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micky July 22nd 15 10:23 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
Brother, all in one, says out of ink but there is ink
MFC-J625dw

Is it hypnotized?

I have a Brother copier, printer, scanner, fax, wifi, double sided
copying, but I can't do anything with it because first it wants ink and
it says it's out of ink for red and blue. Inkjet.

But when I look at the cartridges, one has it seems lots of ink and the
other seems to have enough.

Is this a known problem of some printers?

Fixable? I know there's no float like in a toilet. How does it
decide that it's out of ink? Some switch or rheostat I can bypass or
open so it always thinks it has ink?

This thing does everything except make French toast. I hate to throw it
away.

posting to alt.periphs.printers also. Is there another ng I've
missed?

Thanks.



Used to be printers came with a quick start manual and a manual. This
one has 9 pdf files, not even including certification of plastic.
Several about cell phones, including how to scan TO the cell phone.
(Heck, at most I'd want to scan FROM the cell phone.)

micky July 22nd 15 10:50 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 


I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


Shadow July 22nd 15 11:38 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:50:52 -0400, micky
wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


No idea if it applies to your model, but printer manufacturers
make their money out of replaceables, and have little chip counters in
the cartridges/machine. So when they decide it's time to pay again,
they say it's out of ink/toner.
I was fortunate enough to buy a Samsung ML 2010 B/W laser
printer with no such chip. On my 4rth refill, each refill costs under
10 dollars and lasts 3000-4000 pages. Later models have the chip.
It might be a faulty ink-level detector, or maybe the
cartridges need reseating. Try the brother support page.
Replacement "alternative" cartridges for your model are dirt
cheap on Amazon. If there is no hardware damage, that's what I'd do,
replace the cartridges.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Frank[_23_] July 22nd 15 01:26 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
On 7/22/2015 6:38 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:50:52 -0400, micky
wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


No idea if it applies to your model, but printer manufacturers
make their money out of replaceables, and have little chip counters in
the cartridges/machine. So when they decide it's time to pay again,
they say it's out of ink/toner.
I was fortunate enough to buy a Samsung ML 2010 B/W laser
printer with no such chip. On my 4rth refill, each refill costs under
10 dollars and lasts 3000-4000 pages. Later models have the chip.
It might be a faulty ink-level detector, or maybe the
cartridges need reseating. Try the brother support page.
Replacement "alternative" cartridges for your model are dirt
cheap on Amazon. If there is no hardware damage, that's what I'd do,
replace the cartridges.
[]'s


My HP Officejet printer will not accept re-inked cartridges.

Apparently not enough to just re-ink them but counter must be reset.

Old HP cartridges, you could re-ink yourself, then they made ports
inaccessible and now it is a chip to keep others from doing it.

Nothing new here. Years ago a chemist at Kodak told me that Kodak made
no money off their cameras and practically gave them away as the big
profit was in the color film they used.

Retired[_2_] July 22nd 15 02:06 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
On 7/22/15 5:23 AM, micky wrote:
Brother, all in one, says out of ink but there is ink
MFC-J625dw

Is it hypnotized?

I have a Brother copier, printer, scanner, fax, wifi, double sided
copying, but I can't do anything with it because first it wants ink and
it says it's out of ink for red and blue. Inkjet.

But when I look at the cartridges, one has it seems lots of ink and the
other seems to have enough.

Is this a known problem of some printers?

Fixable? I know there's no float like in a toilet. How does it
decide that it's out of ink? Some switch or rheostat I can bypass or
open so it always thinks it has ink?

This thing does everything except make French toast. I hate to throw it
away.

posting to alt.periphs.printers also. Is there another ng I've
missed?

Thanks.



Used to be printers came with a quick start manual and a manual. This
one has 9 pdf files, not even including certification of plastic.
Several about cell phones, including how to scan TO the cell phone.
(Heck, at most I'd want to scan FROM the cell phone.)



Found these with a web search. Give them a try and let us know outcome

http://www.ehow.com/how_6156089_bypa...r-printer.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjT0qsoRUdY

These are 2 best looking links; there are more

micky July 22nd 15 07:17 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:26:21 -0400, Frank "frank
wrote:

On 7/22/2015 6:38 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:50:52 -0400, micky
wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


No idea if it applies to your model, but printer manufacturers
make their money out of replaceables, and have little chip counters in
the cartridges/machine. So when they decide it's time to pay again,
they say it's out of ink/toner.
I was fortunate enough to buy a Samsung ML 2010 B/W laser
printer with no such chip. On my 4rth refill, each refill costs under
10 dollars and lasts 3000-4000 pages. Later models have the chip.
It might be a faulty ink-level detector, or maybe the
cartridges need reseating. Try the brother support page.
Replacement "alternative" cartridges for your model are dirt
cheap on Amazon. If there is no hardware damage, that's what I'd do,
replace the cartridges.
[]'s


My HP Officejet printer will not accept re-inked cartridges.

Apparently not enough to just re-ink them but counter must be reset.

Old HP cartridges, you could re-ink yourself, then they made ports
inaccessible and now it is a chip to keep others from doing it.

Nothing new here. Years ago a chemist at Kodak told me that Kodak made
no money off their cameras and practically gave them away as the big
profit was in the color film they used.


They also spent millions? of dollars working on a film cartridge for
35mm film that could not be opened and reclosed. So people wouuldn't
buy film in bulk. At least that's what I was told, but since other
makers made such cartridges, and sold them iirc at a reasonable price,
I'm not sure what good it did Kodak to prevent people from re-using
theirs.

Let's assume no one else made the cartridges at first. Why should they
since Kodak's could be reused. So Kodak is redesigning theirs, but
could't they foresee that someone would start selling reuseaable ones?


micky July 22nd 15 07:33 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 07:38:05 -0300, Shadow
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:50:52 -0400, micky
wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know


Retired, I looked at your webpage, and then I found another one with
pictures of the very same cartridge that this one has, LC75 or maybe
73, and instructions to cover the clear window, and I did that, and the
printer was not fooled. It gave a different warning, not about being
low on ink but telling me to do the initial crank twist to start the
cartridge working. So this method probably worked at one time, but
they defeated it later. Still, maybe the tape was too opaque and I
need something translucent. However, like I say below, I don't mind
buying new cartridges, I think the machine itself may be broken or it
wouldn't be complaining about what is in tthere.

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


No idea if it applies to your model, but printer manufacturers
make their money out of replaceables, and have little chip counters in
the cartridges/machine. So when they decide it's time to pay again,
they say it's out of ink/toner.
I was fortunate enough to buy a Samsung ML 2010 B/W laser
printer with no such chip. On my 4rth refill, each refill costs under
10 dollars and lasts 3000-4000 pages. Later models have the chip.
It might be a faulty ink-level detector, or maybe the
cartridges need reseating. Try the brother support page.
Replacement "alternative" cartridges for your model are dirt
cheap on Amazon. If there is no hardware damage, that's what I'd do,
replace the cartridges.


I certainly don't mind buying new cartridges. But since there is ink
in the two old ones that are listed as bad but otoh at least one of
those two is not full, so the prior owner used it for a while, I've been
thinking the hardware is fouled upI

I found this on the curb with a sign in big letters, FREE. This evening
when he's probably home, I'm going to go back there, a private house,
and try to find the previous owner and find out what's wrong with it.

It really does, or used to, do everything, things I didn't know about.
Like there is a setting to keep outsiders from hacking into your
wireless network and printing things on your printer. (There are things
you can't do when it's set like this, and things you can.)

What would they do with the stuff they printed? I guess this applies
more when one is in an office. But even though it's small and light
and seemingly meant for homes, it's got all these fancy capabilities.
Things I'd never use but I stil want them. Bluetooth I woudl use. I
don't remember if my currrent wi-fi printer has that.

Or I might give this thing to someone else who doesn't have wireless.


[]'s



Paul[_14_] July 22nd 15 08:18 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.

Paul

micky July 22nd 15 08:42 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.


I'll try that. The ink is translucent. The black vinyl tape I used
was totally opaque, which is what that guy recommended.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.

Paul



micky July 23rd 15 02:31 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:42:43 -0400, micky
wrote:

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.


I'll try that.


I tried it, but I forgot what you said and only tipped it 40 degrees
back. (Though i did it while it was starting.) Didnt' work.

I'll try 90^ next time. Which direction? Back?

But then I'll buy new cartridges.

The ink is translucent. The black vinyl tape I used
was totally opaque, which is what that guy recommended.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.

Paul


I also went to the house of the guy who put the printer out (with the
sign FREE on it). He was very friendly. He said it worked fine but
he had bought a new one. He said he put it out at 3PM Sunday, and I
didn't get it until 9AM Monday. It's a very busy street but has
plenty of parking right in front of the grass on which he put it. I"m
surprised it went more than 5 hours of daylight with no one else taking
it. I don't now why (assuming it works) I'm so happy to have
it. I already have a wifi all in one inkject. I guess it's because it
does even more than mine, even though they are things I'll never use,
and because it's free. I like free. Maybe I'll give it to someone .

Paul[_14_] July 23rd 15 03:46 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:42:43 -0400, micky
wrote:

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:
I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.

One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.

I'll try that.


I tried it, but I forgot what you said and only tipped it 40 degrees
back. (Though i did it while it was starting.) Didnt' work.

I'll try 90^ next time. Which direction? Back?


Look at the cartridge and where a person is supposed
to put the black tape. And figure out from that,
which direction to tip it, to get the ink to cover
the optical path.

The review I read, didn't say which direction or
coordinate system were being used. Ninety degrees
could mean just about anything.

Paul

micky July 23rd 15 04:44 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 22:46:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:42:43 -0400, micky
wrote:

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:
I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.

One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.
I'll try that.


I tried it, but I forgot what you said and only tipped it 40 degrees
back. (Though i did it while it was starting.) Didnt' work.

I'll try 90^ next time. Which direction? Back?


Look at the cartridge and where a person is supposed
to put the black tape. And figure out from that,
which direction to tip it, to get the ink to cover
the optical path.

The review I read, didn't say which direction or


He probably thought you and I should be smart enough to figure it out.

And indeed you did.

And for the record, I did too. When I tipped it back, that's because,
I'm 98% sure, that was the way the cartridge had to go te get the ink in
the window, as you just advised.

Frankly there is enough ink in one or both of them that 40 degrees would
have been enough, and I think 90^ is for when there's only a couple
days' worth of ink left, but I will do as I've been told.

I went back and found the guy who threw it away, and he was friendly, in
a good mood and had no reason to lie, so I'm wondering if the printer
sat around for a few weeks after he bought the new one, and maybe that
has something to do with the No Ink message. I know, I've had more
than one 19" TV, all CRT but both tube and transistor, that stopped
working when I let them sit too long.

He said he put it out at 3PM on Sunday and I didn't get it until 9AM on
Monday, so it sat there, on a busy street but with plenty of parking
right in front of the printer, for more than 5 hours of daylight.

And it's not a rich n'hood. The sign was slightly obscured by the
grass, but I easily r ecognized it as something free. so I'm wondering
if tne rest of them are getting too rich for their britches.

coordinate system were being used. Ninety degrees
could mean just about anything.

Paul



Paul[_14_] July 23rd 15 08:10 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
micky wrote:


He probably thought you and I should be smart enough to figure it out.

And indeed you did.

And for the record, I did too. When I tipped it back, that's because,
I'm 98% sure, that was the way the cartridge had to go te get the ink in
the window, as you just advised.

Frankly there is enough ink in one or both of them that 40 degrees would
have been enough, and I think 90^ is for when there's only a couple
days' worth of ink left, but I will do as I've been told.

I went back and found the guy who threw it away, and he was friendly, in
a good mood and had no reason to lie, so I'm wondering if the printer
sat around for a few weeks after he bought the new one, and maybe that
has something to do with the No Ink message. I know, I've had more
than one 19" TV, all CRT but both tube and transistor, that stopped
working when I let them sit too long.

He said he put it out at 3PM on Sunday and I didn't get it until 9AM on
Monday, so it sat there, on a busy street but with plenty of parking
right in front of the printer, for more than 5 hours of daylight.

And it's not a rich n'hood. The sign was slightly obscured by the
grass, but I easily r ecognized it as something free. so I'm wondering
if tne rest of them are getting too rich for their britches.


I had something similar happen. I have a VCR, had it for
years. It always sat plugged in. Never a bit of trouble with
it.

So one day, I figured, I'll just unplug it until I
need it again. About a year later, I had a tape I wanted
to try in it, plugged it in, inserted the tape, and
the tape pops back out. It won't go the final
step, to loading into the "ready-to-go" position.
I took the covers off it, tested the IR sensors with
my IR detector strip, used the multimeter, and it looked
like the sensors were all working.

I couldn't stand looking at the pile of stuff on the
counter, so one day, off to the junkyard it went.
What a waste. And all because I didn't keep it plugged
in.

Paul

micky July 23rd 15 08:45 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:10:20
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:


He probably thought you and I should be smart enough to figure it out.

And indeed you did.

And for the record, I did too. When I tipped it back, that's because,
I'm 98% sure, that was the way the cartridge had to go te get the ink in
the window, as you just advised.

Frankly there is enough ink in one or both of them that 40 degrees would
have been enough, and I think 90^ is for when there's only a couple
days' worth of ink left, but I will do as I've been told.

I went back and found the guy who threw it away, and he was friendly, in
a good mood and had no reason to lie, so I'm wondering if the printer
sat around for a few weeks after he bought the new one, and maybe that
has something to do with the No Ink message. I know, I've had more
than one 19" TV, all CRT but both tube and transistor, that stopped
working when I let them sit too long.

He said he put it out at 3PM on Sunday and I didn't get it until 9AM on
Monday, so it sat there, on a busy street but with plenty of parking
right in front of the printer, for more than 5 hours of daylight.

And it's not a rich n'hood. The sign was slightly obscured by the
grass, but I easily r ecognized it as something free. so I'm wondering
if tne rest of them are getting too rich for their britches.


I had something similar happen. I have a VCR, had it for
years. It always sat plugged in. Never a bit of trouble with
it.

So one day, I figured, I'll just unplug it until I
need it again. About a year later, I had a tape I wanted
to try in it, plugged it in, inserted the tape, and
the tape pops back out. It won't go the final
step, to loading into the "ready-to-go" position.
I took the covers off it, tested the IR sensors with
my IR detector strip, used the multimeter, and it looked
like the sensors were all working.

I couldn't stand looking at the pile of stuff on the
counter, so one day, off to the junkyard it went.
What a waste. And all because I didn't keep it plugged
in.


Yes, very much the same as what's happened to me. Gack, I have two
spare VCRs (that people got rid of) for when the one I use fails.
They're probably no good by now.

Paul



trader_4 July 23rd 15 02:16 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printerscanner copier fax say
 
I have a Brother color laser MFC and it also won't
print because it says it's out of toner. Except that it
has plenty of black toner, it's out of one of the colors,
which I rarely use and don't need right now.
Why that would prevent it from printing in BW, IDK, but
apparently these things are finicky.

Mark Lloyd[_12_] July 23rd 15 03:12 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scannercopier fax say
 
On 07/23/2015 08:16 AM, trader_4 wrote:
I have a Brother color laser MFC and it also won't
print because it says it's out of toner. Except that it
has plenty of black toner, it's out of one of the colors,
which I rarely use and don't need right now.
Why that would prevent it from printing in BW, IDK, but
apparently these things are finicky.


I have an older Brother HL-4070CDW that has a problem with color
printing, and now has no color toner cartridges just black. I just use
it for B/W printing. There's a setting in the driver.

Maybe yours has such a setting.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"You didn't hear it You didn't see it..." ...how absurd it all seems
without any proof" -- from "Tommy" by 'The Who'

micky July 26th 15 06:07 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18
-0400, Paul wrote:

micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.


I tried 90, or 85 degrees and I'm not sure, but it seemed like starting
up was delayed as long as I held it like that. I really shoudlnt say
that until I test again, but I don't feel like testing again.

inkcartridges.com had free shipping so I bought one color in OEM form,
for about 10 dollars, and if its warning message goes out, I'll buy the
other color in high capacitiy compatible ink for about 4.50. And
later I'll buy a set at a time. Another company gave no discount for
buying all 4 colors at once.

When I got the the printer, it had low capacity OEM cartridges in it,
They make high capaicity oem which I thought were cheaper in the long
run, so its almost as if he didnt use it much. I should check the
glass for fingerprints. I think my life is boring compared to the
detective shows I watch.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.

Paul



micky August 9th 15 01:57 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


Well, I didn't mind spending money on ink, if it would eventually work.
It was just that the two colors it said had no ink seemed to have ink in
the cartridge.

But I bought new cartridges and it's working now. The first thing it
did was tell me the third color was low.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.


First I bought OEM magenta, OEM When that got rid of the magenta
warning and I knew ink was really the problem, . I bought compatible
cyan.

The cyan cartridge didn't even have the window that showed the ink in
all the oem cartridges. The window isnt' there and the room in back
of the window is not there. It's like one house has a porch and the
other house has no porch at all.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.


So there must be some other way that it decides it's out of ink maybe a
chip after all.

Couldn't install much of the software, which took an hour to download,
including the OCR, unless the printer was plugged in. They don't want
everyone to have it.


Paul


Changed alt.periphs.printers to comp.periphs.printers and things should
work better now. I kept looking at the s at the end of periph and
thinking I had that wrong.

Tony Hwang August 9th 15 06:23 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is inkprinter scanner copier fax say
 
micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:

I found some webpages that remind me of what I used to know

If you know how Brother decides that a cartridge is necessary, or you
know aobut this particular model, MFC-J625dw that would be great, but
otherwise, I should read the webpages first and I apologize for
bothering you all.


Well, I didn't mind spending money on ink, if it would eventually work.
It was just that the two colors it said had no ink seemed to have ink in
the cartridge.

But I bought new cartridges and it's working now. The first thing it
did was tell me the third color was low.


One Amazon reviewer says to tip the printer
at 90 degrees for a few moments, so the ink
covers the LED sensor.


First I bought OEM magenta, OEM When that got rid of the magenta
warning and I knew ink was really the problem, . I bought compatible
cyan.

The cyan cartridge didn't even have the window that showed the ink in
all the oem cartridges. The window isnt' there and the room in back
of the window is not there. It's like one house has a porch and the
other house has no porch at all.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.


So there must be some other way that it decides it's out of ink maybe a
chip after all.

Couldn't install much of the software, which took an hour to download,
including the OCR, unless the printer was plugged in. They don't want
everyone to have it.


Paul


Changed alt.periphs.printers to comp.periphs.printers and things should
work better now. I kept looking at the s at the end of periph and
thinking I had that wrong.

Here back to school special on Brother MFC-J475DW for 59.00.
Brother is very finicky about inks. They do too many cleaning cycles
wasting ink. You can empty ink cartridges without printing a single
page. Power off when not in use.

J. P. Gilliver (John) August 9th 15 11:28 AM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In message , Tony Hwang
writes:
micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18 -0400, Paul
wrote:

[]
The cyan cartridge didn't even have the window that showed the ink in
all the oem cartridges. The window isnt' there and the room in back
of the window is not there. It's like one house has a porch and the
other house has no porch at all.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.


I don't see why: seems to me a perfectly sensible way of doing it, and
IMO _far_ preferable to the chip method. The chip method is often
inaccurate, and must add to the cost of the cartridges - as well as
giving the manufacturers an at least theoretical, in countries where
DMCA is valid, monopoly, so they can charge what they like.
[]
Here back to school special on Brother MFC-J475DW for 59.00.
Brother is very finicky about inks. They do too many cleaning cycles
wasting ink. You can empty ink cartridges without printing a single
page. Power off when not in use.


Good advice for virtually all makes, as they all do it. Though print
something occasionally - whether once a week or once a month or other
period different people have different ideas of (probably varies with
model, temperature, and humidity) to stop things drying up and thus
blocking.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I'd be a middle-class hero if I had the time, but I've got to go to Waitrose
first. - Tim Vine, RT 2014/2/15-21

micky August 9th 15 01:05 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In comp.periphs.printers, on Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:28:37 +0100, "J. P.
Gilliver (John)" wrote:

In message , Tony Hwang
writes:
micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:18:18 -0400, Paul
wrote:

[]
The cyan cartridge didn't even have the window that showed the ink in
all the oem cartridges. The window isnt' there and the room in back
of the window is not there. It's like one house has a porch and the
other house has no porch at all.

Hard to believe, in an era of chipped cartridges,
someone is still doing this. Using LEDs to sense ink.


I don't see why: seems to me a perfectly sensible way of doing it, and
IMO _far_ preferable to the chip method. The chip method is often
inaccurate, and must add to the cost of the cartridges - as well as
giving the manufacturers an at least theoretical, in countries where
DMCA is valid, monopoly, so they can charge what they like.
[]
Here back to school special on Brother MFC-J475DW for 59.00.
Brother is very finicky about inks. They do too many cleaning cycles
wasting ink. You can empty ink cartridges without printing a single
page. Power off when not in use.


The manual says it cleans the heads periodically even when it's off.

Would have to unplug it. Their idea is that someone doesn't have to
remember to print something every two months. He can go for a year
without printing anything and the heads won't be clogged, though the
cartridges may be empty!

Good advice for virtually all makes, as they all do it. Though print
something occasionally - whether once a week or once a month or other
period different people have different ideas of (probably varies with
model, temperature, and humidity) to stop things drying up and thus
blocking.



J. P. Gilliver (John) August 9th 15 05:22 PM

Brother all in one says out of ink but there is ink printer scanner copier fax say
 
In message , micky
writes:
In comp.periphs.printers, on Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:28:37 +0100, "J. P.
Gilliver (John)" wrote:

In message , Tony Hwang
writes:

[]
Here back to school special on Brother MFC-J475DW for 59.00.
Brother is very finicky about inks. They do too many cleaning cycles
wasting ink. You can empty ink cartridges without printing a single
page. Power off when not in use.


The manual says it cleans the heads periodically even when it's off.


Yes, a lot of them do. About once a day, I think, for many makes/models.

Would have to unplug it. Their idea is that someone doesn't have to
remember to print something every two months. He can go for a year
without printing anything and the heads won't be clogged, though the
cartridges may be empty!


Well, that therefore only postpones the clogging - if it empties the
cartridges with its cleaning, then after they are empty, the clogging
will still occur!

Good advice for virtually all makes, as they all do it. Though print
something occasionally - whether once a week or once a month or other
period different people have different ideas of (probably varies with
model, temperature, and humidity) to stop things drying up and thus
blocking.


(And by "something" we mean something including solid blocks of each
colour ink, not just some text, of course.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I think we'd all qualify for Heaven - even Richard Dawkins, if only to
severely p*ss him off. Imagine? An eternity of knowing you were wrong.
- Nick Odell, in UMRA 2011-5-22


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