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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
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2.49 yesterday in NTX


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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is currently $2.609.


$2.80 thru $3.25 throughout most of central CT for Reg.

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Per IGot2P:
Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country.


GasBuddy.com

Also there's a "GasBuddy" Android app.. Dunno about iPod....

If you log into the Android app and then click the map icon you can zoom
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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa
the price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is
currently $2.609.


$2.57 in East TN.
Diesel is $3.09.
Kerosene is still $4.99.




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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is currently $2.609.

#1.12 per liter canadian here in Waterloo Ontario ($0.89 dollars)
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I suspect that the recent decision by OPEC not to reduce oil production is to bring pressure to bear on Russia to get them out of Ukraine.

Russia is heavily dependant on oil exports to support it's economy. It needs that money to pay the wages of public servants, to pay the monthly pensions of it's large population of senior citizens and to import food because of an agricultural industry that's on life support. Without that income, there could be civil unrest in Russia, and that could break Putin's grip on power as people there demand a change in government policy. With the recent drop in oil prices, Russia is even more dependant on maintaining it's level of production to keep the money from oil exports coming in, and as long as Russia won't reduce it's oil production, OPEC is not likely to reduce theirs either.

I suspect that the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) convinced Saudi Arabia to maintain it's current levels of oil production to bring pressure to bear on Russia to get out of Ukraine.

It's just a guess, but it's my best guess.

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On 11/28/2014 10:50 PM, nestork wrote:
People need to understand that the US government and the Saudis are
trying to lower the price of oil to weaken the Russian economy as well
as reduce the income of ISIS.

Russia is a poor country and is heavily dependant on it's export of both
natural gas and crude oil to maintain the pathetic standard of living of
it's population. The drop in oil prices from near $100 a few weeks ago
to under $66 today will hit the Russian economy very hard. The
objective here is to force Russian troops and military advisers out of
Ukraine.

Also ISIS receives most of it's income from the oil wells and refineries
it has captured in Iraq, and lowering the price of oil reduces ISIS's
ability to continue paying it's soldiers.

OPEC voted to maintain their current production of oil yesterday because
it is in Saudi Arabia's interest to choke off the money supply to ISIS,
and America wants to choke off the money flow to Russia to convince them
that their interference in the fledgling Ukraine democracy won't go
unpunished.

What we have here is the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) applying
pressure on Russia to get out of Ukraine and attempting to starve ISIS
of it's ability to buy weapons and fighters to use them.

There are also reports that OPEC is trying to shut down US shale gas
production. Probably bit from column A, bit from column B.

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What we have here is the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) applying
pressure on Russia to get out of Ukraine and attempting to starve ISIS
of it's ability to buy weapons and fighters to use them.


At least from the Saudi's standpoint, they also want to keep prices low
enough, long enough to shut down the oil shale fields in the US. THAT is
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On Friday, November 28, 2014 9:25:19 PM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per IGot2P:
Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country.


GasBuddy.com

Also there's a "GasBuddy" Android app.. Dunno about iPod....

If you log into the Android app and then click the map icon you can zoom
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I have GasGuru on my Android. Same idea. Works really well here in
NJ, haven't seen it wrong yet. I can easily spot the lowest price fuel
in the area.

Right now:

reg $2.499
prem $2.759
diesel $3.089


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On 11/28/2014 7:54 PM, IGot2P wrote:
Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is currently $2.609.


Used to be a web site " www.gasbuddy.com " might be
it, people would post fuel prices.

PRNY, I've seen as low as 3.04 and 3.01, some
stores running about 3.25 for 87 with ethanol.

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On 11/29/2014 12:05 AM, FrozenNorth wrote:
There are also reports that OPEC is trying to shut down US shale gas
production. Probably bit from column A, bit from column B.


Column C is the Republicans elected. Might
be able to approve the pipe line that O
has vetoed. That might supply the TX
refineries with Canadian oil.

So we can give money to our enemies in
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There are also reports that OPEC is trying to shut down US shale gas
production.
And, it would seem to me, to wreck the economics of building the XL pipeline from Alberta to Texas.

Domestic shale oil and shale gas production in the USA, increasing production of tar sand oil in Canada, the XL pipeline to move Canadian tar sand oil to Texas, Russian and ISIS dependance on oil sales and production from new oil fields discovered off the coast of Brazil are all undoubtedly factors that influenced OPEC's decision to maintain oil production at current levels.

OPEC realizes that the more it can lower the price of oil, the more it can put the brakes on development of new oil supplies around the world.

It seems that our ability to both find oil and extract it from the ground is getting better and better all the time, and that's a problem for Saudi Arabia. They wants to remain the world's primary source of oil, but that's hard to do as higher oil prices make shale oil, tar sand oil, offshore oil and other souces of oil economic to develop and produce.

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On 11/28/2014 10:50 PM, nestork wrote:
People need to understand that the US government and the Saudis are
trying to lower the price of oil to weaken the Russian economy as well
as reduce the income of ISIS.

Russia is a poor country and is heavily dependant on it's export of both
natural gas and crude oil to maintain the pathetic standard of living of
it's population. The drop in oil prices from near $100 a few weeks ago
to under $66 today will hit the Russian economy very hard. The
objective here is to force Russian troops and military advisers out of
Ukraine.

Also ISIS receives most of it's income from the oil wells and refineries
it has captured in Iraq, and lowering the price of oil reduces ISIS's
ability to continue paying it's soldiers.

OPEC voted to maintain their current production of oil yesterday because
it is in Saudi Arabia's interest to choke off the money supply to ISIS,
and America wants to choke off the money flow to Russia to convince them
that their interference in the fledgling Ukraine democracy won't go
unpunished.

What we have here is the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) applying
pressure on Russia to get out of Ukraine and attempting to starve ISIS
of it's ability to buy weapons and fighters to use them.




Spiegel on line also mentioned that it hurts Iran which depends heavily
on oil revenues. Folks like Russians like to push that it suppresses US
output but those you and I mentioned are feeling much more hurt. Saudi
princes are sitting on about $3/4 trillion and willing to sacrifice
profit to deter Russia, Assad, ISIS and Iran to help keep the peace there.
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On 11/28/2014 10:50 PM, nestork wrote:
People need to understand that the US government and the Saudis are
trying to lower the price of oil to weaken the Russian economy as well
as reduce the income of ISIS.

Russia is a poor country and is heavily dependant on it's export of both
natural gas and crude oil to maintain the pathetic standard of living of
it's population. The drop in oil prices from near $100 a few weeks ago
to under $66 today will hit the Russian economy very hard. The
objective here is to force Russian troops and military advisers out of
Ukraine.

Also ISIS receives most of it's income from the oil wells and refineries
it has captured in Iraq, and lowering the price of oil reduces ISIS's
ability to continue paying it's soldiers.

OPEC voted to maintain their current production of oil yesterday because
it is in Saudi Arabia's interest to choke off the money supply to ISIS,
and America wants to choke off the money flow to Russia to convince them
that their interference in the fledgling Ukraine democracy won't go
unpunished.

What we have here is the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) applying
pressure on Russia to get out of Ukraine and attempting to starve ISIS
of it's ability to buy weapons and fighters to use them.




Spiegel on line also mentioned that it hurts Iran which depends heavily
on oil revenues. Folks like Russians like to push that it suppresses US
output but those you and I mentioned are feeling much more hurt. Saudi
princes are sitting on about $3/4 trillion and willing to sacrifice
profit to deter Russia, Assad, ISIS and Iran to help keep the peace there.


When has Saudi Arabia given a rat's ass about Russia and what they were
up to before? As for Iran, Iran has creating trouble since 1979. Kind
of odd that all of a sudden Saudi Arabia is going to tank the price of
world oil to screw Iran and screw themselves more in the process.
As for Assad and what's going on there, the
price of oil hardly matters. Oil is a very crude, imprecise weapon
to deal with any of those issues. And if SA is so worried about terrorism,
it would seem it would be a lot easier to stop those in it's own country
from preaching similar extremist Islam and funding it.



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There are also reports that OPEC is trying to shut down US shale gas
production.


And, it would seem to me, to wreck the economics of building the XL
pipeline from Alberta to Texas.

Correct.

Domestic shale oil and shale gas production in the USA, increasing
production of tar sand oil in Canada, the XL pipeline to move Canadian
tar sand oil to Texas, Russian and ISIS dependance on oil sales and
production from new oil fields discovered off the coast of Brazil are
all undoubtedly factors that influenced OPEC's decision to maintain oil
production at current levels.


Unlock the oil taps in the USA and this **** will stop.

OPEC realizes that the more it can lower the price of oil, the more it
can put the brakes on development of new oil supplies around the world.


Unlock the oil taps in the USA and this **** will stop.

We have energy to support Europe, break Mexico (?)
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Saudi
princes are sitting on about $3/4 trillion and willing to sacrifice
profit to deter Russia, Assad, ISIS and Iran to help keep the peace there.


They like gold faucets and toilet seats

The UAE would be ticked off when the place explodes in turmoil. (no
pun intended)

Egypt? Suez Canal, "Under international treaty, it may be used "in
time of war as in time of peace, by every vessel of commerce or of
war, without distinction of flag." (WIKI) ISIS takes it?

Kuwait?
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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
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On 11/29/2014 3:14 PM, Oren wrote:
Unlock the oil taps in the USA and this **** will stop.

OPEC realizes that the more it can lower the price of oil, the more it
can put the brakes on development of new oil supplies around the world.


Unlock the oil taps in the USA and this **** will stop.

We have energy to support Europe, break Mexico (?)


There is a certain wisdom in releasing the
US producers to do what they do so nicely.
I typed "do so well" and changed it.

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nestork wrote:

OPEC realizes that the more it can lower the price of oil, the more it
can put the brakes on development of new oil supplies around the world.


Suadis also learned their lesson the last time prices tanked. They cut
production to try and keep price up and lost market share to those who
didn't and ended up losing twice (once on lower prices and once on lower
market share). It took 'em awhile to get their share back and they don't
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On 11/28/2014 7:54 PM, IGot2P wrote:
Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is currently $2.609.

I used to use the MSN for local gas prices on the PC. A great site,
however, they've not eliminated it. I've used Gas Buddy on the Android
phone, but don't really like the way it works. But, Gas Buddy on the PC
that something that's almost as good as the MSN thing at:
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
You can zoom in really close and it give individual station prices. You
can also put in your zip code and get stations really close to home ...
save the link and you can always easily return. Yesterday, I took my son
the the Greenville-Spartanville airport and saw gas as low as 2.45 in SC.

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On 11/29/2014 3:10 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, November 29, 2014 2:26:06 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
On 11/28/2014 10:50 PM, nestork wrote:
People need to understand that the US government and the Saudis are
trying to lower the price of oil to weaken the Russian economy as well
as reduce the income of ISIS.

Russia is a poor country and is heavily dependant on it's export of both
natural gas and crude oil to maintain the pathetic standard of living of
it's population. The drop in oil prices from near $100 a few weeks ago
to under $66 today will hit the Russian economy very hard. The
objective here is to force Russian troops and military advisers out of
Ukraine.

Also ISIS receives most of it's income from the oil wells and refineries
it has captured in Iraq, and lowering the price of oil reduces ISIS's
ability to continue paying it's soldiers.

OPEC voted to maintain their current production of oil yesterday because
it is in Saudi Arabia's interest to choke off the money supply to ISIS,
and America wants to choke off the money flow to Russia to convince them
that their interference in the fledgling Ukraine democracy won't go
unpunished.

What we have here is the West (the USA, Britain and the EU) applying
pressure on Russia to get out of Ukraine and attempting to starve ISIS
of it's ability to buy weapons and fighters to use them.




Spiegel on line also mentioned that it hurts Iran which depends heavily
on oil revenues. Folks like Russians like to push that it suppresses US
output but those you and I mentioned are feeling much more hurt. Saudi
princes are sitting on about $3/4 trillion and willing to sacrifice
profit to deter Russia, Assad, ISIS and Iran to help keep the peace there.


When has Saudi Arabia given a rat's ass about Russia and what they were
up to before? As for Iran, Iran has creating trouble since 1979. Kind
of odd that all of a sudden Saudi Arabia is going to tank the price of
world oil to screw Iran and screw themselves more in the process.
As for Assad and what's going on there, the
price of oil hardly matters. Oil is a very crude, imprecise weapon
to deal with any of those issues. And if SA is so worried about terrorism,
it would seem it would be a lot easier to stop those in it's own country
from preaching similar extremist Islam and funding it.


Russia is helping Assad so damaging their economy would cut funding him.
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On 11/29/2014 3:27 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:26:01 -0500, Frank
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Saudi
princes are sitting on about $3/4 trillion and willing to sacrifice
profit to deter Russia, Assad, ISIS and Iran to help keep the peace there.


They like gold faucets and toilet seats

The UAE would be ticked off when the place explodes in turmoil. (no
pun intended)




Right. Friend spent a lot of time there. Saudis are a bunch of spoiled
brats due to their wealth.
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Just curious what gasoline prices are around the country. In SE Iowa the
price for the most common grade (ethanol, 10% I think) is currently $2.609


www.gasbuddy.com



I'm in east Texas. Kroger gas is $2.479 now.


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