right or wrong orientation for electrical outlets. My friend said that he has had code enforcement officials tell him that electrical outlets with the ground pin hole on top were "upside down" and that they needed to be reversed to be with the ground pin on the bottom to pass the electrical inspection. Is there anything in the NEC that says that one way is "upside down" and the other way is the "correct" orientation? Yer friend's code enforcement officials are probably a bunch of banana-munchin' porch monkeys with not even the least idea of proper code. If ya had any sense, you'd know the ground pin always goes on the top. This is a safety precaution. Say someone were to drop a metal item onto the pins carrying the load. You'd have an instant fire which even the most modern fire department could probably not extinguish. Wildly wrong. First, if a plug is seated properly there won't be any metal exposed; rubbery plug material will be flush against the plastic of the outlet cover. And second, if you have a loose plug exposing metal (don't do that), the ground pin is at the bottom, and a metal item falls on there shorting the neutral to the hot, you'd have an instant circuit breaker trip is what you'd have. In a fraction of a second that outlet would be as dead as a doornail -- no voltage anywhere. Oh no you DIN'T! Are... are you attempting to be the resident expert on electrical wiring in AC now? Looks like I'm going to have to straighten you out on a few things. First of all, the operative word in your statement above, is *IF*. IF is one of the biggest words in the English language in this case. Plugs are supposed to be plugged in all the way so that no portion of the conductors is exposed, but sometimes they come loose for any number of reasons, leaving some of the conductors exposed. IF the hot and neutral are mounted at the top, and IF a portion of the blades is exposed, and IF something metal (perhaps a coin) were to fall on them in such a way as to complete a circuit, it *might* trip the breaker. However, it's conceivable that it could produce an arc which could cause a fire, or you could even get a high resistance short, not drawing enough current to trip the breaker, but drawing enough to heat up the metal object... and possibly causing a fire. Please note that the National Electrical code does NOT specify which mounting method must be used. In fact, several code committees have discussed this topic and elected not to specify one way over the other. I've seen some hospitals specify that the ground be mounted at the top, for the reasons I've already mentioned, however there is no code requirement to do so. Plugs are usually mounted with the hot and neutral at the top for no other reason than convention, and the fact that some people are "bothered" by what they perceive as an "upside-down" orientation. Unless, of course, the circuit breakers were not up to code, in which case your problems are in the breaker box, not the outlet. I hope that clears up any further ignorance on your part... By smearing even more of it everywhere? Doubtful. Thank you for backing my six, Chekky. Together we can make these maroons smarter. backing my six , lol What is wrong with you? More to the point, what is wrong with YOU, you black *******? ground pin hole? That's not all that's wrong with him! - - " I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested Arizona." - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected " My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." - Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015) "Die Juden sind unser Unglück!" - Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896) "But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze ass?" - Klaun ****tinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences Message-ID: its a seizure |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
replying to hrhofmann, Brelvis wrote:
The reason is simple. SAFETY. Back in the day, the outlet covers were metal. Id a plate happened to come lose, fall on the hot conductor of the cord, YOU became the ground if it were to be touched. If it were to fall on the grounded prong, no harm done. Read this explanation in an older text book back in the 80's. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...e-1110235-.htm |
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TomR:
If you look closely at the front of a bare(uninstalled) receptacle, you'll see tiny writing on many that is legible only when the receptacle is held so that the ground is on top. There's a major clue for all the "looks silly with ground on top" crowd! ;) |
Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 03:14:02 GMT, Brelvis
m wrote: replying to hrhofmann, Brelvis wrote: The reason is simple. SAFETY. Back in the day, the outlet covers were metal. Id a plate happened to come lose, fall on the hot conductor of the cord, YOU became the ground if it were to be touched. If it were to fall on the grounded prong, no harm done. Read this explanation in an older text book back in the 80's. Other than in commercial (and institutional) use metal plates were replaced by plastic LONG before 3 wire grounded outlets became common. There is no safety based reason for either orientation in normal use |
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Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 10:40:37 PM UTC-5, wrote:
TomR: If you look closely at the front of a bare(uninstalled) receptacle, you'll see tiny writing on many that is legible only when the receptacle is held so that the ground is on top. There's a major clue for all the "looks silly with ground on top" crowd! ;) It's rather odd that if that was the intent, that 99% are installed with the ground prong down in the USA and passed inspection. That's my survey from traveling widely in the USA, it's rare to find one with the ground prong up. Why are almost all electricians doing it wrong? |
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Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:04:38 AM UTC-5, Bubba wrote:
On 1/8/2019 10:40 PM, wrote: TomR: If you look closely at the front of a bare(uninstalled) receptacle, you'll see tiny writing on many that is legible only when the receptacle is held so that the ground is on top. There's a major clue for all the "looks silly with ground on top" crowd! ;) ** My refrigerator has a 90 degree angled plug.* To minimize stress on the cable, the wall receptacle needs to be installed with the ground pin down. I was thinking similar, but couldn't think of a good example. You're right, the new fridge here has the same thing, a flat plug designed to not stick out. If you put it in ground pin up, there would be stress on the cord. But to me, the obvious thing is that the vast majority of receptacles are installed ground pin down. In my experience, I'd say it's 99%+. It's rather odd if there was an intention they be put in the other way due to the safety issue, that so many electricians are doing it wrong. Also, so many safety things are specified in the code, but nothing on this. |
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On 1/9/2019 9:04 AM, Bubba wrote:
On 1/8/2019 10:40 PM, wrote: TomR: If you look closely at the front of a bare(uninstalled) receptacle, you'll see tiny writing on many that is legible only when the receptacle is held so that the ground is on top.* There's a major clue for all the "looks silly with ground on top" crowd!* ;) ** My refrigerator has a 90 degree angled plug.* To minimize stress on the cable, the wall receptacle needs to be installed with the ground pin down. Yet my 20 year old Fedders air conditioner should have pin up. |
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On 1/9/2019 9:48 AM, trader_4 wrote:
But to me, the obvious thing is that the vast majority of receptacles are installed ground pin down. In my experience, I'd say it's 99%+. It's rather odd if there was an intention they be put in the other way due to the safety issue, that so many electricians are doing it wrong. Also, so many safety things are specified in the code, but nothing on this. One electrical inspector in the town where I worked, wanted pin up in the office. He had a thing about paper clips falling across the plug blades. In my new house, just built a couple of months ago, the receptacle in each room that is controlled by a switch has pin up and the top is switched, the bottom is not. Makes it easy to find the right one. |
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On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 10:09:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/9/2019 9:48 AM, trader_4 wrote: But to me, the obvious thing is that the vast majority of receptacles are installed ground pin down. In my experience, I'd say it's 99%+. It's rather odd if there was an intention they be put in the other way due to the safety issue, that so many electricians are doing it wrong. Also, so many safety things are specified in the code, but nothing on this. One electrical inspector in the town where I worked, wanted pin up in the office. He had a thing about paper clips falling across the plug blades. In my new house, just built a couple of months ago, the receptacle in each room that is controlled by a switch has pin up and the top is switched, the bottom is not. Makes it easy to find the right one. That's a system. You'd think by now there would be some universal ID that you could use on receptacles to mark switched, but I've never seen any. Just a simple little piece of green tape on the half that is switched would work, but I never thought about doing it until now. It would be most useful in a new house, where you're not sure what's what and have to plug in a lot of stuff. Would be nice if that convention could be followed by electricians. |
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Electrical Outlets Upside Down? Code?
On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 10:05:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/9/2019 9:04 AM, Bubba wrote: On 1/8/2019 10:40 PM, wrote: TomR: If you look closely at the front of a bare(uninstalled) receptacle, you'll see tiny writing on many that is legible only when the receptacle is held so that the ground is on top.* There's a major clue for all the "looks silly with ground on top" crowd!* ;) ** My refrigerator has a 90 degree angled plug.* To minimize stress on the cable, the wall receptacle needs to be installed with the ground pin down. Yet my 20 year old Fedders air conditioner should have pin up. No A/C plugs are made to assume the unit is mounted higher than the receptacle so the cord is oriented up. |
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 07:25:37 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 10:09:40 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 1/9/2019 9:48 AM, trader_4 wrote: But to me, the obvious thing is that the vast majority of receptacles are installed ground pin down. In my experience, I'd say it's 99%+. It's rather odd if there was an intention they be put in the other way due to the safety issue, that so many electricians are doing it wrong. Also, so many safety things are specified in the code, but nothing on this. One electrical inspector in the town where I worked, wanted pin up in the office. He had a thing about paper clips falling across the plug blades. In my new house, just built a couple of months ago, the receptacle in each room that is controlled by a switch has pin up and the top is switched, the bottom is not. Makes it easy to find the right one. That's a system. You'd think by now there would be some universal ID that you could use on receptacles to mark switched, but I've never seen any. Just a simple little piece of green tape on the half that is switched would work, but I never thought about doing it until now. It would be most useful in a new house, where you're not sure what's what and have to plug in a lot of stuff. Would be nice if that convention could be followed by electricians. I mark the switched side with a red sharpie. |
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On 1/9/19 12:47 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
[snip] On a Legrand Decora outlet the "legrand" logo is readable only with the grount TO THE RIGHT. Finding text unreadable because of orientation is a serious limitation. [snip] |
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On 1/9/19 7:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
[snip] It's rather odd that if that was the intent, that 99% are installed with the ground prong down in the USA and passed inspection. That's my survey from traveling widely in the USA, it's rare to find one with the ground prong up. Why are almost all electricians doing it wrong? I find ground up in most hospitals and medical facilities (except older ones). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man." -- Thomas Paine |
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On 1/9/19 9:25 AM, trader_4 wrote:
[snip] That's a system. You'd think by now there would be some universal ID that you could use on receptacles to mark switched, but I've never seen any. Just a simple little piece of green tape on the half that is switched would work, but I never thought about doing it until now. It would be most useful in a new house, where you're not sure what's what and have to plug in a lot of stuff. Would be nice if that convention could be followed by electricians. I have a receptacle where both halves are (separately) switched. One side is marked with red tape, the other with green tape. The receptacle is meant to be used for Christmas lights. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "It is from the Bible that man has learned cruelty, rapine and murder; for the belief of a cruel God makes a cruel man." -- Thomas Paine |
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