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During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out).
This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? |
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On 03/29/2016 10:05 AM, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? Possibly a problem in the service panel...one of the main wires could have a poor connection. Since that could lead to arcing and burning, I'd call an electrician. |
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 11:05:15 AM UTC-4, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? I'd say it could be any of the above, except the specific light fixtures since it's happening in multiple fixtures. First thing I'd do is determine if they are all on the same breaker. If so, then it's likely a problem with that breaker or the wiring in that circuit. If it's occurring on more than one circuit, are they all on the same leg of the service? That's the diagnostic path I'd follow. |
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On 3/29/2016 11:05 AM, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? I've seen several different problems. Almost all require work inside the breaker or fuse panel. Time to call electrician. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 3/29/2016 8:05 AM, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). Dear Gary (of the Water Closet), I have described the American phenomenon of Pop Culture as the "dumbing down of America," the two being a metaphor for the same idea. Truly, in like vein, the American mind is lately perceived as a dimming lightbulb, a mere phantom of its former self. Discuss this philosophical issue. |
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To: Colonel Edmund J. Burke
I'm NOT "WATER CLOSET GARY" or "GARY (OF THE WATER CLOSET)". How is your comment related to "Dimming Lights"? |
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 9:31:37 AM UTC-7, GARYWC wrote:
To: Colonel Edmund J. Burke I'm NOT "WATER CLOSET GARY" or "GARY (OF THE WATER CLOSET)". How is your comment related to "Dimming Lights"? Just ignore/killfile cornholer the troll Most everyone else already does |
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On 3/29/2016 9:33 AM, Shade Tree Guy wrote:
On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 9:31:37 AM UTC-7, GARYWC wrote: To: Colonel Edmund J. Burke I'm NOT "WATER CLOSET GARY" or "GARY (OF THE WATER CLOSET)". How is your comment related to "Dimming Lights"? Just ignore/killfile cornholer the troll Most everyone else already does No! Don't do it, Gary! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! |
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On 3/29/2016 11:05 AM, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? Pretty much any of the above. Poor ground too. I had a similar situation and it was the breaker. Changed it out and no more dimming. Can you determine of all the lights are on the same breaker? Next step is to determine if they are all on one leg. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, call an electrician. |
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 11:05:15 AM UTC-4, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? First, what do you mean become dim. Do they dim for about 2 seconds and return to normal, or do they dim for several minutes? If for only a few seconds, this might be normal and may be casued by a motor starting like the compressor in your fridge. Are these lights on a dimmer (this is a serious question)? Lights that are dimmed in a dimmer, become more sensitive to small normal changes in the voltage from the power company. Mark |
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On 3/29/2016 8:05 AM, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). Chances are, these are on more than one circuit (unless you have a VERY old home). But, that would be the first thing to check -- along with what *else* might be on that same circuit (e.g., if you've got a wall outlet and someone has a clothes iron plugged in, you'll probably see something like that as the iron's heating element switches on and off thermostatically). Next, see if they are on the same "leg" (a bit harder to do without knowing what your load center looks like). I.e., what do they have in common. This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Are all of the lights in question incandescent? TV's, computers and other electrical devices have different power conditioning and compensate for minor line variations. Incandescent lamps are "raw loads" so you "see" every glitch in the power. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply Unlikely unless these are all on the same leg and you have a large local imbalance (usually, ~4 homes are fed from a single transformer so the problem would need to manifest within this grouping) the service panel Possibly a loose connection the individual circuit breaker(s) Also possible -- if the loads are on the *same* breaker (unlikely for two breakers to fail simultaneously) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights Also possible. E.g., if all loads connect to one breaker and that connection has a high resistance joint somewhere along its length) the specific light fixtures or ??? Unlikely if you are seeing this on multiple fixtures/lamps |
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 10:05:15 AM UTC-5, GARYWC wrote:
During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? If you have a small battery powered AM radio, you can tune it to a vacant section of the band and listen for a crackling noise when the lights dim. This would indicate an arc somewhere. If you play with the volume control as you move the radio around the room, you may be able to determine the general area of the house where the arc is located. I've used an AM/FM pocket radio tuned to the AM band to find live wires in a wall before I obtained a voltage detector but the radio is more sensitive to the electrical/RF noise produced by an arc. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Arc Monster |
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On 3/29/2016 2:49 PM, Mustaffa Sheboygan wrote:
In article , says... On 3/29/2016 8:05 AM, GARYWC wrote: During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). Dear Gary (of the Water Closet), I have described the American phenomenon of Pop Culture as the "dumbing down of America," the two being a metaphor for the same idea. Truly, in like vein, the American mind is lately perceived as a dimming lightbulb, a mere phantom of its former self. Discuss this philosophical issue. Tell Gary he probably has a bad neutral connection, or the power company could have a bad neutral connection feeding his house. Okay, I will. Over and out, like we said in Nam. |
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The lights may start off dim or they may become dim then stay dim.
The dimming doesn't seem to occur when an appliance (i.e., air conditioner, washing machine, furnace, refrigerator, etc) comes on. Some of the "dimming" lights are controlled by dimmer-switches and some aren't. The lights that dim have the "old fashioned" incandescent bulbs; lights with CLF bulbs do not dim. (I do not have CFLs on dimmer-switches). |
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On 2016-03-30 4:49 PM, GARYWC wrote:
The lights may start off dim or they may become dim then stay dim. The dimming doesn't seem to occur when an appliance (i.e., air conditioner, washing machine, furnace, refrigerator, etc) comes on. Some of the "dimming" lights are controlled by dimmer-switches and some aren't. The lights that dim have the "old fashioned" incandescent bulbs; lights with CLF bulbs do not dim. (I do not have CFLs on dimmer-switches). If you have a meter and know how to use it safely, pull a dimmed bulb, and check for voltage at the socket, anything less than 110VAC is a possible sign of a problem. Time to call a pro, because your next call could be the fire department.. -- Froz... Quando omni flunkus, moritati |
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![]() During the last three weeks, SOME of the lights in my living room, den and bathrooms become dim at times and are normal at other times. (None of the light bulbs in those fixtures have burned out). This condition does NOT seem to affect lights in other rooms, TVs, computers, appliances and other electrical devices. Might this problem be with: the city's power supply the service panel the individual circuit breaker(s) the wires between the circuit breaker and the affected lights the specific light fixtures or ??? Your problem could be caused by any of the aforementioned and also loose connections. I suggest that you call your power company first and have them check their connections and wires. Overhead wires rubbing against a tree limb or part of the house can eventually lead to this problem. |
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Resolved: For almost a month, the lights in my house have been dimming and flickering. Based on most of the replies to my original post, I assumed the problem was either with our circuit-breaker(s) or with the wiring/fixtures in my house so I was going to call an electrician today.
However, last week, I reported the problem to my city's utility department. Yesterday morning, a city utility worker came out and checked my circuit panel (it was OK) and he determined that the problem was with faulty connections in both the city's transformer (at the street) and the meter pedestal so he called in a team of city utility workers. About noon, 7 utililty workers in 5 trucks arrived and four hours later, my dimming/flickering lights problem had been resolved at NO COST to me. Now, I can see clearly again. If I had called an electrician first, it would have cost me $$$$$$ and he would NOT been able to fix the dimming/flickering lights problem because it was caused by the faulty connection in the city's equipment. |
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On 5/17/2016 10:11 AM, GARYWC wrote:
Resolved: For almost a month, the lights in my house have been dimming and flickering. Based on most of the replies to my original post, I assumed the problem was either with our circuit-breaker(s) or with the wiring/fixtures in my house so I was going to call an electrician today. However, last week, I reported the problem to my city's utility department. Yesterday morning, a city utility worker came out and checked my circuit panel (it was OK) and he determined that the problem was with faulty connections in both the city's transformer (at the street) and the meter pedestal so he called in a team of city utility workers. About noon, 7 utililty workers in 5 trucks arrived and four hours later, my dimming/flickering lights problem had been resolved at NO COST to me. Now, I can see clearly again. If I had called an electrician first, it would have cost me $$$$$$ and he would NOT been able to fix the dimming/flickering lights problem because it was caused by the faulty connection in the city's equipment. First and most, thanks for telling us what you and they found. It is always good to learn what works. Nice to know it was no charge on your bill. That's the best kind. One time a friend (two story house with cellar, circit breaker penal in cellar) noted lights flickering. I can't remember all the details, but the problem turned out to be where the power feed comes into the panel. Goes through a double 100 breakeer, into the vertical conductor bars. And there was corrosion beweeen the input breaker and the bars. One night we went down there with a couple flash lights. Turned off the power to the house via the double 100 breaker. Pulled the breaker off the panel. Scraped and sanded the bars where the breaker snaps on. Squirt in some anti oxidant and put it back together. No charge, we both worked free. Flickering resolved. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT), GARYWC
wrote: Resolved: For almost a month, the lights in my house have been dimming and flickering. Based on most of the replies to my original post, I assumed the problem was either with our circuit-breaker(s) or with the wiring/fixtures in my house so I was going to call an electrician today. However, last week, I reported the problem to my city's utility department. Yesterday morning, a city utility worker came out and checked my circuit panel (it was OK) and he determined that the problem was with faulty connections in both the city's transformer (at the street) and the meter pedestal so he called in a team of city utility workers. About noon, 7 utililty workers in 5 trucks arrived and four hours later, my dimming/flickering lights problem had been resolved at NO COST to me. Now, I can see clearly again. If I had called an electrician first, it would have cost me $$$$$$ and he would NOT been able to fix the dimming/flickering lights problem because it was caused by the faulty connection in the city's equipment. Gary, Thanks for the update, with the final results. I followed the thread a little but not being an electrician I often refrain from giving advice. The utility company sent an army. Good for you G |
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