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Jerry Pennwalt March 10th 15 06:26 PM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
If you are considering buying a new water heater, you might want to do it soon
because updates to the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act (NAECA) that
will go into effect April 16 will impact your choices and costs in the future.

http://www.omaha.com/money/new-water...19941a401.html
- or - http://preview.tinyurl.com/khkbtlw

http://www.kvue.com/story/money/cons...pril/24390441/

I just bought a new natural gas water heater and will be using a 3/4" flex
connect kit.

Which one of the 2 flex kits below is preferred?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_185259-135-9008084046_0__

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Watts-Lea...CK18/202255002

The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided stainless-steel sheath.
The one at Lowes is corrugated stainless-steel (no rubber core).



trader_4 March 10th 15 09:40 PM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 2:26:44 PM UTC-4, Jerry Pennwalt wrote:
If you are considering buying a new water heater, you might want to do it soon
because updates to the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act (NAECA) that
will go into effect April 16 will impact your choices and costs in the future.

http://www.omaha.com/money/new-water...19941a401.html
- or - http://preview.tinyurl.com/khkbtlw

http://www.kvue.com/story/money/cons...pril/24390441/


Well, that's just lovely. The govt screwing the folks again. I especially
like the part about an electric WH bigger than 55 being mandated to be of
the heat pump variety. Faced with that, most people are probably going
to buy two 40 gallon non-heat pump ones. There goes that bright idea.

And then they say the new higher priced WH's will save a whopping $1 a
month. What's the pay back time on that?



I just bought a new natural gas water heater and will be using a 3/4" flex
connect kit.

Which one of the 2 flex kits below is preferred?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_185259-135-9008084046_0__

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Watts-Lea...CK18/202255002

The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided stainless-steel sheath.
The one at Lowes is corrugated stainless-steel (no rubber core).


Looks like it comes down to whether you want dielectric fittings or
not. Otherwise, I don't see much difference. I've never seen dielectrics
on gas lines before. My WHs have always been plumbed in without using
anything special. Black pipe for the gas. No problems either.

[email protected] March 11th 15 02:34 AM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:


The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided stainless-steel sheath.
The one at Lowes is corrugated stainless-steel (no rubber core).


Looks like it comes down to whether you want dielectric fittings or
not. Otherwise, I don't see much difference. I've never seen dielectrics
on gas lines before. My WHs have always been plumbed in without using
anything special. Black pipe for the gas. No problems either.


Same here. I have always run the water pipes directly to the water
heater. When I was working for a plumber in the 80's he onlty used
those flex pipes if the customer wanted them, That may have been twice,
in 10 years, because most people dont know anything. They just working
plumbing. Unless for some odd reason the pipes or tank are meant to
move, there is no reason to use those flex pipes. We did use dielectric
unions on copper because of the steel tank.


NotMe March 12th 15 12:20 AM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 

"Jerry Pennwalt" wrote in message
...
If you are considering buying a new water heater, you might want to do it
soon
because updates to the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act (NAECA)
that
will go into effect April 16 will impact your choices and costs in the
future.

http://www.omaha.com/money/new-water...19941a401.html
- or - http://preview.tinyurl.com/khkbtlw

http://www.kvue.com/story/money/cons...pril/24390441/

I just bought a new natural gas water heater and will be using a 3/4" flex
connect kit.

Which one of the 2 flex kits below is preferred?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_185259-135-9008084046_0__

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Watts-Lea...CK18/202255002

The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided stainless-steel
sheath.
The one at Lowes is corrugated stainless-steel (no rubber core).


Also if you buy an energy star rated HWH you can get up to a $300 rebate.



[email protected] March 12th 15 03:01 AM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 1:26:44 PM UTC-5, Jerry Pennwalt wrote:
If you are considering buying a new water heater, you might want to do it soon
because updates to the National Appliance Energy Conservation Act (NAECA) that
will go into effect April 16 will impact your choices and costs in the future.

http://www.omaha.com/money/new-water...19941a401.html
- or - http://preview.tinyurl.com/khkbtlw

http://www.kvue.com/story/money/cons...pril/24390441/

I just bought a new natural gas water heater and will be using a 3/4" flex
connect kit.

Which one of the 2 flex kits below is preferred?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_185259-135-9008084046_0__

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Watts-Lea...CK18/202255002

The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided stainless-steel sheath.
The one at Lowes is corrugated stainless-steel (no rubber core).


They got me already. I bought & installed a new Propane unit last month, 4 days after it was manufactured. It looks 25-30% fatter than the replaced unit, and I had to use flex fittings to match the old height & depth.


Senator Pocketstuffer March 12th 15 09:08 AM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
On 03/10/2015 02:40 PM, trader_4 wrote:
Well, that's just lovely. The govt screwing the folks again. I especially
like the part about an electric WH bigger than 55 being mandated to be of
the heat pump variety. Faced with that, most people are probably going
to buy two 40 gallon non-heat pump ones. There goes that bright idea.


Looks like we need a law to prevent the installation of more than 1 water heater per home.

Bob F March 15th 15 01:48 AM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
Jerry Pennwalt wrote:
If you are considering buying a new water heater, you might want to
do it soon because updates to the National Appliance Energy
Conservation Act (NAECA) that will go into effect April 16 will
impact your choices and costs in the future.

http://www.omaha.com/money/new-water...19941a401.html
- or - http://preview.tinyurl.com/khkbtlw

http://www.kvue.com/story/money/cons...pril/24390441/

I just bought a new natural gas water heater and will be using a 3/4"
flex connect kit.

Which one of the 2 flex kits below is preferred?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_185259-135-9008084046_0__

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Watts-Lea...CK18/202255002

The HD kit is basically a rubber hose inside a braided
stainless-steel sheath. The one at Lowes is corrugated
stainless-steel (no rubber core).


I used the robber hose/stainless braid version on my rental house heater.
Neither hose lasted more than a few years.



bob haller March 15th 15 12:06 PM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 



They got me already. I bought & installed a new Propane unit last month, 4 days after it was manufactured. It looks 25-30% fatter than the replaced unit, and I had to use flex fittings to match the old height & depth.



the bigger diameter allows space for more insulation, saving you energy

Stormin Mormon[_10_] March 15th 15 01:43 PM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
On 3/14/2015 9:48 PM, Bob F wrote:
I used the robber hose/stainless braid version on my rental house heater.
Neither hose lasted more than a few years.



Your robber hose stole it?

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danny burstein March 15th 15 01:51 PM

New Water Heater Regulations - April 16
 
In Stormin Mormon writes:

On 3/14/2015 9:48 PM, Bob F wrote:
I used the robber hose/stainless braid version on my rental house heater.
Neither hose lasted more than a few years.



Your robber hose stole it?


If I were him I'd check his nose...

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