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I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:46:21 AM UTC-6, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Micky, it's called PP, Premature Postification and it can happen to any guy and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes you simply get too excited and can't hold it back. Don't feel alone, I've had it happen too. ¯\_—‰€¿—‰_/¯

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On 12/07/2015 03:46 AM, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Never drink and operate a computer.
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On 12/07/2015 01:46 AM, Micky wrote:
I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


They weren't. It was deja vu all over again.
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On 12/07/2015 03:02 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:46:21 AM UTC-6, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Micky, it's called PP, Premature Postification and it can happen to any guy and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes you simply get too excited and can't hold it back. Don't feel alone, I've had it happen too. ¯\_—‰€¿—‰_/¯

[8~{} Uncle PP Monster



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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:46:13 -0500, Micky
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I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


SHAME ON YOU lol

I have tried newer versions of Agent and never liked them. Too much
unneeded junk (bloat) and they changed the whole menu which really
confuses me. I just use this old version (2.0) and it works fine.


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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 03:46:13 -0500, Micky
wrote:

I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


SHAME ON YOU lol

I have tried newer versions of Agent and never liked them. Too much
unneeded junk (bloat) and they changed the whole menu which really
confuses me.


Indeed. Most importantly from my pov they changed what cntl-tab
does. I"m told v4.2 is like 1.93 in this regard.

I just use this old version (2.0) and it works fine.


What OS? You may need to know what follows when you get later than
XP.

I was happy using v1.93 and XP, until one day, starting the computer
or maybe unhibernating, everything was fouled up. Trying again and
again made it worse each time**.

A friend had upgraded his business and given me one of three Vista
Office computers that had become surplus, so I moved to it
(temporarily). At that point, I connected the XP drive as an
external, non-system drive and found files missing, including most
Windows files. I still don't know how this happened, but this time I
had 3 backups (instead of the usual none.) No evidence of a virus in
any backup, though it occurs to me now that I should do another scan
before trying to use an entire backup to go back to XP.

But my Agent files and my Eudora files and all my data files were
still there, in the orginal and all the backups.

Copied over all of 1.93 to Vista and everything was fine for 3 weeks.
Then all of a sudden, it didn't work. Not the copy I was using or any
of the other copies! I was forced to go to version 6, which I had
paid for years earlier, but like you, didn't like. (I used it for the
Firefox ng only.)

I asked on several ng's, googled like crazy but found no solution for
10 weeks, and then by chance found an old Forte-Agent thread (by penn
or maybe pennywise) that disclosed the problem.

The short answer is that the problem was Data Execution Prevention
(DEP), something which XPSP3 has too but never caused a problem.

In Win7, and probably 8 and 10, goto System Properties / Performance
/Settings / Data Execution Prevention (DEP) / Add....

In Vista, the path is a little different
System Properties / Advanced Tab / Peformance and from there it's the
same.

Clicking on the tab I see that DEP is already On for me, though I
never set it, and it must have been Off for the first 3 weeks. And
it has no exceptions.

I added exceptions for two copies of Agent.exe (which are only
exceptions for copies in their specified location), to NOT be covered
by DEP.
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 01:02:21 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:46:21 AM UTC-6, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never


Actually 8, I think.

happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Micky, it's called PP, Premature Postification and it can happen to any guy and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes you simply get too excited and can't hold it back. Don't feel alone, I've had it happen too. ¯\_???_/¯

[8~{} Uncle PP Monster


By chance, I had an appt. with the urologist today. He pretty much
said the same thing you did.
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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:07:03 -0500, Micky
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Indeed. Most importantly from my pov they changed what cntl-tab
does. I"m told v4.2 is like 1.93 in this regard.

I just use this old version (2.0) and it works fine.


What OS? You may need to know what follows when you get later than
XP.

Normally, I'm either running XP or Win98. I dont use (or want) anything
newer than XP.

I was happy using v1.93 and XP, until one day, starting the computer
or maybe unhibernating, everything was fouled up. Trying again and
again made it worse each time**.

A friend had upgraded his business and given me one of three Vista
Office computers that had become surplus, so I moved to it
(temporarily). At that point, I connected the XP drive as an
external, non-system drive and found files missing, including most
Windows files. I still don't know how this happened, but this time I
had 3 backups (instead of the usual none.) No evidence of a virus in
any backup, though it occurs to me now that I should do another scan
before trying to use an entire backup to go back to XP.

But my Agent files and my Eudora files and all my data files were
still there, in the orginal and all the backups.

Copied over all of 1.93 to Vista and everything was fine for 3 weeks.
Then all of a sudden, it didn't work. Not the copy I was using or any
of the other copies! I was forced to go to version 6, which I had
paid for years earlier, but like you, didn't like. (I used it for the
Firefox ng only.)


What do you expect, its VISTA. (Piece of crap).
Agent 1.93 and 2.0 are real similar. I dont know what differences there
are, except 1.93 was free. I paid for 2.0 years ago. If I want to use it
on another computer, I just copy the whole folder, and it's then
registered, and all my subscribed groups and filters are intact.

I have tried the demo versions of Agent 4.x (maybe 3.x if there was
one), and either 5.x or 6.x. All of them changed the menu. After using
this one for close to 20 years, I just find it too hard to change. I get
****ed because I keep hitting the wrong menu items. I'm happy with 2.0
and if it works, dont fix it....

Of all the operating systems, I still like Win98 the best too. I'm using
it right now. But there are no longer any web browsers that work
properly for 98, so I have to use XP for any serious web browsing, or at
least Win2000, but that too has limited browsers.

I pretty much only have 2000 installed (on my 98 machine) so I can use
my 500GB or 1TB USB drives to do backups. 98 wont run them.


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Copied over all of 1.93 to Vista and everything was fine for 3 weeks.
Then all of a sudden, it didn't work. Not the copy I was using or any
of the other copies! I was forced to go to version 6, which I had
paid for years earlier, but like you, didn't like. (I used it for the
Firefox ng only.)


What do you expect, its VISTA. (Piece of crap).


Maybe the three-week delay had something to do iwith Vista (though I
doubt it) but other than, I don't think it was any flaw in Vista. I
think you'll face the same problem in 7, 8, or 10, and like it or not,
I think we'll both have to upgrade from XP some day.

Agent 1.93 and 2.0 are real similar. I dont know what differences there
are, except 1.93 was free.


There was Free Agent and Agent. I paid for my copy so it had more
features.

I paid for 2.0 years ago. If I want to use it
on another computer, I just copy the whole folder, and it's then
registered, and all my subscribed groups and filters are intact.

I have tried the demo versions of Agent 4.x (maybe 3.x if there was
one), and either 5.x or 6.x. All of them changed the menu. After using
this one for close to 20 years, I just find it too hard to change. I get
****ed because I keep hitting the wrong menu items. I'm happy with 2.0
and if it works, dont fix it....

Of all the operating systems, I still like Win98 the best too. I'm using
it right now. But there are no longer any web browsers that work
properly for 98, so I have to use XP for any serious web browsing, or at
least Win2000, but that too has limited browsers.

I pretty much only have 2000 installed (on my 98 machine) so I can use
my 500GB or 1TB USB drives to do backups. 98 wont run them.


I had 98 and XP at the same time, but i don't miss 98 anymore .


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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:39:12 -0500, Micky
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What do you expect, its VISTA. (Piece of crap).


Maybe the three-week delay had something to do iwith Vista (though I
doubt it) but other than, I don't think it was any flaw in Vista. I
think you'll face the same problem in 7, 8, or 10, and like it or not,
I think we'll both have to upgrade from XP some day.

Do you compact it? I do that daily and it always works. I tend to save a
lot of old messages too, so it can get slow if I dont compact it.

Agent 1.93 and 2.0 are real similar. I dont know what differences there
are, except 1.93 was free.


There was Free Agent and Agent. I paid for my copy so it had more
features.

I paid for 2.0 years ago. If I want to use it
on another computer, I just copy the whole folder, and it's then
registered, and all my subscribed groups and filters are intact.

I have tried the demo versions of Agent 4.x (maybe 3.x if there was
one), and either 5.x or 6.x. All of them changed the menu. After using
this one for close to 20 years, I just find it too hard to change. I get
****ed because I keep hitting the wrong menu items. I'm happy with 2.0
and if it works, dont fix it....

Of all the operating systems, I still like Win98 the best too. I'm using
it right now. But there are no longer any web browsers that work
properly for 98, so I have to use XP for any serious web browsing, or at
least Win2000, but that too has limited browsers.

I pretty much only have 2000 installed (on my 98 machine) so I can use
my 500GB or 1TB USB drives to do backups. 98 wont run them.


I had 98 and XP at the same time, but i don't miss 98 anymore .


I'd be lost without 98. It always works flawlessly and never crashes. XP
tends to do strange things at times, like it will freeze up for awhile
and it gets slower after a few years. Plus it takes a long time to get
rid of all the crap in XP, after I reinstall it. If I was to upgrade to
anything, it would be Win7. Anything above that has no interest to me.
I'd like to try 7, before I actually use it, which is not a big deal,
since I have a spare computer that I use for storage, but I'd just
change the hard drive to test out 7, and I have spare drives, even if
they are a bit small.

By the way, it's usually the newer versions of Firefox that causes XP to
act weird.


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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:46:21 AM UTC-6, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never
happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Micky, it's called PP, Premature Postification and it can happen to any guy
and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes you simply get too excited and
can't hold it back. Don't feel alone, I've had it happen too. ¯\_—‰€¿—‰_/¯

[8~{} Uncle PP Monster


Uncle M....TMI :-?
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Micky formulated the question :
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 01:02:21 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:46:21 AM UTC-6, Micky wrote:
I just sent 7 posts by mistake, from the Draft mailbox. Never


Actually 8, I think.

happened in 20 years with the other version of Agent, which didn't
even have a draft mailbox, but this version is a problem.

I don't know if they were worthwhile posts or not. Either they
weren't done or I hadn't decided to send them, but they still might be
interesting. I don't remember. They're all stamped 3:32AM EST.


Micky, it's called PP, Premature Postification and it can happen to any guy
and it's nothing to be ashamed of. Sometimes you simply get too excited and
can't hold it back. Don't feel alone, I've had it happen too. ¯\_???_/¯

[8~{} Uncle PP Monster


By chance, I had an appt. with the urologist today. He pretty much
said the same thing you did.


Knock the poison off before going to action and no worries. ^^
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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:39:12 -0500, Micky
wrote:

What do you expect, its VISTA. (Piece of crap).


Maybe the three-week delay had something to do iwith Vista (though I
doubt it) but other than, I don't think it was any flaw in Vista. I
think you'll face the same problem in 7, 8, or 10, and like it or not,
I think we'll both have to upgrade from XP some day.

Do you compact it?


I let it compact automatically when it wants to. Lately I haven't
been deleting much so it doesn't want to.

But this certainly isn't why it didnt' work in Vista. That was DEP.

I do that daily


Seem way more often than necessary.

and it always works. I tend to save a
lot of old messages too, so it can get slow if I dont compact it.


Indeed Agent often runs slower than normal, but I don't compact and
later it's back to running fast again.

Agent 1.93 and 2.0 are real similar. I dont know what differences there
are, except 1.93 was free.


There was Free Agent and Agent. I paid for my copy so it had more
features.

I paid for 2.0 years ago. If I want to use it
on another computer, I just copy the whole folder, and it's then
registered, and all my subscribed groups and filters are intact.

I have tried the demo versions of Agent 4.x (maybe 3.x if there was
one), and either 5.x or 6.x. All of them changed the menu. After using
this one for close to 20 years, I just find it too hard to change. I get
****ed because I keep hitting the wrong menu items. I'm happy with 2.0
and if it works, dont fix it....

Of all the operating systems, I still like Win98 the best too. I'm using
it right now. But there are no longer any web browsers that work
properly for 98, so I have to use XP for any serious web browsing, or at
least Win2000, but that too has limited browsers.

I pretty much only have 2000 installed (on my 98 machine) so I can use
my 500GB or 1TB USB drives to do backups. 98 wont run them.


I had 98 and XP at the same time, but i don't miss 98 anymore .


I'd be lost without 98. It always works flawlessly and never crashes. XP


It used to crash for me more often then XP. I don't know why.

I don't think Vista has fully crashed yet. Something-explorer has
crashed but it restarts and, though that takes a while, things are
actually better then. But Vista has annoying things. Some say
the lack of drivers, but I'm using a standard old monitor, standard
old speakers, a usb hdd dock, and a wireless printer, so I don't think
drivers had any chance of being a problem.

MOst annoying at first, and even now, even that I know it will happen,
is long periods when the screen is black. On start up, shut down, and
when I say cntl-alt-delete it goes black for a while, twice. The
first time or two these things happen, it's like the OS has crashed.

7 is supposed to be better, but I don't know if I'm going back to XP
or on to 7.

tends to do strange things at times, like it will freeze up for awhile
and it gets slower after a few years. Plus it takes a long time to get
rid of all the crap in XP, after I reinstall it. If I was to upgrade to


I've never reinstalled an OS, except on a friend's laptop after she
was virus infected.

anything, it would be Win7. Anything above that has no interest to me.
I'd like to try 7, before I actually use it, which is not a big deal,
since I have a spare computer that I use for storage, but I'd just
change the hard drive to test out 7, and I have spare drives, even if
they are a bit small.



By the way, it's usually the newer versions of Firefox that causes XP to
act weird.

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