Freezer question
 

I posted recently about our freezer having problems staying cold.

We have a side by side GE Profile Model PSHS6RGXCDSS

I don't really have a bench mark to compare its current functioning to because in the past I never paid attention to the temperature because it was working fine. But since I had some problems with the freezer getting too warm I have been watching it very closely now.

Here is what I am seeing.

If I set the temperature settings very cold (-6F and 34F) for the freezer and fridge it will get there eventually. Yesterday we were out all day and when I got home around 5 p.m. it was at that temperature.

But then after the doors have been opened it starts to rise and then continues to rise. It got up to 6F and 41F last night when I went to bed. The 41F for the fridge concerns me because from what I read bacteria can start to be a problem when it gets above 41F.

Then at night it gets down to the temperature I set for it. But it takes a long time. When I woke at 3:30 a.m. I took a look at it and it was at 4F and 37F. The when I woke for the day at 6:30 a.m. it was at -2 and 34 which is the temperature I had set for it.

Should it take this long to get back down to the set temperature?

The room is cool and is air conditioned.

Everything in the freezer is still nice and frozen and the ice cubes are fine. The ice pops still seem a little mushy to me.

I'm just curious about the length of time it is taking to get cold again. It seems to be having a hard time.

Thanks for any feedback.

Freezer question
 

On 7/14/2016 7:46 AM, wrote:
I posted recently about our freezer having problems staying cold.

We have a side by side GE Profile Model PSHS6RGXCDSS

I don't really have a bench mark to compare its current functioning to because in the past I never paid attention to the temperature because it was working fine. But since I had some problems with the freezer getting too warm I have been watching it very closely now.

Here is what I am seeing.

If I set the temperature settings very cold (-6F and 34F) for the freezer and fridge it will get there eventually. Yesterday we were out all day and when I got home around 5 p.m. it was at that temperature.

But then after the doors have been opened it starts to rise and then continues to rise. It got up to 6F and 41F last night when I went to bed. The 41F for the fridge concerns me because from what I read bacteria can start to be a problem when it gets above 41F.

Then at night it gets down to the temperature I set for it. But it takes a long time. When I woke at 3:30 a.m. I took a look at it and it was at 4F and 37F. The when I woke for the day at 6:30 a.m. it was at -2 and 34 which is the temperature I had set for it.

Should it take this long to get back down to the set temperature?

The room is cool and is air conditioned.

Everything in the freezer is still nice and frozen and the ice cubes are fine. The ice pops still seem a little mushy to me.

I'm just curious about the length of time it is taking to get cold again. It seems to be having a hard time.

Thanks for any feedback.


The one thing you can (and should) do is to take off the back plate, and
clean the condenser. You'll need 5/16 nut driver or socket wrench, and a
couple variety of nylon brush. Vacuum cleaner with a hose. The condenser
is the black tubes and wires (will be to the right as you sit on the
floor behind the fridge). Brush the dust, vacuum it clean. It is
important to put the back plate on again.

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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 7:46:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I posted recently about our freezer having problems staying cold.

We have a side by side GE Profile Model PSHS6RGXCDSS

I don't really have a bench mark to compare its current functioning to because in the past I never paid attention to the temperature because it was working fine. But since I had some problems with the freezer getting too warm I have been watching it very closely now.

Here is what I am seeing.

If I set the temperature settings very cold (-6F and 34F) for the freezer and fridge it will get there eventually. Yesterday we were out all day and when I got home around 5 p.m. it was at that temperature.

But then after the doors have been opened it starts to rise and then continues to rise. It got up to 6F and 41F last night when I went to bed. The 41F for the fridge concerns me because from what I read bacteria can start to be a problem when it gets above 41F.

Then at night it gets down to the temperature I set for it. But it takes a long time. When I woke at 3:30 a.m. I took a look at it and it was at 4F and 37F. The when I woke for the day at 6:30 a.m. it was at -2 and 34 which is the temperature I had set for it.

Should it take this long to get back down to the set temperature?

The room is cool and is air conditioned.

Everything in the freezer is still nice and frozen and the ice cubes are fine. The ice pops still seem a little mushy to me.

I'm just curious about the length of time it is taking to get cold again. It seems to be having a hard time.

Thanks for any feedback.

Despite giving us some times and temps, what's missing is how long
the doors are open and then how long it takes to get back to the
set temp. I'd say if you open the fridge door for 10 secs to get
something, the fridge should be back to it's set temp in a hour or
two. It's also going to depend a lot on the thermal mass in the
fridge and freezer. If they are empty, opening the door will result
in a bigger temp rise and take longer to recover than if it's full.

It sounds like your fridge may be struggling. Coils clean? Any
air path/fans inside clear and working?

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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
Despite giving us some times and temps, what's missing is how long
the doors are open and then how long it takes to get back to the
set temp. I'd say if you open the fridge door for 10 secs to get
something, the fridge should be back to it's set temp in a hour or
two. It's also going to depend a lot on the thermal mass in the
fridge and freezer. If they are empty, opening the door will result
in a bigger temp rise and take longer to recover than if it's full.

It sounds like your fridge may be struggling. Coils clean? Any
air path/fans inside clear and working?

I tried taking off the back plate which is on the freezer side. I took off four bolts but then got stuck because the plate is behind the light assembly and it was not obvious to me how to get that plate off.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Steve

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if the room is TOO cool, the freezer will not be cold.

this is counteractive but true as I will explain below

the temperature control in in the fridge, not the freezer.

When the fridge gets too warm, the compressor comes on and cools both the freezer and the fridge. If you want the freezer to be cooler, adjust the door between the freezer and the fridge to be more closed.

Also consider, if you set the fridge temp to say 47 and the room temp is 47, the compressor will never come on and the freezer will warm to 47.

The controller measures the fridge temp, usually not the freezer temp.

Freezer question
 

On 2016-07-14 10:09 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
Despite giving us some times and temps, what's missing is how long
the doors are open and then how long it takes to get back to the
set temp. I'd say if you open the fridge door for 10 secs to get
something, the fridge should be back to it's set temp in a hour or
two. It's also going to depend a lot on the thermal mass in the
fridge and freezer. If they are empty, opening the door will result
in a bigger temp rise and take longer to recover than if it's full.

It sounds like your fridge may be struggling. Coils clean? Any
air path/fans inside clear and working?

I tried taking off the back plate which is on the freezer side. I took off four bolts but then got stuck because the plate is behind the light assembly and it was not obvious to me how to get that plate off.

Our freezer section in the fridge is usually very full, now and then
stuff gets pushed to the back of the freezer section so far that the
vents get blocked. When that happens, the fridge runs forever, and does
not seem to do anything and stuff warms up, make sure those vents are
not blocked.

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Froz....

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:37:49 -0400, FrozenNorth
wrote:

Our freezer section in the fridge is usually very full, now and then
stuff gets pushed to the back of the freezer section so far that the
vents get blocked. When that happens, the fridge runs forever, and does
not seem to do anything and stuff warms up, make sure those vents are
not blocked.

+1 There needs to be cold air circulation on all sides of the food
and shelves.

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" wrote in
:

On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
Despite giving us some times and temps, what's missing is how
long the doors are open and then how long it takes to get back
to the set temp. I'd say if you open the fridge door for 10
secs to get something, the fridge should be back to it's set
temp in a hour or two. It's also going to depend a lot on the
thermal mass in the fridge and freezer. If they are empty,
opening the door will result in a bigger temp rise and take
longer to recover than if it's full.

It sounds like your fridge may be struggling. Coils clean?
Any air path/fans inside clear and working?

I tried taking off the back plate which is on the freezer side.
I took off four bolts but then got stuck because the plate is
behind the light assembly and it was not obvious to me how to
get that plate off.

"Behind the light assembly"?? Are you trying to do this *inside* the freezer? The "back
plate" is on the *back* of the unit, i.e. on the outside.

Freezer question
 

wrote in message
...

I posted recently about our freezer having problems staying cold.

We have a side by side GE Profile Model PSHS6RGXCDSS

I don't really have a bench mark to compare its current functioning to
because in the past I never paid attention to the temperature because it was
working fine. But since I had some problems with the freezer getting too
warm I have been watching it very closely now.

Here is what I am seeing.

If I set the temperature settings very cold (-6F and 34F) for the freezer
and fridge it will get there eventually. Yesterday we were out all day and
when I got home around 5 p.m. it was at that temperature.

But then after the doors have been opened it starts to rise and then
continues to rise. It got up to 6F and 41F last night when I went to bed.
The 41F for the fridge concerns me because from what I read bacteria can
start to be a problem when it gets above 41F.

Then at night it gets down to the temperature I set for it. But it takes a
long time. When I woke at 3:30 a.m. I took a look at it and it was at 4F
and 37F. The when I woke for the day at 6:30 a.m. it was at -2 and 34
which is the temperature I had set for it.

Should it take this long to get back down to the set temperature?

The room is cool and is air conditioned.

Everything in the freezer is still nice and frozen and the ice cubes are
fine. The ice pops still seem a little mushy to me.

I'm just curious about the length of time it is taking to get cold again.
It seems to be having a hard time.

Thanks for any feedback.

Apparently you did cleaned you must check your defrost is working,
Fan is circulating and mechanical device that some refrigerator use to
Pickup cold air from freezer to inject into refrigerator portion.
Defrost "Important" make sure that it does defrost otherwise it may
Stop working all together.

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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 1:04:58 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:

"Behind the light assembly"?? Are you trying to do this *inside* the freezer? The "back
plate" is on the *back* of the unit, i.e. on the outside.

Well that explains why it wasn't easy to take that plate off. I wonder what that inside plate reveals?

I can't easily get at the back of this fridge. It is recessed in an enclosure in our kitchen. I would have to roll it out. Then there is the hoses attached for the ice machine and water.

I wonder how one repairman deals with this. I think I remember two guys moving that fridge when it was installed. I guess it's on wheels but it's still pretty big and heave and there is no way to get at the sides because it is sitting tightly in this enclosure.

It seems to be behaving better. Last night it didn't get very warm. I will have to look at the fridge side and see if anything is blocked off.

Thanks for all the help on this one.

Steve

Freezer question
 

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 8:59:56 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 1:04:58 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:

"Behind the light assembly"?? Are you trying to do this *inside* the freezer? The "back
plate" is on the *back* of the unit, i.e. on the outside.

Well that explains why it wasn't easy to take that plate off. I wonder what that inside plate reveals?

Most likely you will find insulation, internal duct work and some wires.


I can't easily get at the back of this fridge. It is recessed in an enclosure in our kitchen. I would have to roll it out. Then there is the hoses attached for the ice machine and water.

Think about this logically:

Do you think that they removed the kitchen wall behind the fridge in order to
install the water lines? Odds are that there is enough slack in the water lines
and power cord for the unit to be pulled out of the enclosure. I would suggest
shutting off the water before you roll the unit out just in case things go
terribly wrong.


I wonder how one repairman deals with this.

See my comments above.

I think I remember two guys moving that fridge when it was installed. I guess it's on wheels but it's still pretty big and heave and there is no way to get at the sides because it is sitting tightly in this enclosure.

On the units I've dealt with, there are 4 rollers, 2 in front and 2 in the
rear. There are also 2 "leveling legs" in the front. The legs are spun downward
until they reach the floor which prevents the unit from rolling. Sometimes the
legs even lift the front rollers off of the floor, tilting the unit backward
slightly. This is done so that the doors close by themselves.

I have used a 2 x 4 and/or a crowbar to take the pressure off of the legs
so that they can be spun upwards. Once they are up high enough, the front
wheels touch the floor and the unit can be easily rolled out of the enclosure.


It seems to be behaving better. Last night it didn't get very warm. I will have to look at the fridge side and see if anything is blocked off.

Look at both the fridge side and the freezer side to ensure all vents are clear.


Thanks for all the help on this one.

Steve

Freezer question
 

On 7/15/2016 8:59 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 1:04:58 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:

"Behind the light assembly"?? Are you trying to do this *inside* the freezer? The "back
plate" is on the *back* of the unit, i.e. on the outside.

Well that explains why it wasn't easy to take that plate off. I wonder what that inside plate reveals?


Fan, evaporator, defrost heaters, termination
thermostat, end of capillary tube. Lot of
stuff.

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Freezer question
 

On 07/15/2016 06:59 AM, wrote:
I can't easily get at the back of this fridge. It is recessed in an enclosure in our kitchen. I would have to roll it out. Then there is the hoses attached for the ice machine and water.

I wonder how one repairman deals with this. I think I remember two guys moving that fridge when it was installed. I guess it's on wheels but it's still pretty big and heave and there is no way to get at the sides because it is sitting tightly in this enclosure.

Most appliance repair services charge north of $2 per minute.
It'll be cheaper if you empty and move it into a clear area where (s)he can easily work on it.

Freezer question
 

On 7/15/2016 8:59 AM, wrote:


I can't easily get at the back of this fridge. It is recessed in an enclosure in our kitchen. I would have to roll it out. Then there is the hoses attached for the ice machine and water.

I wonder how one repairman deals with this. I think I remember two guys moving that fridge when it was installed. I guess it's on wheels but it's still pretty big and heave and there is no way to get at the sides because it is sitting tightly in this enclosure.

It seems to be behaving better.


Yeah, it fixed itself. The water lines are long enough to pull it away.
You only have to pull it far enough to peek at the back and get a hose
in there if you have to clean it.

It is usually fairly easy to pull them out with the wheels already on them.

Freezer question
 

On 7/14/2016 9:41 AM, wrote:
if the room is TOO cool, the freezer will not be cold.

this is counteractive but true as I will explain below

the temperature control in in the fridge, not the freezer.

When the fridge gets too warm, the compressor comes on and cools both the freezer and the fridge. If you want the freezer to be cooler, adjust the door between the freezer and the fridge to be more closed.

Also consider, if you set the fridge temp to say 47 and the room temp is 47, the compressor will never come on and the freezer will warm to 47.



Do you have any logic to make me believe what you have said is true?

I have a freezer outdoors, the temperature varies over the year from
freezing to 98* F and the freezer works fine.
You need you to give a good logical explanation or I'm calling BS.

Mikek

Freezer question
 

On 7/15/2016 7:59 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 1:04:58 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:

"Behind the light assembly"?? Are you trying to do this *inside* the freezer? The "back
plate" is on the *back* of the unit, i.e. on the outside.

Well that explains why it wasn't easy to take that plate off. I wonder what that inside plate reveals?

I can't easily get at the back of this fridge. It is recessed in an enclosure in our kitchen. I would have to roll it out. Then there is the hoses attached for the ice machine and water.

I wonder how one repairman deals with this. I think I remember two guys moving that fridge when it was installed. I guess it's on wheels but it's still pretty big and heave and there is no way to get at the sides because it is sitting tightly in this enclosure.

It seems to be behaving better. Last night it didn't get very warm. I will have to look at the fridge side and see if anything is blocked off.

Thanks for all the help on this one.

Steve


I had a problem with my side by side, when I removed the back plate on
the inside of the freezer, I found the evaporator coils covered in ice.
The heater for the defrost cycle was open. I order a new one from
Ebay, installed it and it worked fine. I had to melt all the ice to get
to a point were I could troubleshoot it.

Mikek

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On 7/16/2016 10:58 AM, amdx wrote:
On 7/14/2016 9:41 AM, wrote:
Also consider, if you set the fridge temp to say 47 and the room temp
is 47, the compressor will never come on and the freezer will warm to 47.



Do you have any logic to make me believe what you have said is true?

I have a freezer outdoors, the temperature varies over the year from
freezing to 98* F and the freezer works fine.
You need you to give a good logical explanation or I'm calling BS.

Mikek

As to the 47F paragraph, I have to agree.

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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 5:16:38 PM UTC+5:30, wrote:
I posted recently about our freezer having problems staying cold.

We have a side by side GE Profile Model PSHS6RGXCDSS

I don't really have a bench mark to compare its current functioning to because in the past I never paid attention to the temperature because it was working fine. But since I had some problems with the freezer getting too warm I have been watching it very closely now.

Here is what I am seeing.

If I set the temperature settings very cold (-6F and 34F) for the freezer and fridge it will get there eventually. Yesterday we were out all day and when I got home around 5 p.m. it was at that temperature.

But then after the doors have been opened it starts to rise and then continues to rise. It got up to 6F and 41F last night when I went to bed. The 41F for the fridge concerns me because from what I read bacteria can start to be a problem when it gets above 41F.

Then at night it gets down to the temperature I set for it. But it takes a long time. When I woke at 3:30 a.m. I took a look at it and it was at 4F and 37F. The when I woke for the day at 6:30 a.m. it was at -2 and 34 which is the temperature I had set for it.

Should it take this long to get back down to the set temperature?

The room is cool and is air conditioned.

Everything in the freezer is still nice and frozen and the ice cubes are fine. The ice pops still seem a little mushy to me.

I'm just curious about the length of time it is taking to get cold again. It seems to be having a hard time.

Thanks for any feedback.

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On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 1:37:55 AM UTC-4, wrote:
gives 100% Satisfaction or fast service to our client.

Any chance of getting both Satisfaction and fast service?

Freezer question
 

On 7/17/2018 6:54 AM, Thomas wrote:
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 1:37:55 AM UTC-4, wrote:
gives 100% Satisfaction or fast service to our client.

Any chance of getting both Satisfaction and fast service?


I've not been able to do both according to my wife.