Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

On 1/23/16 6:27 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

watch over the ambulance crews as they respond to those in need...

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

....put the spirit of volunteerism into the hearts of the
healthy so they will shovel for those that can not.

....put the spirit of understanding into the hearts of those
that are going to complain about the travel ban because they
were inconvenienced.

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:27:52 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....


.. ..make sure prisons keep the do-bad's where they belong on these
tough times. So our neighbors sleep well at night, free from danger
and fear. Praise them for a the thankless job they do.

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 5:27:52 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster

On 1/23/2016 10:21 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:27:52 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....


. ..make sure prisons keep the do-bad's where they belong on these
tough times. So our neighbors sleep well at night, free from danger
and fear. Praise them for a the thankless job they do.


Even if the dobads are political correct protected
Syrians, who are being imported like wolves.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/23/2016 7:41 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 6:27:52 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

...put the spirit of volunteerism into the hearts of the
healthy so they will shovel for those that can not.

...put the spirit of understanding into the hearts of those
that are going to complain about the travel ban because they
were inconvenienced.


And, dear God, please help keep the power and gas on
for those who are home and cold. May their food last
till they can get to the store, and please put food
in the stores for the shoppers.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 01/24/2016 08:12 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, dear God, please help keep the power and gas on
for those who are home and cold. May their food last
till they can get to the store, and please put food
in the stores for the shoppers.

Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good to fast for a week or so.

Per Uncle Monster:
Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

When I was in basic training we had to sit through some chaplains'
explanation of why what we might wind up doing was consistent with our
supposed religious beliefs.

I was sitting next to a guy from somewhere down south - heavy accent -
and, when it came time for all of us to kneel down and offer our
personal prayers, I heard from next to me "God, send me beer and
pussy!"...
--
Pete Cresswell

On 1/24/2016 6:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 5:27:52 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God.....

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster


LOL!! I agree with that sentiment!

--
Maggie

On 1/24/2016 8:46 AM, jack wrote:
On 01/24/2016 08:12 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, dear God, please help keep the power and gas on
for those who are home and cold. May their food last
till they can get to the store, and please put food
in the stores for the shoppers.

Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

You are so, so right. Let us know how
it goes.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/24/2016 7:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster


Next hurricane, let me know about a week
in advance. I'll mail you a book of matches
and a pack of birthday candles.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 01/24/2016 02:52 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/24/2016 8:46 AM, jack wrote:
On 01/24/2016 08:12 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, dear God, please help keep the power and gas on
for those who are home and cold. May their food last
till they can get to the store, and please put food
in the stores for the shoppers.

Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

You are so, so right. Let us know how
it goes.


https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-pr...sting?lang=eng

On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.

On 01/24/2016 04:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South

South Boston doesn't count! :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZfCar-Ks8

On 01/28/2016 12:01 AM, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.


Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.

"Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God..... "

Protect us from future storms, and deliver
the healing you know our broken planet
needs, in the name of Jesus..

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:53:33 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/24/2016 7:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster

Next hurricane, let me know about a week
in advance. I'll mail you a book of matches
and a pack of birthday candles.
--
.
Didn't a really bad hurricane hit New York and New Jersey? The subways got flushed out, all the underground critters washed away and the alligators went home. When a hurricane comes through The Gulf of Mexico, here in the middle of Alabamastan with hills and mountains, we catch the edge of the weather system and not the full force of the hurricane but the resulting severe thunderstorms and occasional tornadoes are bad enough. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Wet Monster

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 3:46:45 AM UTC-6, Hogan wrote:
On 01/28/2016 12:01 AM, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.


Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.

When I was a fat kid, we kids went outside to play and ride bicycles. Where do fat kids go to play theses days? Um, let me see,... oh yea! They go to exercise their pudgy little thumbs! I remember JFK promoting national fitness and we fat kids had PE classes at school. Where the hell did Physical Education classes in the school systems go? Phys-ed seems to have been replaced with Political Correctness class. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Fat Monster

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 11:04:25 PM UTC-6, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 04:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South

South Boston doesn't count! :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZfCar-Ks8

I love that old stuff because it causes the Hysterically Howling Progressive Liberal Leftists Commiecrat Freak Politically Correct Trans Intellectuals to have seizures. I really like to watch them drool and flop around on the floor. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Callous Monster

On 1/28/2016 6:29 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:53:33 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/24/2016 7:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster

Next hurricane, let me know about a week
in advance. I'll mail you a book of matches
and a pack of birthday candles.
--
.
Didn't a really bad hurricane hit New York and New Jersey? The subways got flushed out, all the underground critters washed away and the alligators went home. When a hurricane comes through The Gulf of Mexico, here in the middle of Alabamastan with hills and mountains, we catch the edge of the weather system and not the full force of the hurricane but the resulting severe thunderstorms and occasional tornadoes are bad enough. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Wet Monster

Yes, there was Hurricane Sandy a couple years ago.
Wiped out NYC and NJ, as you mention. I'm not sure
it improved much, they probably rebuilt the same
type of construction. Did you want the trick birthday
candles that can't be blown out?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2016 6:29 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:53:33 PM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/24/2016 7:56 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

Dear Lord, thank God I live in The South. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Reverent Monster

Next hurricane, let me know about a week
in advance. I'll mail you a book of matches
and a pack of birthday candles.
--
.
Didn't a really bad hurricane hit New York and New Jersey? The subways got flushed out, all the underground critters washed away and the alligators went home. When a hurricane comes through The Gulf of Mexico, here in the middle of Alabamastan with hills and mountains, we catch the edge of the weather system and not the full force of the hurricane but the resulting severe thunderstorms and occasional tornadoes are bad enough. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Wet Monster

Yes, there was Hurricane Sandy a couple years ago.
Wiped out NYC and NJ, as you mention. I'm not sure
it improved much, they probably rebuilt the same
type of construction. Did you want the trick birthday
candles that can't be blown out?
--
.
Na, we have wood burning stoves where we burn all the debris that the wind carried down South from the storms up North. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Windy Monster

On 1/28/2016 4:46 AM, Hogan wrote:
Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.


And, dear God, please help the obese kids
during the storm. Don't let them all be
sold to Eskimos for blubber.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/28/2016 6:05 AM, wrote:
"Dear God, please keep people healthy through
this storm. Guide them through snow covered
streets, keep their hearts beating as they
shovel and snow move. Bless the snow plow
drivers, that they may have all the hot food
and bathroom breaks they need. Guide their
machines so they move snow, and miss the parked
cars. And dear God..... "

Protect us from future storms, and deliver
the healing you know our broken planet
needs, in the name of Jesus..


Amen to that!

And, why do we have an on topic post on this list?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/28/2016 7:59 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Yes, there was Hurricane Sandy a couple years ago.
Wiped out NYC and NJ, as you mention. I'm not sure
it improved much, they probably rebuilt the same
type of construction. Did you want the trick birthday
candles that can't be blown out?
--
.
Na, we have wood burning stoves where we burn all the debris that the wind carried down South from the storms up North. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Windy Monster


A few people up nawth have wood burning devices.
Even fewer have backup light and heat for the home.
We pretty much huddle under blankets and freeze
when there is a service interruption of any kind.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 1/28/2016 7:59 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Na, we have wood burning stoves where we burn all the debris that the wind carried down South from the storms up North. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Windy Monster


I may be in South Carolina in a week or so. Plans to
visit a friend, near Greenville. He lives in trailer
on land. Heat pump, no wood burner.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Per T:
That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.

What year are reckoning from?

Obesity levels have increased significantly just since 1988-1994.
viz http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db56.pdf
--
Pete Cresswell

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 7:50:15 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2016 4:46 AM, Hogan wrote:
Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.

And, dear God, please help the obese kids
during the storm. Don't let them all be
sold to Eskimos for blubber.
--
.
Fat children cook up real good, they're self basting. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hungry Monster

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 7:56:00 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/28/2016 7:59 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 6:51:24 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Yes, there was Hurricane Sandy a couple years ago.
Wiped out NYC and NJ, as you mention. I'm not sure
it improved much, they probably rebuilt the same
type of construction. Did you want the trick birthday
candles that can't be blown out?
--
.
Na, we have wood burning stoves where we burn all the debris that the wind carried down South from the storms up North. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Windy Monster

A few people up nawth have wood burning devices.
Even fewer have backup light and heat for the home.
We pretty much huddle under blankets and freeze
when there is a service interruption of any kind.
--
.
Many people in Alabamastan have backup generators that run on natural gas which is widely available here. I must wonder if it's because the adoption and infrastructure for natural gas is so much newer than that for heating oil? It's like in developing nations where cellphones are more common because there is no copper wire communications network that's been in existence for so many years. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Gassy Monster

On 01/28/2016 03:53 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 3:46:45 AM UTC-6, Hogan wrote:
On 01/28/2016 12:01 AM, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.


Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.

When I was a fat kid, we kids went outside to play and ride bicycles. Where do fat kids go to play theses days? Um, let me see,... oh yea! They go to exercise their pudgy little thumbs! I remember JFK promoting national fitness and we fat kids had PE classes at school. Where the hell did Physical Education classes in the school systems go? Phys-ed seems to have been replaced with Political Correctness class. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Fat Monster


When I was a kid, all the fat kids where under a lot of social pressure.
Social pressure to sign up for the football team!

On 01/28/2016 01:46 AM, Hogan wrote:
On 01/28/2016 12:01 AM, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.


Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.



The actual numbers haven't really changed. What has changed
it is the way it is define.

Don't use the press as a source. Wait till the next time
you are stuck (curses!) behind a school buss unloading tons
of youngins and see if the ration is any different that
your remember as a kid

On 01/28/2016 11:25 AM, T wrote:
On 01/28/2016 01:46 AM, Hogan wrote:
On 01/28/2016 12:01 AM, T wrote:
On 01/24/2016 05:46 AM, jack wrote:
Over 70% of US population is overweight or obese. It would do them good
to fast for a week or so.

That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.
Hmmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with a Weight Watcher
executive being on the panel that come out with the new guidelines?
Naw. Can't be.


Yah, Weight Watchers is in business to sell packaged meals so I don't
doubt
there might be some evil there.

But FWIW, I was looking at an old (1970) high school class photo the
other
day and noticed out of 100 kids only 3 were noticeably overweight.

Compare that to the typical class photo today and you'll see at least 50%
of the kids are overweight.



The actual numbers haven't really changed. What has changed
it is the way it is define.
defined

Don't use the press as a source. Wait till the next time
you are stuck (curses!) behind a school buss unloading tons
of youngins and see if the ration is any different that
ratio
your remember as a kid

stinking typoes

On 01/28/2016 06:30 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per T:
That has not changed. The way obesity is measured has changed.

What year are reckoning from?

Obesity levels have increased significantly just since 1988-1994.
viz http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db56.pdf


Got to go to work, but I will try to look up my source
tomorrow. The "increased significantly" is just a change
in the way it is measured. And no doubt Weight Watchers
being part of the new metrics had a lot to do with it.

Speaking of self interest, every time you diet you
put on more weight to compensate for the foolish artificial
famine you just put yourself through.

Hmmmmm. Don't suppose Weight Watchers knew this
when .... Nah. No conflict of interest there. No.
None at all.

Epigenetic changes caused by the artificial famine? '
Nah. Couldn't be.

Oh and lets all make fun of fat folks so they will diet
even more and make those that prey on them even richer.
Nah. Couldn't be ...

Per T:
Got to go to work, but I will try to look up my source
tomorrow. The "increased significantly" is just a change
in the way it is measured. And no doubt Weight Watchers
being part of the new metrics had a lot to do with it.

I was a "fat kid" in all the way though grade school, junior high, and
high school - so maybe I am more preoccupied with this than most.

Having said that...

I clearly remember when fat kids were a rarity. In my high school class
there was me and another kid and that was it.

When I went to my grandson's high school graduation, I should have done
an actual count, but it was obvious that obesity had become mainstream.

When I was a kid, morbidly-obese people were a rarity. Now I see them
everywhere. It's really obvious to me.

I have also seen one young woman firsthand go from a typical
good-looking girl in her late teens to morbidly-obese,
thighs-rubbing-when-she-walks in her mid twenties....

Saw it with my own eyes and have family photos to document the change.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 01/29/2016 05:24 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per T:
Got to go to work, but I will try to look up my source
tomorrow. The "increased significantly" is just a change
in the way it is measured. And no doubt Weight Watchers
being part of the new metrics had a lot to do with it.

I was a "fat kid" in all the way though grade school, junior high, and
high school - so maybe I am more preoccupied with this than most.

Having said that...

I clearly remember when fat kids were a rarity. In my high school class
there was me and another kid and that was it.

When I went to my grandson's high school graduation, I should have done
an actual count, but it was obvious that obesity had become mainstream.

When I was a kid, morbidly-obese people were a rarity. Now I see them
everywhere. It's really obvious to me.

I have also seen one young woman firsthand go from a typical
good-looking girl in her late teens to morbidly-obese,
thighs-rubbing-when-she-walks in her mid twenties....

Saw it with my own eyes and have family photos to document the change.


Hi Pete,

Did you get a lot of pressure to join the football team?

I remember a study when I was a kid that said young people
were more afraid of getting fat than from nuclear war.

Here is when the standard changed (1998):
http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9806/17/weight.guidelines/

If you have an hour or so of your life you don't know what
to do with or what back, the Fat Heads documentary goes
into it in depth:
http://www.fathead-movie.com/

What I noticed from when I was young to now is a huge increase
in fat bigotry. And the more you harass fat people, the
more they diet, and the bigger they get.

Also, birth control pills make women put on a lot of weight,
so you may be noticing that too. And not breast feeding
will do that too.

And tastes have changed since the advent of the television.
Skinny women were considered unhealthy and had to put up
with a lot of the same scorn that fat women have to put up
with now.

Me personally, I like my women to look like real women.
Women that look like teenage boys are not my thing.
But then again, I am STRONGLY heterosexual. But to
each his own.

And I try to never treat anyone badly for the way they look.
It very well may be Jesus come to test me. (I can
provide chapter and verse on that one, if you like.)
At businesses where I have a choice of dealing with a fat
or a skinny female rep, I always go for the fat one as I
know the kind of wickedness fat women have to put up with.
And you know what, you get treated a lot better too.

-T

Per T:

Did you get a lot of pressure to join the football team?

None. I was what they call "Skinny Fat".... 265#, but just a big bag
of bones with hundreds of pounds of lard hanging on it. The joke was
to push me down on the ground in the middle of the athletic field
because I was too weak to get back up on my feet unassisted. I had to
crawl on my hands and knees to a goalpost to get up.

Pre-puberty, my father took me to this "Fat Doctor" in NYC. He put me
on amphetamines and prescribed a supervised exercise program.

My dad didn't think much of the exercise supervisor, so we went with the
amphetamines....

I think the amphetamines delayed my physical maturity (I didn't mature
until my senior year in high school) and had a permanent effect on my
nervous system.... plus I gained any lost weight back, hence the "Skinny
Fat" bag-of-bones picture.


What I noticed from when I was young to now is a huge increase
in fat bigotry. And the more you harass fat people, the
more they diet, and the bigger they get.

Twenty+ years ago, when we used to go to Germany to visit in-laws,
morbid obesity there was almost unknown. Plenty of thick, stocky
people that you might call "fat" but almost zero morbid obesity.

The exception was this one guy that the family knew. He weighted well
over 300# and was basically a social outcast because of it.

Now, in the photos I see from over there, obese people seem more common
and I would guess that guy is back in the mainstream of society.

I had the rare privilege of working with the same 300-odd people for
about 25 years. I have seen a lot of people lose weight, but cannot
think of anyone who did not eventually regain the lost weight plus
noticeably more.

I think the problem is that people think in terms of dieting to lose
weight and then, having lost the weight, getting back to
life-as-usual.... when the truth of the matter is that a lifestyle
change is required.

My own weight loss was the result of severe illness in my freshman year
of college when I lost over 100 pounds. The lifestyle change had
already begun when I started running (actually shambling/shuffling..) in
the summer after my senior year in high school. Once the illness
passed, I kept up the running and became something of an
exercise-obsessive.


And tastes have changed since the advent of the television.
Skinny women were considered unhealthy and had to put up
with a lot of the same scorn that fat women have to put up
with now.

Me personally, I like my women to look like real women.
Women that look like teenage boys are not my thing.
But then again, I am STRONGLY heterosexual. But to
each his own.

I read an interesting article on the Kingdom of Bhutan.

Until relatively recently, their populace had zero exposure to outside
magazines, television, or electronic media.

They showed photos of women representative of the prevailing standards
of beauty before and after the incursion of outside media.

"Before" were sturdy, good-natured, practical-looking women.

"After" were the same ones we see: skinny, big boobs, bony shoulders,
looking like they weren't good for much of anything except the camera.


At businesses where I have a choice of dealing with a fat
or a skinny female rep, I always go for the fat one as I
know the kind of wickedness fat women have to put up with.
And you know what, you get treated a lot better too.

My #1 daughter had a good story last week.

She works part time as the bookkeeper for her township.

The township secretary (also not full-time) weighed about 400#, had
maybe 25# of her teeth, had bad breath that would peel paint; and was a
joy to work with. Ask her to have some papers ready, and they would be
*there*.... and she would do anything to help.

To cut to the chase, she was replaced by an decent-looking woman who was
lazy, uncooperative and basically a PITA to work with.

The high point of the #1 daughter's 2016 year was when that woman got
caught altering the health care data in order to get herself into a full
time employee's coverage - and got sacked because of it.
--
Pete Cresswell

Per (PeteCresswell):
...maybe 25# of her teeth

SHB: ... maybe 25% of her teeth
--
Pete Cresswell

On 01/30/2016 08:12 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per (PeteCresswell):
...maybe 25# of her teeth

SHB: ... maybe 25% of her teeth


Hi Pete,

I start to count my own teeth. :-)

Don't worry, you have about 4000 typos to catch up with me.
It doesn't matter how much I proof read either. They
don't show up till I press send.

When I got diagnosed with T2 Diabetes, I got a rude awakening. I
thought I was doing all the right things, like healthy carbs
(there is no such thing) and all. Turns out what I was doing
was believing those special interests that had something to gain
by injuring me (T2 is an injury, not a disease).

When I pitches the drug (Metformin) and the side effects
subsided, I became Primal, limited my carbs to 15 per
meal and 60 total per day. And here is the clincher,
I regulated the "type" of carbs I consumed. I keep
my "Glycemic Load" down to a max of 10 per day. All
my cooking is "Home Cooking".

The "high load" carbs (grains, potatoes, apples oranges, bananas)
have all been hybridized for unnatural levels of carbs not
found in nature. And they are what injured me. They are also
highly addictive. And now that homemaking is mocked and
home cooking is a lost art form, we eat these repaired
artistically high carb, addictive food like substances.

And here is the kicker. You can't get fat from fat. To
get fat, you require 1) carbs to get artificially elevated
blood sugar and 2) the fat hormone, also know as insulin.
With the absolute garbage we consume, it is surprising we
are not all keeling over. Right now one in eleven of
us have been injured with T2.

I taught myself to cook, much to my wife delight. Primal
food is so very good I can not believe how well I
eat.

Drug free now for over two years. I am thriving, not
just surviving.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

-T

Per T:
To
get fat, you require 1) carbs to get artificially elevated
blood sugar and 2) the fat hormone, also know as insulin.

That is pretty much Lustig's main point - except that he would add that
sugar is much, much, much worse than any other carb because our bodies
never adapted to metabolizing it without doing damage.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 02/01/2016 05:14 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per T:
To
get fat, you require 1) carbs to get artificially elevated
blood sugar and 2) the fat hormone, also know as insulin.

That is pretty much Lustig's main point - except that he would add that
sugar is much, much, much worse than any other carb because our bodies
never adapted to metabolizing it without doing damage.


From a diabetic's standpoint, below the chin, carbs
are the same as sugar. Both do the same damage to
the human body