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how to disassemble needle nose pliers
How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Have a pair that is the worse case of frozen I've seen. Got it unfrozen using various commercial solvents for this, but still impossible to operate by hand. Takes an adjustable wrench on each handle to open and close (or an arbor press to close.
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how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:06:13 AM UTC-5, Frank Thompson wrote:
How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? You don't! You're done! (I would add MOST people refer to "long-nose pliers" as NNP...because it's cute~not because it's accurate) http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...a96764b9.jp g http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...b6185fe9.jp g |
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On 4/10/2014 6:06 AM, Frank Thompson wrote:
How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Have a pair that is the worse case of frozen I've seen. Got it unfrozen using various commercial solvents for this, but still impossible to operate by hand. Takes an adjustable wrench on each handle to open and close (or an arbor press to close. The ones I've owned were pressed together, and cannot be dissembled. That said, some times I have been able to spray the center pivot with WD-40 or Castle Thrust, and exercise the joint, spraying every couple opening and closing. Be generous with the spray, and some times the rust will lift out. I'd seriously consider replace them, rather than go through all that work. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
Frank Thompson wrote:
How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Have a pair that is the worse case of frozen I've seen. Got it unfrozen using various commercial solvents for this, but still impossible to operate by hand. Takes an adjustable wrench on each handle to open and close (or an arbor press to close. You might try this, http://www.harborfreight.com/1-quart...ver-96433.html I have never used it but a friend did and claims it works. Just a thought if you have a Harbor Freight near by. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 03:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Frank Thompson
wrote: How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Have a pair that is the worse case of frozen I've seen. Got it unfrozen using various commercial solvents for this, but still impossible to operate by hand. Takes an adjustable wrench on each handle to open and close (or an arbor press to close. I have had good results with PB Blaster penetrant. May take several applications but usually 2 or 3 times works for me. Getting old and forgetting to put things up causes rusted joints to appear. Be sure to apply to jaw, handle and sides. -- Mr.E |
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I expect that moisture has gotten into the joint in the pliers and caused the two sides to rust. I've come across this problem before with the hubs of snow blower wheels rusting onto the drive axle of the snow blower. What I find works well is to simpy apply muriatic acid (which is 26 or so percent hydrochloric acid) to the joint between the wheel hub and the drive axle with an eye dropper (which you can buy for $2 from any pharmacy). Capillary action then draws the acid into that joint where it dissolves the rust. Once the rust is fully dissolved, the wheel starts turning on the drive axle. I find that muriatic acid dissolves the rust far more aggressively than it does the steel. In fact, it appears to do nothing more than clean the steel, but it definitely dissolves the rust. Any masonary contractor will have muriatic acid if you don't feel the need to buy a gallon or quart for yourself. If you give then a $5 bill for their effort, I'm sure they'd give you enough to do the job. But, bring your own plastic container. And, of course, muriatic acid is about the strongest acid that's readily available to consumers, so be careful with it. |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:47:32 -0600, JAS
wrote: You might try this, http://www.harborfreight.com/1-quart...ver-96433.html I have never used it but a friend did and claims it works. Just a thought if you have a Harbor Freight near by. The most recent review on the link, the product was used on frozen pliers :) 5 reviews with 5 stars. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On 4/10/2014 11:38 AM, nestork wrote:
Frank: I expect that moisture has gotten into the joint in the pliers and caused the two sides to rust. I've come across this problem before with the hubs of snow blower wheels rusting onto the drive axle of the snow blower. What I find works well is to simpy apply muriatic acid (which is 26 or so percent hydrochloric acid) to the joint between the wheel hub and the drive axle with an eye dropper (which you can buy for $2 from any pharmacy). Capillary action then draws the acid into that joint where it dissolves the rust. Once the rust is fully dissolved, the wheel starts turning on the drive axle. I find that muriatic acid dissolves the rust far more aggressively than it does the steel. In fact, it appears to do nothing more than clean the steel, but it definitely dissolves the rust. Any masonary contractor will have muriatic acid if you don't feel the need to buy a gallon or quart for yourself. If you give then a $5 bill for their effort, I'm sure they'd give you enough to do the job. But, bring your own plastic container. And, of course, muriatic acid is about the strongest acid that's readily available to consumers, so be careful with it. I had, years ago, an old pair of country boy's fence pliers. I may try this, if I still have them. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On 4/10/2014 10:38 AM, nestork wrote:
.... I've come across this problem before with the hubs of snow blower wheels rusting onto the drive axle of the snow blower. What I find works well is to simpy apply muriatic acid (which is 26 or so percent hydrochloric acid) to the joint between the wheel hub and the drive axle with an eye dropper (which you can buy for $2 from any pharmacy). Capillary action then draws the acid into that joint where it dissolves the rust. Once the rust is fully dissolved, the wheel starts turning on the drive axle. I find that muriatic acid dissolves the rust far more aggressively than it does the steel. In fact, it appears to do nothing more than clean the steel, but it definitely dissolves the rust. .... You've rediscovered the wheel... :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid#Pickling_of_steel -- |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
"Bob_Villa" wrote in message ...
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:06:13 AM UTC-5, Frank Thompson wrote: How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? You don't! You're done! (I would add MOST people refer to "long-nose pliers" as NNP...because it's cute~not because it's accurate) http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...a96764b9.jp g http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...b6185fe9.jp g sorry to bust your fantasy world, but i ain't never heard them called anything but needle-nose for 50 years. no body i know calls them long nose pliers. you're the first one. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:06:13 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote:
How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Drill it out. Re-bolt. Ugly? yes. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 13:17:11 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 4/10/2014 10:38 AM, nestork wrote: ... I've come across this problem before with the hubs of snow blower wheels rusting onto the drive axle of the snow blower. What I find works well is to simpy apply muriatic acid (which is 26 or so percent hydrochloric acid) to the joint between the wheel hub and the drive axle with an eye dropper (which you can buy for $2 from any pharmacy). Capillary action then draws the acid into that joint where it dissolves the rust. Once the rust is fully dissolved, the wheel starts turning on the drive axle. A friend had a wheel rusted to a front axle. I think he's sold the car by now, which is a shame because I'd love to try your remedy here. Click and Clack recommended loosening the lug nuts and driving around. Didn't get to do that either. It wouldn't work on a snow blower, because you can't go fast enough. Copy to him, for the next time. I find that muriatic acid dissolves the rust far more aggressively than it does the steel. In fact, it appears to do nothing more than clean the steel, but it definitely dissolves the rust. ... You've rediscovered the wheel... :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid#Pickling_of_steel |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:24:07 -0700 (PDT), Thomas
wrote: On Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:06:13 AM UTC-4, Frank Thompson wrote: How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? Drill it out. Re-bolt. Ugly? yes. Well, I did re-bolt a very large pair of water pump pliers. I found the two halves already separated in the trash barrel at a gas station. It's worked fine on an occasional basis for 5 years now. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:19:51 PM UTC-5, gopher stew wrote:
"Bob_Villa" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:06:13 AM UTC-5, Frank Thompson wrote: How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? You don't! You're done! (I would add MOST people refer to "long-nose pliers" as NNP...because it's cute~not because it's accurate) http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...a96764b9.jp g http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...b6185fe9.jp g sorry to bust your fantasy world, but i ain't never heard them called anything but needle-nose for 50 years. no body i know calls them long nose pliers. you're the first one. I have and I'm 68...it may be regional though. Still, both are long-nose and one is needle-nose! |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:32:02 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:
And, of course, muriatic acid is about the strongest acid that's readily available to consumers, so be careful with it. Easy to get HCL in gallon quantities at any box store that also sells pool equipment (e.g., Home Depot, Lowes, etc.). I've put LOTS of stuff in HCL, so, just be careful that you pull it out earlier rather than later. What's a good way to get rid of rain surface rust on tools left outside https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ir/MnRFkwF0jQU[1-25-false] http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12252772.jpg http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287619.jpg http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12252771.jpg http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287169.jpg http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287553.jpg etc. (many pictures in that thread) Do they make a rubbery paint for chipped refrigerator wire racks? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.home.repair/phosphoric$20acid$20danny/alt.home.repair/rYTbqlRYuM4/lAJT0XYPBdsJ http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7379/9...99e79f78_o.gif https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...4/lAJT0XYPBdsJ As stated, Phosphoric acid (e.g., Naval Jelly) is also sold in all the box stores, at about the same price for 16 ounces as you pay for a gallon of HCL. Both will remove rust. I'd try the phosphoric acid first, and then, the brute force hydrochloric acid last. When done, oil her up. Worked for me. |
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Danny,
Naval jelly isn't likely to get anywhere near the rust in the joint. Fortunately, phosphoric acid in liquid form comes in red cans marked Coca Cola. Coke is a famously cheap rust remover. Dave M. |
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If you want to REMOVE the rust, then I'd just go with hydrochloric acid. I don't know if hydrochloric acid will dissolve ferric phosphate, so it might be a bit of a gamble using the phosphoric acid first. You may then end up having to find something that'll dissolve the ferric phosphate. By just going with the hydrochloric acid first, then you know it'll dissolve any rust it encounters. |
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nestork wrote: ...snipped... If you want to REMOVE the rust, then I'd just go with hydrochloric acid. I don't know if hydrochloric acid will dissolve ferric phosphate, so it might be a bit of a gamble using the phosphoric acid first. You may then end up having to find something that'll dissolve the ferric phosphate. By just going with the hydrochloric acid first, then you know it'll dissolve any rust it encounters. HCl will remove the rust but be sure to neutralize it and rinse completely off when your done. If it remains in prolonged contact with iron & steel it will cause quicker rusting later. -- The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. (Winston Churchill) Larry W. - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 23:37:09 +0200, nestork wrote:
By just going with the hydrochloric acid first, then you know it'll dissolve any rust it encounters. I have nothing against HCL, and, the record shows, I use it all the time - but - anyone who hasn't used it should be cautioned as to how powerful that stuff is. I left some copper hose components in a bucket of the stuff, for example, only a few minutes, and they were holed beyond use. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:54:00 -0700 (PDT), Bob_Villa
wrote: On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:19:51 PM UTC-5, gopher stew wrote: "Bob_Villa" wrote in message ... On Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:06:13 AM UTC-5, Frank Thompson wrote: How does one disassemble needle nose pliers? You don't! You're done! (I would add MOST people refer to "long-nose pliers" as NNP...because it's cute~not because it's accurate) http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...a96764b9.jp g http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...b6185fe9.jp g I thought one was a needle nose and the other a needler nose. sorry to bust your fantasy world, but i ain't never heard them called anything but needle-nose for 50 years. no body i know calls them long nose pliers. you're the first one. I have and I'm 68...it may be regional though. Still, both are long-nose and one is needle-nose! |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:32:02 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: And, of course, muriatic acid is about the strongest acid that's readily available to consumers, so be careful with it. Easy to get HCL in gallon quantities at any box store that also sells pool equipment (e.g., Home Depot, Lowes, etc.). I've put LOTS of stuff in HCL, so, just be careful that you pull it out earlier rather than later. What's a good way to get rid of rain surface rust on tools left outside https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ir/MnRFkwF0jQU[1-25-false] http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12252772.jpg http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287619.jpg http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12252771.jpg http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287169.jpg http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12287553.jpg etc. (many pictures in that thread) A lot of tools and other things can have their rust removed with a wire wheel, in place of a grindstone on a bench grinder. It works quickly, leaves a beautful finish. Most things look as if they were new (I'm not saying like new, like they themselves looked like when they were new, because they might have been shiny) but they look beautiful And it's a one-step process. BE SURE TO WEAR GOGGLES BECAUSE THE WIRES DO COME OUT OF THE WHEEL WHILE IT SPINS. ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY STUCK ITSELF IN SKIN, IN MY FOREHEAD. DIDN'T SHOW BLOOD WHEN I PULLED IT OUT, BUT WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT WITH MY EYE. Even wood things might look great after time on the wheel. I did have some problem with a saw blade, that seemed thicker than originally when I was done. Maybe that was that particular blade and others would come out fine. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
I had a old pair of my long dead grandpas. I put it in a pan and covered them with oil, checked back in a week they worked like new.
Just a week ago I found 2 brand new rotors for my van, they were on a top shelf and rusted from a leaky water pipe, copper that developed a pin hole. while I pondered wire brushing them my girl friend immersed them in a pan covered each one with vinegar. Wierdly ALL the rust disappeared, although the once rusty areas had a mottled look. So I used a scothbrite pad on them. they looked brand new:) and worked fine on the van |
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On 4/10/2014 12:32 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/10/2014 11:38 AM, nestork wrote: I find that muriatic acid dissolves the rust far more aggressively than it does the steel. In fact, it appears to do nothing more than clean the steel, but it definitely dissolves the rust. I had, years ago, an old pair of country boy's fence pliers. I may try this, if I still have them. Just for grins and giggles, I got the old fence pliers, laying in he muddy gravel in front of my trailer where I left them about three or four years ago. I found my old jug of muriatic, and poured some on. Then, I took a sandwich bag and pour some in, and let that soak. Took them out, and beat on em with a hammer, and used a cold chisel right behind the pivot to put some separating force. The joint loosened up a bit. Hit it with hammer some more. Pour some more acid on,and work it with muscle power. After a while the joint loosened up, as free as the day it was born. I'm thrilled and giggling, and thankful to the kind people on this list. I'm going to leave the pliers some where dry, over night. and then lubricate with a couple drops of motor oil. Thank you Nestork, and anyone else who suggested. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers (use muriatic)
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 13:43:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: I had, years ago, an old pair of country boy's fence pliers. I may try this, if I still have them. Just for grins and giggles, I got the old fence pliers, laying in he muddy gravel in front of my trailer where I left them about three or four years ago. I found my old jug of muriatic, and poured some on. Then, I took a sandwich bag and pour some in, and let that soak. Took them out, and beat on em with a hammer, and used a cold chisel right behind the pivot to put some separating force. The joint loosened up a bit. Hit it with hammer some more. Pour some more acid on,and work it with muscle power. After a while the joint loosened up, as free as the day it was born. I'm thrilled and giggling, and thankful to the kind people on this list. I'm going to leave the pliers some where dry, over night. and then lubricate with a couple drops of motor oil. Thank you Nestork, and anyone else who suggested. Did you neutralize the acid with a solution of water and baking soda? Then let them dry out and oil... |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:48:27 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: I had a old pair of my long dead grandpas. I put it in a pan and covered them with oil, checked back in a week they worked like new. Just a week ago I found 2 brand new rotors for my van, they were on a top shelf and rusted from a leaky water pipe, copper that developed a pin hole. while I pondered wire brushing them my girl friend immersed them in a pan covered each one with vinegar. Wierdly ALL the rust disappeared, although the once rusty areas had a mottled look. So I used a scothbrite pad on them. they looked brand new:) and worked fine on the van I've read of people using white vinegar to clean mild rust off cast iron skillets. I made and used electrolysis tank for a large Dutch oven. http://oi33.tinypic.com/rmnwo5.jpg |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers (use muriatic)
On 4/11/2014 2:19 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 13:43:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: I had, years ago, an old pair of country boy's fence pliers. I may try this, if I still have them. Just for grins and giggles, I got the old fence pliers, laying in he muddy gravel in front of my trailer where I left them about three or four years ago. I found my old jug of muriatic, and poured some on. Then, I took a sandwich bag and pour some in, and let that soak. Took them out, and beat on em with a hammer, and used a cold chisel right behind the pivot to put some separating force. The joint loosened up a bit. Hit it with hammer some more. Pour some more acid on,and work it with muscle power. After a while the joint loosened up, as free as the day it was born. I'm thrilled and giggling, and thankful to the kind people on this list. I'm going to leave the pliers some where dry, over night. and then lubricate with a couple drops of motor oil. Thank you Nestork, and anyone else who suggested. Did you neutralize the acid with a solution of water and baking soda? Then let them dry out and oil... My neglect, thought I mentioned that. I sprayed it with a blast of lye based oven cleaner (which also helps remove rust in some situations) and then rinse with lots of water. Thank you for asking, and catching my omission, I forgot to -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers (use muriatic)
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:50:33 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Did you neutralize the acid with a solution of water and baking soda? BTW, as with any acid, I neutralized with just water and detergent - but lots and lots of it. BEFORE PIC: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/1...42ecc4b6f9.jpg DURING PIC: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2862/1...2b8f710c04.jpg AFTER PIC: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7338/1...0aa16341fa.jpg Of course, HCL works MUCH FASTER! http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7256/1...b47303b358.jpg But, THIS happens if you don't neutralize concrete spills: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/1...f151af73da.jpg |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers (use muriatic)
On 4/11/2014 11:29 PM, Danny D. wrote:
BTW, as with any acid, I neutralized with just water and detergent - but lots and lots of it. BEFORE PIC: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/1...42ecc4b6f9.jpg DURING PIC: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2862/1...2b8f710c04.jpg AFTER PIC: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7338/1...0aa16341fa.jpg Of course, HCL works MUCH FASTER! http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7256/1...b47303b358.jpg But, THIS happens if you don't neutralize concrete spills: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/1...f151af73da.jpg It's been a long time since I was in chemistry class. But, I don't remember detergents neutralizing acid. Remove maybe, but not neutralize. To neutralize,you need an alkalai, or a carbonate. I think mean acid spill on concrete, not "concrete spill". I know, splitting hairs. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
how to disassemble needle nose pliers
I've come across this problem before with the hubs of snow blower
wheels rusting onto the drive axle of the snow blower. What I find works well is to simpy apply muriatic acid (which is 26 or so percent hydrochloric acid) to the joint between the wheel hub and the drive axle with an eye dropper (which you can buy for $2 from any pharmacy). Capillary action then draws the acid into that joint where it dissolves the rust. Once the rust is fully dissolved, the wheel starts turning on the drive axle. A friend of mine had such a situation, maybe 20 years ago. I remember him offering me the job of changing the impellor on his snow thrower, and I didn't feel qualified. Wish I'd known, then, what I do today. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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