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Screen Door Closer installation
I own a Wright Products V2000BL Easy Touch Pneumatic Storm/Screen Door Closer.
I've installed a NEW jamb bracket -- the front edge of the jamb bracket is 1/4" from the door -- then I attached the closer to the new jamb bracket with the connecting pin. To attach the other connecting pin to the EXISTING door bracket, I had to use a lot of strength to pull the closer out about 2 inches. When the door is closed, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 2 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. When the door is open 90 degrees, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 8 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. Should I move the door bracket nearer to the door jamb? How many inches should I move it? |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:07:29 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: I own a Wright Products V2000BL Easy Touch Pneumatic Storm/Screen Door Closer. I've installed a NEW jamb bracket -- the front edge of the jamb bracket is 1/4" from the door -- then I attached the closer to the new jamb bracket with the connecting pin. To attach the other connecting pin to the EXISTING door bracket, I had to use a lot of strength to pull the closer out about 2 inches. When the door is closed, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 2 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. When the door is open 90 degrees, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 8 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. Should I move the door bracket nearer to the door jamb? How many inches should I move it? RTFB! |
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The installation instructions doesn't provide this distance.
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gary wrote:
I own a Wright Products V2000BL Easy Touch Pneumatic Storm/Screen Door Closer. I've installed a NEW jamb bracket -- the front edge of the jamb bracket is 1/4" from the door -- then I attached the closer to the new jamb bracket with the connecting pin. To attach the other connecting pin to the EXISTING door bracket, I had to use a lot of strength to pull the closer out about 2 inches. When the door is closed, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 2 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. When the door is open 90 degrees, the connecting pin on the jamb bracket is 8 inches from the end of the piston cylinder. Should I move the door bracket nearer to the door jamb? How many inches should I move it? 1. Fasten the jamb bracket wherever they tell you it should be (1/4" seems really close to me, mine are 2-3" from the door). 2. Hook the tube to the jamb bracket 3. Put the door bracket on the tube 4. Close the door. 5. Ever so carefully, move the tube so that the door bracket is flush on the door and level (more or less) with the jamb bracket. 6. Screw it there. You don't do a whole lot of DIY, do you Gary? |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:07:05 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: The installation instructions doesn't provide this distance. Does it mention how to adjust the screw for the piston tension? |
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gary writes:
The installation instructions doesn't provide this distance. I don't think you are looking close enough. The ones I've installed left no doubt where the thing goes. If you really can't find it, call the manufacturer. -- Dan Espen |
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The instructions say to "attach door bracket to closer tube with long connecting pin. With door tightly closed, hold closer and door bracket against the door in a level position. Pencil outline of door bracket onto the door".
Does that mean the closer tube should abut the door jamb bracket or the closer tube can be inches away from the door jamb bracket? Or doesn't it matter? ---- The instructions say "turn adjusting screw counter-clockwise for faster or clockwise for slower". |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:40:29 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: The instructions say "turn adjusting screw counter-clockwise for faster or clockwise for slower". I'd open the screw all the way, mount the bracket to the jamb and adjust things from there. Post an exact link to your product. |
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The instructions say the open side of the (jamb) bracket should be 1/4" from the door.
I'd be a better DIY-er if the instructions provided the needed information. (Please see my other post (same topic). |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:46:41 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: The instructions say the open side of the (jamb) bracket should be 1/4" from the door. I'd be a better DIY-er if the instructions provided the needed information. If you mean the latch side, I'd say a 1/4" recess for the jamb reveal. (Please see my other post (same topic). I did. Now post a link for the product. (Please see my other post (same topic). |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:52:53 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: http://www.hamptonproducts.com/inclu...04000_REVA.pdf See FIG. A & B. Both mounts are like I was thinking. The 1/4 " that worries you is the distance from the reveal on both sides of the jamb. NO?! |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:46:41 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: The instructions say the open side of the (jamb) bracket should be 1/4" from the door. Well, then do that. That says exactly where it goes. I'd be a better DIY-er if the instructions provided the needed information. The jury is still out on that. (Please see my other post (same topic). Why another post? |
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Hi Oren,
I understood the 1/4" reveal. My "worry" is the distance between the "hold open" knob and the connecting pin in the jamb bracket. |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:12:14 -0700 (PDT), gary
wrote: Hi Oren, I understood the 1/4" reveal. My "worry" is the distance between the "hold open" knob and the connecting pin in the jamb bracket. I'm lost. Adjust the shaft tab on the piston shaft? Call the company. |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:03:49 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote: The instructions say the open side of the (jamb) bracket should be 1/4" from the door. Well, then do that. That says exactly where it goes. I'd be a better DIY-er if the instructions provided the needed information. The jury is still out on that. If error level Fig, A and Fig. level B Go to Fig. C. If error level D go to kill yourself Reboot |
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Very good. My question was how long should the unpainted portion of the piston rod be when the door is open.
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On 7/14/2015 8:18 PM, gary wrote:
Very good. My question was how long should the unpainted portion of the piston rod be when the door is open. My answer, it doesn't matter, a wind chain limits how far the door opens, I must have installed 500 or a 1,000 of these things. What I did was use really long big screws that would go through the door jamb and into the solid wood behind the jamb. I'd pin the closer and pull the piston out about an inch and move the little stop to hold it there. Then affix the door bracket to fit it. This will always keep some tension on the storm/screen door even after it's closed. The door seals and latch must allow the door to close and catch because someone isn't going to tug on it to make sure it's latched. If it's a storm door the air trapped between the storm door and solid front door changes how the storm door closes and that depends on if the front door is open or closed and if the storm door has a sliding window. There should be a wind chain that limits how far the door will open. I always made the wind chain "short" so the door wouldn't swing hard against it when the wind caught it (and it will sooner or later). The wind chain can be unhooked and a pin removed from the closure when the door has to be opened wide. It goes on and on, latches, hinges, closures, seals, door jambs, kick plates, cheap rent house or mansion, old folks or a family with 6 kids,... by the way those rods bend when the wind catches the door and there is no wind chain to catch it. |
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gary wrote:
Hi Oren, I understood the 1/4" reveal. My "worry" is the distance between the "hold open" knob and the connecting pin in the jamb bracket. There is nothing to worry about...that distance will be fixed and correct if you don't try to mount the tube to the door with the piston extended. IOW, see my detailed post and do what it says. |
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gary wrote:
Very good. My question was how long should the unpainted portion of the piston rod be when the door is open. So it was. I got lost in other details. The answer is, the piston rod should be fully extended but no one can tell you in inches, you'd have to measure it. Your problem is that you tried to place the new door bracket where the old one was. As you said, you had to "use a lot of strength" to pull out the piston to mount it in the old location. It took strength because your new door closer was shorter than the old one (they come in different lengths) and/or the brackets were configured differently. To fix things, remove the door bracket and reattach it with the piston fully closed. |
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I don't need a wind chain.
As I mentioned in my original post, the only thing I replaced was the jamb bracket. I didn't buy a NEW closer -- I'm using the OLD closer so the length of the closer didn't change so I screwed the door bracket into the original holes in the door. |
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On 7/15/2015 8:09 AM, gary wrote:
I don't need a wind chain. As I mentioned in my original post, the only thing I replaced was the jamb bracket. I didn't buy a NEW closer -- I'm using the OLD closer so the length of the closer didn't change so I screwed the door bracket into the original holes in the door. Why did you need a new jamb bracket? |
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The screws were pulling out of the jamb which cause the old jamb bracket to become bent, broken and loose.
I've repaired the jamb then installed a new jamb bracket whose holes are in different locations than the old bracket. |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 9:09:29 AM UTC-4, gary wrote:
I don't need a wind chain. As I mentioned in my original post, the only thing I replaced was the jamb bracket. I didn't buy a NEW closer -- I'm using the OLD closer so the length of the closer didn't change so I screwed the door bracket into the original holes in the door. The problem with referring to your "original post" is that I am seeing 3 separate threads related to this issue with responses from you and others in all three. The same thing happened in your "particle board screw" thread(s). Can you explain why your threads keep getting split into multiple threads. It makes it darn near impossible to figure out who said what when. |
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The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me).
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote:
The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). Huh? What's the difference between "original post" and "first entries"? Why would other people be writing the first entries in *your* threads? I still don't understand why your threads (and apparently only your threads) keep getting split into multiple threads. Since you are the common denominator, you seem to be the right person to ask. |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote:
The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. 3 are entitled " Screen Door Closer installation" 1 is entitled " Screen Door Closer" First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? |
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I would expect the first entry in each of the "Screen Door Closer Installation" threads would be written by me.
But they were written my other people. I can't explain that. |
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A word of advise: Don't install screen doors on submarines.
Just sayin'. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? It happens when you don't have the post in the thread to which the "" is responding. True for you? No idea. In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I no longer have will appear as a thread with "". |
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dadiOH wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. A total of 28 posts in the thread including this one. |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:33:38 -0500, Home is where I hang my hat
wrote: Here ya go, A youtube is worth a 1,000 words, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnEtgrwu8P0 I'll add a few words. He tried to use the same holes on the door. Had he put a torpedo level on the piston, mark that bracket, and mounted the piston level - there is no need to use old holes. Do directions say to have a pitch on the piston? |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:00:47 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? It happens when you don't have the post in the thread to which the "" is responding. True for you? No idea. In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I no longer have will appear as a thread with "". I am forced to use GG at work. Currently I see 34 posts across 4 threads related to the topic. None of them have Gary's OP as the first post, so I'm guessing that there are more posts that I can't see. Screen Door Closer installation 15 2:59 PM Screen Door Closer installation 11 7:30 AM Screen Door Closer installation 6 Jul 14 Screen Door Closer 2 Jul 14 About an hour ago, there was a 4th thread entitled Screen Door Closer installation with a single post in it from Col (Troll) but that post has disappeared from my list. |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:26:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:00:47 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? It happens when you don't have the post in the thread to which the "" is responding. True for you? No idea. In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I no longer have will appear as a thread with "". I am forced to use GG at work. Currently I see 34 posts across 4 threads related to the topic. None of them have Gary's OP as the first post, so I'm guessing that there are more posts that I can't see. Screen Door Closer installation 15 2:59 PM Screen Door Closer installation 11 7:30 AM Screen Door Closer installation 6 Jul 14 Screen Door Closer 2 Jul 14 About an hour ago, there was a 4th thread entitled Screen Door Closer installation with a single post in it from Col (Troll) but that post has disappeared from my list. I don't use OE (Agent), but do you think the issue with posts no longer appearing could have anything to do with "I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300?" As far as I can see there were only two (2) original threads: Screen Door Closer installation Screen Door Closer All activity has been to one or the other. |
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On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 4:07:03 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:26:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:00:47 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? It happens when you don't have the post in the thread to which the "" is responding. True for you? No idea. In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I no longer have will appear as a thread with "". I am forced to use GG at work. Currently I see 34 posts across 4 threads related to the topic. None of them have Gary's OP as the first post, so I'm guessing that there are more posts that I can't see. Screen Door Closer installation 15 2:59 PM Screen Door Closer installation 11 7:30 AM Screen Door Closer installation 6 Jul 14 Screen Door Closer 2 Jul 14 About an hour ago, there was a 4th thread entitled Screen Door Closer installation with a single post in it from Col (Troll) but that post has disappeared from my list. I don't use OE (Agent), but do you think the issue with posts no longer appearing could have anything to do with "I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300?" As far as I can see there were only two (2) original threads: Screen Door Closer installation Screen Door Closer All activity has been to one or the other. Just for fun, access the a.h.r ng via Google Groups (no, you don't have to register or even sign in to the evil Google) I believe you will see at least 4 threads related to this issue. Now, this is not something that happens with most threads, but a similar thing is happening in 2 of Gary's threads over in rec.woodworking. For example, there are 3 threads with the same title in the wRec: Particle Boad screws I'm not saying that Gary is the cause, only that he is the common factor in different threads in different ng's, with GG being the other common factor.. However, since GG doesn't do this to other threads, we are back to Gary's threads as the only ones displaying this issue. Gary: What reader/app are you using and what do you see - multiple threads or a single thread in a.h.r and the wRec? |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 4:07:03 PM UTC-4, Gordon Shumway wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:26:52 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:00:47 PM UTC-4, dadiOH wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:01:51 AM UTC-4, gary wrote: The first entries in my threads were written by other people (NOT by me). There are now 4 threads related to your issue. I see only one. First off, I don't know why the title of a ng thread would start with "". Second, none of the 4 threads appear to contain your original post, instead the first post in each thread appears to be a response to previous post. Do you (or anyone) have any idea why this is happening? It happens when you don't have the post in the thread to which the "" is responding. True for you? No idea. In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I no longer have will appear as a thread with "". I am forced to use GG at work. Currently I see 34 posts across 4 threads related to the topic. None of them have Gary's OP as the first post, so I'm guessing that there are more posts that I can't see. Screen Door Closer installation 15 2:59 PM Screen Door Closer installation 11 7:30 AM Screen Door Closer installation 6 Jul 14 Screen Door Closer 2 Jul 14 About an hour ago, there was a 4th thread entitled Screen Door Closer installation with a single post in it from Col (Troll) but that post has disappeared from my list. I don't use OE (Agent), but do you think the issue with posts no longer appearing could have anything to do with "I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300?" As far as I can see there were only two (2) original threads: Screen Door Closer installation Screen Door Closer All activity has been to one or the other. Just for fun, access the a.h.r ng via Google Groups (no, you don't have to register or even sign in to the evil Google) I believe you will see at least 4 threads related to this issue. Now, this is not something that happens with most threads, but a similar thing is happening in 2 of Gary's threads over in rec.woodworking. For example, there are 3 threads with the same title in the wRec: Particle Boad screws I'm not saying that Gary is the cause, only that he is the common factor in different threads in different ng's, with GG being the other common factor. However, since GG doesn't do this to other threads, we are back to Gary's threads as the only ones displaying this issue. Holy crap! What a jumbled mess GG is. It is not easy to follow at first glance. However, in Agent, there are two threads initially on this topic with his name on both of them and two threads with his name in rec.woodworking. My guess would be he is the culprit for the confusion. |
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Gordon Shumway wrote:
In my case, using OE, I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300, then compact all folders (to tidy up the dbx files). After doing that, any replies to a message I nolonger have will appear as a thread with "". I don't use OE (Agent), but do you think the issue with posts no longer appearing could have anything to do with "I occasionally reset each folder (to dump old messages), then reload the newest 300?" Yes, of course, that's what I said. |
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