I ran across this while looking for a vehicle barrier gate for our
farm.
http://www.qcsupply.com/50008-drive-thru-electric-gate-adj-13-19.html
My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg
People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would work
for other livestock.

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On 05/16/2016 08:38 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:


I ran across this while looking for a vehicle barrier gate for our
farm.
http://www.qcsupply.com/50008-drive-thru-electric-gate-adj-13-19.html
My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg
People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would work
for other livestock.




Out west, they'd put closely spaced RR tracks in the ground spaced in
such a way that the cattle's hoofs would get caught or at any rate made
it too difficult to cross.

It worked so well that in some places, all they had to do was paint the
lines on the road and the cattle would keep away

On Mon, 16 May 2016 21:10:21 -0500, philo wrote:

On 05/16/2016 08:38 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:


I ran across this while looking for a vehicle barrier gate for our
farm.
http://www.qcsupply.com/50008-drive-thru-electric-gate-adj-13-19.html
My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg
People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would work
for other livestock.




Out west, they'd put closely spaced RR tracks in the ground spaced in
such a way that the cattle's hoofs would get caught or at any rate made
it too difficult to cross.

It worked so well that in some places, all they had to do was paint the
lines on the road and the cattle would keep away

I cant get that website to load on my old browser, but if it is
electrified, it will work with most cattle and horses. That is, unless
you have a horse like one of mine, who can jump right over a 5ft fence.
He just did that last week, so I renamed him BUTTHEAD !!!

On Mon, 16 May 2016 22:52:18 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2016 21:10:21 -0500, philo wrote:

On 05/16/2016 08:38 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:


I ran across this while looking for a vehicle barrier gate for our
farm.
http://www.qcsupply.com/50008-drive-thru-electric-gate-adj-13-19.html
My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg
People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would
work
for other livestock.




Out west, they'd put closely spaced RR tracks in the ground spaced in
such a way that the cattle's hoofs would get caught or at any rate made
it too difficult to cross.

It worked so well that in some places, all they had to do was paint the
lines on the road and the cattle would keep away

I cant get that website to load on my old browser, but if it is
electrified, it will work with most cattle and horses. That is, unless
you have a horse like one of mine, who can jump right over a 5ft fence.
He just did that last week, so I renamed him BUTTHEAD !!!

The first one is two spring loaded arms extending over the driveway.
Each is attached to one side of the fence. They're maybe hood high on a
pickup. There are what look like streamers hanging from those arms.
The streamers are electrified. A vehicle driving through will push the
arms out of the way as it goes through.
The second is the old style guard with bars on the ground perpendicular
to the road. There's a little hole dug under the bars. Vehicles can
drive over
easily but cattle are afraid to walk over it.
I saw another neat thing in a farm magazine once. It was a rotary gate
installed
in a fence line. It looked like the rotary doors one sees in public
places like
motels and stores. I think the paddles were offset from perpendicular to
the post
though. People could walk through but something longer like a cow couldn't
get through.


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On 05/17/2016 04:37 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
The second is the old style guard with bars on the ground perpendicular
to the road. There's a little hole dug under the bars. Vehicles can
drive over
easily but cattle are afraid to walk over it.

I was following a woman on one of the Nevada backroads, and she was
moving along pretty well. All of a sudden, she climbed on the brakes and
slowed down to about 20. There was a 'cattleguard' painted on the road
and she fell for it. Stupid cow!

I don't like walking across the real ones myself. I always have a vision
of a foot slipping between the rails followed by a broken ankle.

On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 9:46:44 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 05/17/2016 04:37 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
The second is the old style guard with bars on the ground perpendicular
to the road. There's a little hole dug under the bars. Vehicles can
drive over
easily but cattle are afraid to walk over it.

I was following a woman on one of the Nevada backroads, and she was
moving along pretty well. All of a sudden, she climbed on the brakes and
slowed down to about 20. There was a 'cattleguard' painted on the road
and she fell for it. Stupid cow!

I don't like walking across the real ones myself. I always have a vision
of a foot slipping between the rails followed by a broken ankle.

You just need to learn to do this and then you can just flit your way
across the rails. I'm sure the cows will be amused.

http://ballet.isport.com/userfiles/G...-Advice_02.jpg

On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:38:34 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg
People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would work
for other livestock.

I'm familiar with this type in Florida. They were made from rail road
steel rails, spaced apart some distance. My understanding, the cattle
are in fear of crossing them. Hogs need a pen

On 05/16/2016 9:10 PM, philo wrote:
On 05/16/2016 08:38 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:


I ran across this while looking for a vehicle barrier gate for our
farm.
http://www.qcsupply.com/50008-drive-thru-electric-gate-adj-13-19.html
My parents' neighbors had this version:
http://www.grahamindustries.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/CattleGuard.jpg

People always called it a cattle guard. I have no idea if it would work
for other livestock.




Out west, they'd put closely spaced RR tracks in the ground spaced in
such a way that the cattle's hoofs would get caught or at any rate made
it too difficult to cross.

It worked so well that in some places, all they had to do was paint the
lines on the road and the cattle would keep away

RR rail has the advantage of being stout enough to hold any large
equipment albeit the weight makes it a pita when constructing...most any
I've seen are thick-wall tubing/pipe.

All that is really needed for the concept to work is enough of an
illusion that there's a hole/depression between the rails--they're
afraid by instinct of getting hoof caught in such a crevice so will not
venture onto the surface--hence they stay on the right side of the fence.

There doesn't need to be any "conditioning" with an actual device for
the deception to work; it relies solely on the visual effect. (Hence,
occasionally snow is a deterrent; it covers up such and is thus rendered
ineffective. The saving grace there is that once have been in a given
location for a while they tend to gravitate to and stay in particular
areas so it may never be tested.

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On 05/17/2016 08:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You just need to learn to do this and then you can just flit your way
across the rails. I'm sure the cows will be amused.

http://ballet.isport.com/userfiles/G...-Advice_02.jpg

Yeah, right. En pointe in my size 13 RedWing boots. If the cows even
look amused I'll stick one up their methane port.

On 05/17/2016 12:21 PM, dpb wrote:
RR rail has the advantage of being stout enough to hold any large
equipment albeit the weight makes it a pita when constructing...most any
I've seen are thick-wall tubing/pipe.

That's no lie. I have bad memories of lifting one out of the way to
shovel out the debris after it filled up. The guy on the other end was a
big, dumb Swede and I wasn't about to admit I couldn't get my end up but
I could feel my balls heading south.

That was 25 years ago. Today I'd go back and get the tractor.

On Tue, 17 May 2016 22:08:13 -0500, rbowman wrote:

On 05/17/2016 08:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You just need to learn to do this and then you can just flit your way
across the rails. I'm sure the cows will be amused.

http://ballet.isport.com/userfiles/G...-Advice_02.jpg

Yeah, right. En pointe in my size 13 RedWing boots. If the cows even
look amused I'll stick one up their methane port.

I see you wrote "cows".


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On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 8:28:12 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2016 22:08:13 -0500, rbowman wrote:

On 05/17/2016 08:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
You just need to learn to do this and then you can just flit your way
across the rails. I'm sure the cows will be amused.

http://ballet.isport.com/userfiles/G...-Advice_02.jpg

Yeah, right. En pointe in my size 13 RedWing boots. If the cows even
look amused I'll stick one up their methane port.

I see you wrote "cows".


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in disneys animal kingdom thetour busses easily drive over the gate areas.

tubing is electrified so animal cant change lands