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W10 activation issue
FrozenNorth submitted this idea :
On 2015-12-22 5:14 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:48:32 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: On 2015-12-22 4:39 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:07:31 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: BTW - what is the current build number? 10586.36 Thanks. 11082.1000 here, but I am on the insiders program. Is it free by just signing up? I'm guessing they are "preview" builds you can activate. Buggy or stable versions? Yep, free for the singup, they are beta builds, I have seen little odd things, but no show stoppers, I seem to be getting a new entire build every month or two. They have three rings, Fast, Slow and Release, Fast is a bit more bleeding edge, I am on that, but as I said, so far so good. Slow is after the fast testing has happened, and will not get every build, Release is obvious. Is it possible to move from Vista 64 bit to Win10 64 bit and get around that limitation? Saying I start with a clean install? I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. I have a Vista machine I had no problems with other than being slow, but that was from the processor being a old AMD. I have an older tower running XP with a Celeron processor that works still, but is slower than cooter brown. My storage tower runs a P-3 with very little memory and six 18 gig scsi drives. My W7 tower popped the cpu twice, so it sits waiting for a differet mobo. My real estate agent gave Me this Dell Inspiron 660, so I put it in line. :D |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
TomR laid this down on his screen : In , Eagle typed: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ I was assuming that since you are able to post here, you have access to the Internet. For the computer in question, does it only have a modem to access the Internet, or does it also have a NIC card and/or WiFi capability? Wireless wi-fi. I don't think you can activate any Windows program without Internet access since I think that Microsoft has to be able to "see" your computer to do the activation so it can recognize the motherboard and other components as part of the activation. That was the problem with W7, the wi-fi ability wasn't loaded when I installed My copy of W7 ultimate so no internet. Maybe you could use whatever computer you are using to access the Internet to post here and try to find the right driver for your modem and then copy it via USB thumb drive to the problem computer. Or, take the problem computer to a place that can access the Internet via NIC card or WiFi or whatever. Or, beg, borrow, or steal a NIC card from another computer or another person and put it in the problem computer. I have 5 other outdated computers here including one I use as data storage using scci drives. It doesn't matter how outdated the comp is , you can still use it to DL the win7 driver you need and load it on a thumb drive . P4 and WIN2K/SP4 will do that ... -- Snag BTDT |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs brought next idea :
Eagle wrote: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . DUH? I have the driver on one of My 8 gig USB sticks, and it didn't do any good DUH. |
W10 activation issue
After serious thinking Terry Coombs wrote :
Eagle wrote: TomR laid this down on his screen : In , Eagle typed: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ I was assuming that since you are able to post here, you have access to the Internet. For the computer in question, does it only have a modem to access the Internet, or does it also have a NIC card and/or WiFi capability? Wireless wi-fi. I don't think you can activate any Windows program without Internet access since I think that Microsoft has to be able to "see" your computer to do the activation so it can recognize the motherboard and other components as part of the activation. That was the problem with W7, the wi-fi ability wasn't loaded when I installed My copy of W7 ultimate so no internet. Maybe you could use whatever computer you are using to access the Internet to post here and try to find the right driver for your modem and then copy it via USB thumb drive to the problem computer. Or, take the problem computer to a place that can access the Internet via NIC card or WiFi or whatever. Or, beg, borrow, or steal a NIC card from another computer or another person and put it in the problem computer. I have 5 other outdated computers here including one I use as data storage using scci drives. It doesn't matter how outdated the comp is , you can still use it to DL the win7 driver you need and load it on a thumb drive . P4 and WIN2K/SP4 will do that ... And your point is? |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
Terry Coombs brought next idea : Eagle wrote: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . DUH? I have the driver on one of My 8 gig USB sticks, and it didn't do any good DUH. Duh, you have to point where your driver files are(your USB stick) make sure none are zipped or compressed form. Sounds like you are not really upto it. Just download mediacreationtool(64 bit or 32 bit version) depending your upgrade candidate. Run this utility, follow up step by step. If you are unable to do this, you need babysitting help holding your hands.. |
W10 activation issue
Oren wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
Mark Lloyd wrote on 12/22/2015 : On 12/22/2015 07:07 AM, Eagle wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? As to "the built-in modem will not load", I suppose you mean the driver for a "soft modem" that requires software. As to activation, I'm wondering how much you actually lose by not having W10 activated (other than that reminder). So far I don't see much other than no beg to activate. I'm thinking on installing My 40 gig HD and run linux. The new builds look like they work more better now. With the current atmosphere vis-a-vis Windows , Ubuntu is looking better and better ... I wonder if they might be subtly sabotaging XP , seems odd little quirks are popping up more and more often lately ... Gotta win the wife over though for a change that big . GUI is pretty good , but the "feel" is different . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
Tony Hwang explained on 12/22/2015 : Eagle wrote: Mark Lloyd wrote on 12/22/2015 : On 12/22/2015 07:07 AM, Eagle wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? As to "the built-in modem will not load", I suppose you mean the driver for a "soft modem" that requires software. As to activation, I'm wondering how much you actually lose by not having W10 activated (other than that reminder). So far I don't see much other than no beg to activate. I'm thinking on installing My 40 gig HD and run linux. The new builds look like they work more better now. If you don't activate it, you don't get update, etc. You could just update w7 to W10, if it can't it'll put back every back to W7. Modem? You use it for faxing or modem? All my desk top, laptops updated to W10 without a hitch. I manually updated to have triboot(Linux, W7, W10) I need W7 and IE to flash blade for remote starter kit. If you call MS, no warm body answers, just follow thru accordig to the prerecorded message, you better have good hearing and good typing speed or you'll spend quite a while to finish the process. Already done Tony. I like W7 more better, but I'm getting used to W10. I like Edge over IE for sure. I use Chrome as well so IE doesn't get used. I had an issue with email, but cured that by going with T-Bird. All in all W10 gets the job done Ya Ya! Have you turned off the spyware yet ? -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Terry Coombs wrote : Eagle wrote: I have 5 other outdated computers here including one I use as data storage using scci drives. It doesn't matter how outdated the comp is , you can still use it to DL the win7 driver you need and load it on a thumb drive . P4 and WIN2K/SP4 will do that ... And your point is? That getting the proper W7 wireless LAN driver for that comp and installing it was not a problem . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
Terry Coombs brought next idea : Eagle wrote: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . DUH? I have the driver on one of My 8 gig USB sticks, and it didn't do any good DUH. Then you DL'ed the wrong driver DUH . Hey , I did the same thing just the other day for the wife's laptop , took me 3 tries before I found one that worked . Still can't figure out what happened , she's been using that comp for months with no issues (other than overheating ...) . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs wrote:
Eagle wrote: Tony Hwang explained on 12/22/2015 : Eagle wrote: Mark Lloyd wrote on 12/22/2015 : On 12/22/2015 07:07 AM, Eagle wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? As to "the built-in modem will not load", I suppose you mean the driver for a "soft modem" that requires software. As to activation, I'm wondering how much you actually lose by not having W10 activated (other than that reminder). So far I don't see much other than no beg to activate. I'm thinking on installing My 40 gig HD and run linux. The new builds look like they work more better now. If you don't activate it, you don't get update, etc. You could just update w7 to W10, if it can't it'll put back every back to W7. Modem? You use it for faxing or modem? All my desk top, laptops updated to W10 without a hitch. I manually updated to have triboot(Linux, W7, W10) I need W7 and IE to flash blade for remote starter kit. If you call MS, no warm body answers, just follow thru accordig to the prerecorded message, you better have good hearing and good typing speed or you'll spend quite a while to finish the process. Already done Tony. I like W7 more better, but I'm getting used to W10. I like Edge over IE for sure. I use Chrome as well so IE doesn't get used. I had an issue with email, but cured that by going with T-Bird. All in all W10 gets the job done Ya Ya! Have you turned off the spyware yet ? Some things I do such as flashing blade for remote starter, Only IE is compatible. (Using iDATA link web link flash utility) Omega link, Compustar link is same.) When I am not on Linux, I use W7 Ultimate 64 bit. I even have to play with DOS.... |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs wrote:
Eagle wrote: Mark Lloyd wrote on 12/22/2015 : On 12/22/2015 07:07 AM, Eagle wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? As to "the built-in modem will not load", I suppose you mean the driver for a "soft modem" that requires software. As to activation, I'm wondering how much you actually lose by not having W10 activated (other than that reminder). So far I don't see much other than no beg to activate. I'm thinking on installing My 40 gig HD and run linux. The new builds look like they work more better now. With the current atmosphere vis-a-vis Windows , Ubuntu is looking better and better ... I wonder if they might be subtly sabotaging XP , seems odd little quirks are popping up more and more often lately ... Gotta win the wife over though for a change that big . GUI is pretty good , but the "feel" is different . Made wife addict to iPAD, LOL! Ubuntu is now charging some nice apps. like W10. |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs wrote:
Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . Maybe you have to open it up, blow all the dust out, reapply HS paste for the cpu. Old Toshiba is built very well. |
W10 activation issue
Eagle wrote:
FrozenNorth submitted this idea : On 2015-12-22 5:14 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:48:32 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: On 2015-12-22 4:39 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:07:31 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: BTW - what is the current build number? 10586.36 Thanks. 11082.1000 here, but I am on the insiders program. Is it free by just signing up? I'm guessing they are "preview" builds you can activate. Buggy or stable versions? Yep, free for the singup, they are beta builds, I have seen little odd things, but no show stoppers, I seem to be getting a new entire build every month or two. They have three rings, Fast, Slow and Release, Fast is a bit more bleeding edge, I am on that, but as I said, so far so good. Slow is after the fast testing has happened, and will not get every build, Release is obvious. Is it possible to move from Vista 64 bit to Win10 64 bit and get around that limitation? Saying I start with a clean install? I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. I have a Vista machine I had no problems with other than being slow, but that was from the processor being a old AMD. I have an older tower running XP with a Celeron processor that works still, but is slower than cooter brown. My storage tower runs a P-3 with very little memory and six 18 gig scsi drives. My W7 tower popped the cpu twice, so it sits waiting for a differet mobo. My real estate agent gave Me this Dell Inspiron 660, so I put it in line. :D You trying to set up a museum?, LOL! I think none of your stuff is good candidate for W10 upgrade. You need minimum 8 GB memory for any thing these days. My main laptop is quad i7, 16GB memory, SSD, and 7200rpm SATA drives plus Blue ray writer. 17" screen. All desktop, laptops has minimum 8GB memory. I have a small NAS for back up and storage, I don't use cloud anything. |
W10 activation issue
Tony Hwang wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote: Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . Maybe you have to open it up, blow all the dust out, reapply HS paste for the cpu. Old Toshiba is built very well. Apparently this era of Tosh laptops had overheat issues - this is one of the early dual cores , an A215-S7437. I blow it out regularly to keep the dust off the fins of the heat exchanger , but it still does spurious reboots .. I've told her numerous times that she MUST leave the area of the fan open but it seems to fall on deaf ears . Oh , and I had it open just a couple of weeks ago doing a fan replacement .. The fan wasn't dead yet but it had made noise a couple of times so it was just a matter of time . -- Snag |
W10 activation issue
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:11:51 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote: explained : On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:07:48 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? Must activate 7 before upgrading to 10 or you are out of luck Naaaaa....The call from MS took care of the problem, and now I have an activated issue of W10 pro 64 bit. ^^ The one I was working on today wouldn't even install 10 because 7 wasn't activated - at least Win10 upgrade says it isn't activated. I'll see when I get back to it - likely tomorrow. |
W10 activation issue
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:30:08 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Eagle wrote: Tony Hwang explained on 12/22/2015 : Eagle wrote: Mark Lloyd wrote on 12/22/2015 : On 12/22/2015 07:07 AM, Eagle wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? As to "the built-in modem will not load", I suppose you mean the driver for a "soft modem" that requires software. As to activation, I'm wondering how much you actually lose by not having W10 activated (other than that reminder). So far I don't see much other than no beg to activate. I'm thinking on installing My 40 gig HD and run linux. The new builds look like they work more better now. If you don't activate it, you don't get update, etc. You could just update w7 to W10, if it can't it'll put back every back to W7. Modem? You use it for faxing or modem? All my desk top, laptops updated to W10 without a hitch. I manually updated to have triboot(Linux, W7, W10) I need W7 and IE to flash blade for remote starter kit. If you call MS, no warm body answers, just follow thru accordig to the prerecorded message, you better have good hearing and good typing speed or you'll spend quite a while to finish the process. Already done Tony. I like W7 more better, but I'm getting used to W10. I like Edge over IE for sure. I use Chrome as well so IE doesn't get used. I had an issue with email, but cured that by going with T-Bird. All in all W10 gets the job done Ya Ya! Have you turned off the spyware yet ? Don't have to turn it off if you don't let it install. Do custom install right from the start. |
W10 activation issue
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:05:31 -0700, Tony Hwang
wrote: Eagle wrote: FrozenNorth submitted this idea : On 2015-12-22 5:14 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:48:32 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: On 2015-12-22 4:39 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:07:31 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: BTW - what is the current build number? 10586.36 Thanks. 11082.1000 here, but I am on the insiders program. Is it free by just signing up? I'm guessing they are "preview" builds you can activate. Buggy or stable versions? Yep, free for the singup, they are beta builds, I have seen little odd things, but no show stoppers, I seem to be getting a new entire build every month or two. They have three rings, Fast, Slow and Release, Fast is a bit more bleeding edge, I am on that, but as I said, so far so good. Slow is after the fast testing has happened, and will not get every build, Release is obvious. Is it possible to move from Vista 64 bit to Win10 64 bit and get around that limitation? Saying I start with a clean install? I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. I have a Vista machine I had no problems with other than being slow, but that was from the processor being a old AMD. I have an older tower running XP with a Celeron processor that works still, but is slower than cooter brown. My storage tower runs a P-3 with very little memory and six 18 gig scsi drives. My W7 tower popped the cpu twice, so it sits waiting for a differet mobo. My real estate agent gave Me this Dell Inspiron 660, so I put it in line. :D You trying to set up a museum?, LOL! I think none of your stuff is good candidate for W10 upgrade. You need minimum 8 GB memory for any thing these days. My main laptop is quad i7, 16GB memory, SSD, and 7200rpm SATA drives plus Blue ray writer. 17" screen. All desktop, laptops has minimum 8GB memory. I have a small NAS for back up and storage, I don't use cloud anything. Acer Aspire 1 with 1gb and an Atom 270 works just fine on Win10Pro - surprisingly!!! |
W10 activation issue
On 12/22/2015 08:32 AM, Eagle wrote:
Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Can you burn an iso and load from that? |
W10 activation issue
On 12/22/2015 09:20 AM, Eagle wrote:
I tried that and it didn't work. I've been using W10 for well over two months now and the activate bug is still on My desktop. I am going to MS and get a key by phone. Can you connect with the W10? There should be a place in the dialog to switch activation keys that has a link to the MS website to purchase one. |
W10 activation issue
On 12/22/2015 11:28 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 12/22/2015 09:20 AM, Eagle wrote: I tried that and it didn't work. I've been using W10 for well over two months now and the activate bug is still on My desktop. I am going to MS and get a key by phone. Can you connect with the W10? There should be a place in the dialog to switch activation keys that has a link to the MS website to purchase one. I'm declaring this thread to be on topic for too long. No more on topic replies will be permitted. Does ultra low sulfur diesel damage engines? -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
W10 activation issue
rbowman wrote:
On 12/22/2015 08:32 AM, Eagle wrote: Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Can you burn an iso and load from that? If it is clean install of W10. Modem? Cable modem? of land line modem? Latter needs driver. |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs submitted this idea :
Eagle wrote: After serious thinking Terry Coombs wrote : Eagle wrote: I have 5 other outdated computers here including one I use as data storage using scci drives. It doesn't matter how outdated the comp is , you can still use it to DL the win7 driver you need and load it on a thumb drive . P4 and WIN2K/SP4 will do that ... And your point is? That getting the proper W7 wireless LAN driver for that comp and installing it was not a problem . It's all moot now since I have a registered copy of W10 now, and everything works, including the wireless wi-fi. I still have a HD with W7U so it will go into the tower with the new mobo and processor ASAP. |
W10 activation issue
After serious thinking Tony Hwang wrote :
Eagle wrote: Terry Coombs brought next idea : Eagle wrote: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . DUH? I have the driver on one of My 8 gig USB sticks, and it didn't do any good DUH. Duh, you have to point where your driver files are(your USB stick) make sure none are zipped or compressed form. Sounds like you are not really upto it. Just download mediacreationtool(64 bit or 32 bit version) depending your upgrade candidate. Run this utility, follow up step by step. If you are unable to do this, you need babysitting help holding your hands.. lol You need to change that 'tude feller. See you on the next topic. |
W10 activation issue
Terry Coombs submitted this idea :
Eagle wrote: Terry Coombs brought next idea : Eagle wrote: TomR formulated the question : In , Eagle typed: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? If you have a valid W7 software and license key, I the trick is to first just put the W7 on. Then do all of the automatic security updates and within a week or so, you will get a notice that says you can upgrade to W10. When you get that W10 upgrade notice, do the W10 upgrade from there. Do not go online and download a W10 software or upgrade directly since your W7 license key won't work for that. The built-in valid W7 license key will only work for the W10 upgrade notice that you get from Microsoft after you have had W7 installed for a while (a week or so). With your W7 installed, the problem with the modem is probably a driver problem. I found a free driver updater software online that checks for the correct drivers, but the free version only lets you update up to two drivers per day. I can't remember the name of the free program right now. Or, if you know the modem make and model you can probably go to a support website and download the correct driver. If you post a reply back here in response to the above, I'll give you the info for a very good newsgroup for computer questions like the ones you have. It is a news.annexcafe.com newsgroup called annexcafe.general.user2user . Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Unless , like me , you have another computer that you can use to download the correct driver and load it onto a USB stick . DUH . DUH? I have the driver on one of My 8 gig USB sticks, and it didn't do any good DUH. Then you DL'ed the wrong driver DUH . Hey , I did the same thing just the other day for the wife's laptop , took me 3 tries before I found one that worked . Still can't figure out what happened , she's been using that comp for months with no issues (other than overheating ...) . The problem is dealt with and is no longer a problem. Thanks for your input Terry. ^^ |
W10 activation issue
on 12/22/2015, rbowman supposed :
On 12/22/2015 08:32 AM, Eagle wrote: Only problem with your solution is that the internal modem won't load, so it's impossible to do all you wrote Tom. :/ Can you burn an iso and load from that? I did that when I DL'd W10 onto a USB stick, then to a DVD. The W7 number is all I had t the time, and it wouldn't work so a call to MS resulted in a # that DID work, and now no more activation bug. ^^ |
W10 activation issue
Tony Hwang has brought this to us :
Eagle wrote: FrozenNorth submitted this idea : On 2015-12-22 5:14 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 16:48:32 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: On 2015-12-22 4:39 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 15:07:31 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: BTW - what is the current build number? 10586.36 Thanks. 11082.1000 here, but I am on the insiders program. Is it free by just signing up? I'm guessing they are "preview" builds you can activate. Buggy or stable versions? Yep, free for the singup, they are beta builds, I have seen little odd things, but no show stoppers, I seem to be getting a new entire build every month or two. They have three rings, Fast, Slow and Release, Fast is a bit more bleeding edge, I am on that, but as I said, so far so good. Slow is after the fast testing has happened, and will not get every build, Release is obvious. Is it possible to move from Vista 64 bit to Win10 64 bit and get around that limitation? Saying I start with a clean install? I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. I have a Vista machine I had no problems with other than being slow, but that was from the processor being a old AMD. I have an older tower running XP with a Celeron processor that works still, but is slower than cooter brown. My storage tower runs a P-3 with very little memory and six 18 gig scsi drives. My W7 tower popped the cpu twice, so it sits waiting for a differet mobo. My real estate agent gave Me this Dell Inspiron 660, so I put it in line. :D You trying to set up a museum?, LOL! I think none of your stuff is good candidate for W10 upgrade. You need minimum 8 GB memory for any thing these days. My main laptop is quad i7, 16GB memory, SSD, and 7200rpm SATA drives plus Blue ray writer. 17" screen. All desktop, laptops has minimum 8GB memory. I have a small NAS for back up and storage, I don't use cloud anything. Museum? lol I have a few more in the garage that use the GIANT P-2 processor as well as a couple of laptops that use the external wireless wi-fi plug-in card. My P-1 tower runs W95 and the P-2 runs W98. ^^ The old and heavy CRT monitors are long gone. I saved them to play games like DESCENT, but I think it's time to clear out the old stuff and recycle. |
W10 activation issue
It happens that Tony Hwang formulated :
Terry Coombs wrote: Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . Maybe you have to open it up, blow all the dust out, reapply HS paste for the cpu. Old Toshiba is built very well. Block the fan on that old laptop and you have overheating fo sho. The plug-in wi-fi card was a pain if you left it pluged in and accidentally smash it. They are a bit hard to find now. |
W10 activation issue
On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 10:21:22 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote:
It happens that Tony Hwang formulated : Terry Coombs wrote: Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it.." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . Maybe you have to open it up, blow all the dust out, reapply HS paste for the cpu. Old Toshiba is built very well. Block the fan on that old laptop and you have overheating fo sho. The plug-in wi-fi card was a pain if you left it pluged in and accidentally smash it. They are a bit hard to find now. I put my laptop on one of those auxiliary fan pads. I got a big one for my 17" laptop and with the fan pads under my laptops, I can watch the temps drop when the pads are plugged in. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ [8~{} Uncle Cool Monster |
W10 activation issue
on 12/23/2015, Uncle Monster supposed :
On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 10:21:22 AM UTC-6, Eagle wrote: It happens that Tony Hwang formulated : Terry Coombs wrote: Oren wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:28:14 -0500, FrozenNorth wrote: I am not even sure you can upgrade directly from Vista to Win 10 for free, or at all, I did see with a quick google that you can download a Win 10 ISO file, burn to DVD and do a fresh install, but you would lose everything. My wife has some "sewing" software that may not be compatible. (her Vista machine) Everything else would work if I'm correct. I could check if it runs in "some" compatibility mode before I make the jump. Or leave it alone for now. All she does is turn the machine on and expects everything to work :) Sounds like my wife . "Honey , the flubbernixer won't work , fix it." She's using an older Tosh laptop , and it has overheating issues ... probably because she sits it in her lap blocking the fan intake . All XP , all the time . Maybe you have to open it up, blow all the dust out, reapply HS paste for the cpu. Old Toshiba is built very well. Block the fan on that old laptop and you have overheating fo sho. The plug-in wi-fi card was a pain if you left it pluged in and accidentally smash it. They are a bit hard to find now. I put my laptop on one of those auxiliary fan pads. I got a big one for my 17" laptop and with the fan pads under my laptops, I can watch the temps drop when the pads are plugged in. ヽ(€¢€¿€¢)ノ [8~{} Uncle Cool Monster I used one of them thangs to air out My sheets... 8-o Airborn Eagle |
W10 activation issue
On 12/23/2015 10:57 AM, Eagle wrote:
After serious thinking Tony Hwang wrote : Duh, you have to point where your driver files are(your USB stick) make sure none are zipped or compressed form. Sounds like you are not really upto it. Just download mediacreationtool(64 bit or 32 bit version) depending your upgrade candidate. Run this utility, follow up step by step. If you are unable to do this, you need babysitting help holding your hands.. lol You need to change that 'tude feller. See you on the next topic. Computer problems can most easily be solved by teenage boys. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
W10 activation issue
On 12/23/2015 11:00 AM, Eagle wrote:
Terry Coombs submitted this idea : Then you DL'ed the wrong driver DUH . Hey , I did the same thing just the other day for the wife's laptop , took me 3 tries before I found one that worked . Still can't figure out what happened , she's been using that comp for months with no issues (other than overheating ...) . The problem is dealt with and is no longer a problem. Thanks for your input Terry. ^^ This thread has been on topic for too long. Why, Godwin must be rolling over in his grave. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
W10 activation issue
After serious thinking Stormin Mormon wrote :
On 12/23/2015 11:00 AM, Eagle wrote: Terry Coombs submitted this idea : Then you DL'ed the wrong driver DUH . Hey , I did the same thing just the other day for the wife's laptop , took me 3 tries before I found one that worked . Still can't figure out what happened , she's been using that comp for months with no issues (other than overheating ...) . The problem is dealt with and is no longer a problem. Thanks for your input Terry. ^^ This thread has been on topic for too long. Why, Godwin must be rolling over in his grave. If he did, he rolled over onto hitler. |
W10 activation issue
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:22:59 -0800, "Eagle"
wrote: explained : On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:11:51 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: explained : On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:07:48 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? Must activate 7 before upgrading to 10 or you are out of luck Naaaaa....The call from MS took care of the problem, and now I have an activated issue of W10 pro 64 bit. ^^ The one I was working on today wouldn't even install 10 because 7 wasn't activated - at least Win10 upgrade says it isn't activated. I'll see when I get back to it - likely tomorrow. OK, it's tomorrow Clare... :D Didn't get to it yet. |
W10 activation issue
On 12/22/2015 03:51 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
[snip] If you don't activate it, you don't get update, etc. You could just update w7 to W10, if it can't it'll put back every back to W7. Modem? You use it for faxing or modem? All my desk top, laptops updated to W10 without a hitch. I manually updated to have triboot(Linux, W7, W10) I need W7 and IE to flash blade for remote starter kit. If you call MS, no warm body answers, just follow thru accordig to the prerecorded message, you better have good hearing and good typing speed or you'll spend quite a while to finish the process. I have 2 W10 installations. One is an update from W8.1, and shows as activated. The other is a clean installation that shows as not activated. Both have been there since summer. There seems to be NO difference in the updates available and installed on them. -- 2 days until the winter celebration (Friday December 25, 2015 12:00:00 AM for 1 day). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "An idea is an eye given by God for the seeing of God. Some of these eyes we cannot bear to look out of, we blind them as quickly as possible." [Russell Hoban, "Pilgermann"] |
W10 activation issue
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 16:06:59 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote: I have 2 W10 installations. One is an update from W8.1, and shows as activated. The other is a clean installation that shows as not activated. Both have been there since summer. There seems to be NO difference in the updates available and installed on them. Don't you need to activate in a certain number of days? |
W10 activation issue
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 15:31:50 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:22:59 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: explained : On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:11:51 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: explained : On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:07:48 -0800, "Eagle" wrote: wiped My HD and tried to load W7 ultimate, but the built-in modem will not load. I then loaded w10 and tried to use My W7 activation to activate W10, and was refused. W10 works, but get the activation reminder on the desktop. Any thoughts on working this issue? Must activate 7 before upgrading to 10 or you are out of luck Naaaaa....The call from MS took care of the problem, and now I have an activated issue of W10 pro 64 bit. ^^ The one I was working on today wouldn't even install 10 because 7 wasn't activated - at least Win10 upgrade says it isn't activated. I'll see when I get back to it - likely tomorrow. OK, it's tomorrow Clare... :D Didn't get to it yet. Got to it - something wrong with the win7 install - it does not see the key as valid - get 0xc004e003 error. Reinstalling win 7 pro - see what happens this time. It's an older computer - with an AMD processor - so I'm not going to waste much time on it. If it doesn't work this time I'll "bin" it. |
W10 activation issue
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