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happytuning April 3rd 14 06:45 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
Good afternoon everybody...being living in my first home for about 3yrs
now. Been doing simple repair here and there, but now I have to replace my
outside light post (broke) which is located in the center of my front
lawn. There electrical running with indoor light switch, would light to
switch to solar but several can find one that has good review with long
last lighting.

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philo  April 3rd 14 07:33 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
On 04/03/2014 12:45 PM, happytuning wrote:
Good afternoon everybody...being living in my first home for about 3yrs
now. Been doing simple repair here and there, but now I have to replace my
outside light post (broke) which is located in the center of my front
lawn. There electrical running with indoor light switch, would light to
switch to solar but several can find one that has good review with long
last lighting.




Be sure you know which breaker it's on and turn that off.

Don't rely on the switch only

Dan.Espen April 3rd 14 08:12 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
happytuning writes:

Good afternoon everybody...being living in my first home for about 3yrs
now. Been doing simple repair here and there, but now I have to replace my
outside light post (broke) which is located in the center of my front
lawn. There electrical running with indoor light switch, would light to
switch to solar but several can find one that has good review with long
last lighting.


Please try to proof read before you post,
I found the above hard to understand.

I think the above says you want to switch to solar even though you
have wired power.

Not a good idea.

I've yet to see a solar powered light put out anything more than a dim
glow.

Carefully dig out the old one and replace.
I dug out one that had been planted in cement.
It's hard work but it can be done.

--
Dan Espen

happytuning April 3rd 14 11:44 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:

despen wrote:

happytuning writes:
Please try to proof read before you post,
I found the above hard to understand.
I think the above says you want to switch to solar even though you
have wired power.
Not a good idea.
I've yet to see a solar powered light put out anything more than a dim
glow.
Carefully dig out the old one and replace.
I dug out one that had been planted in cement.
It's hard work but it can be done.
--
Dan Espen





I apologize Dan. Yes, you understood correctly.Thanks for the reply.
If my current light post is in fact mounted onto a cement block, which
tools do you recommend that I utilize?


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Robert Green April 4th 14 12:47 AM

outdoor post lighting
 
"Dan.Espen" wrote in message
...

happytuning writes:


Dan, you're very likely responding to troll. Just compare happytuning's
email addy with these people who "hit and run" with a single post and almost
never return to answer follow-ups or acknowledge people's replies:

"CCK10"

"lorie"
om

mike w om

SethF om

Joe Turbo om

WindowSpecialist

Rod om

Richard om

toddeus om

DA

Meefirst234 om

Kay om

Please try to proof read before you post,
I found the above hard to understand.


I'd admonish them to become human beings before they post and not trolls,
who have infested this group to a remarkable degree - perhaps because they
get so well-fed here. While, as Philo suggests, there may be a web-portal
action going on here, looking up any of the above posters will reveal a
pattern of idiotic "hit and run" posts along the same lines "I want to
convert a 110VAC outlet in my trailer to 210VAC."


Bobby G.



DerbyDad03 April 4th 14 12:50 AM

outdoor post lighting
 
happytuning wrote:
Good afternoon everybody...being living in my first home for about 3yrs
now. Been doing simple repair here and there, but now I have to replace my
outside light post (broke) which is located in the center of my front
lawn. There electrical running with indoor light switch, would light to
switch to solar but several can find one that has good review with long
last lighting.

--


In my opinion, you are lucky to have power running to the light. I would
not substitute a solar fixture for a wired fixture.

If it were me, I would replace the current fixture with another wired
fixture. I would buy one that has a motion sensor with a dusk to dawn
setting. That would give you the choice of "on all night", "on when it
senses motion" or "on 24-7" if you so choose.

I have yet to see solar lights that are bright enough or last long enough
to be of any use. Granted, I've never owned any solar lights, but when I
walk the dogs at night and see the wimpy light put out by those solar power
landscape lights, I always wonder why people even bother.

I'm not sure if code requires a lamp post to be protected by a GFI, but if
it were me doing the installation, I'd want it to be a GFI regardless of
what the code says.

Of course, this all assumes that the existing wiring for the lamp post is
installed correctly and is in good shape.

Dan.Espen April 4th 14 02:26 AM

outdoor post lighting
 
happytuning writes:

replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:

despen wrote:

happytuning
writes: Please try to proof read before you post, I found the above
hard to understand. I think the above says you want to switch to
solar even though you have wired power. Not a good idea. I've yet to
see a solar powered light put out anything more than a dim
glow. Carefully dig out the old one and replace. I dug out one that
had been planted in cement. It's hard work but it can be done. --
Dan Espen


I apologize Dan. Yes, you understood correctly.Thanks for the
reply. If my current light post is in fact mounted onto a cement
block, which
tools do you recommend that I utilize?


What I did was
dig around the post to expose the block then split with a rock chisel.

I have one of those 30 - 40 lb 5 foot breaker bars that I'd try if I had
to do it again.

Mainly you want to avoid cutting the wires that runs through the block.
When I did it, the block of cement split apart after some pounding.

Needless to say, I did not use cement to put in the new post.

--
Dan Espen

Dan.Espen April 4th 14 02:32 AM

outdoor post lighting
 
"Robert Green" writes:

"Dan.Espen" wrote in message
...

happytuning writes:


Dan, you're very likely responding to troll. Just compare happytuning's
email addy with these people who "hit and run" with a single post and almost
never return to answer follow-ups or acknowledge people's replies:


The place is crawling with trolls, but he did ask an on topic question,
that's refreshing in itself.

He also apologized and followed up with another reasonable question.
Hey, we're on a roll.

I remember all too well my battle with the lamp post so I'm happy
to share. Not to overstate, cracking open a concrete block isn't
all that hard. I'm pretty sure the wire is almost always going to
be embedded in the concrete but it should come free. You don't want
to cut it, creating a water proof extension would be a challenge.

--
Dan Espen

Robert Green April 4th 14 07:25 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
"Dan.Espen" wrote in message
...
"Robert Green" writes:

"Dan.Espen" wrote in message
...

happytuning writes:


Dan, you're very likely responding to troll. Just compare happytuning's
email addy with these people who "hit and run" with a single post and

almost
never return to answer follow-ups or acknowledge people's replies:


The place is crawling with trolls, but he did ask an on topic question,
that's refreshing in itself.


Yes, there's that. But the question remains. Why would someone create over
a dozen aliases to post on-topic stuff? I suppose the answer's going to be
closely related to why trolls post reams of off-topic crap generally.

He also apologized and followed up with another reasonable question.
Hey, we're on a roll.


Well, that can be attributed to being outted and afraid that no one will
respond in the future to any of the many "example.com" trolls.

I remember all too well my battle with the lamp post so I'm happy
to share. Not to overstate, cracking open a concrete block isn't
all that hard. I'm pretty sure the wire is almost always going to
be embedded in the concrete but it should come free. You don't want
to cut it, creating a water proof extension would be a challenge.


There's no denying that the information could be useful to someone searching
the archives for "post lighting." I just wanted to alert you to the
research I did that shows what appears to be the same person creating sock
puppet after sock puppet.

Now back to my running OT discussion with Trader the missing jetliner.
(-: At least I know he's not a sock puppet.

--
Bobby G.



Dan.Espen April 4th 14 07:54 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
"Robert Green" writes:
Now back to my running OT discussion with Trader the missing jetliner.
(-: At least I know he's not a sock puppet.


Take your pick, sock puppet or just plain nasty.
I think I'll go with the puppet(s).

--
Dan Espen

happytuning April 5th 14 02:44 AM

outdoor post lighting
 
replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:
despen wrote:

happytuning writes:
What I did was
dig around the post to expose the block then split with a rock chisel.
I have one of those 30 - 40 lb 5 foot breaker bars that I'd try if I had
to do it again.
Mainly you want to avoid cutting the wires that runs through the block.
When I did it, the block of cement split apart after some pounding.
Needless to say, I did not use cement to put in the new post.
--
Dan Espen




Very good. As always, I appreciate the responses. You guys almost lost
with with that troll topic. But anywho, I will be posting up pics as I
begin to tackle this project.


--



trader_4 April 5th 14 12:54 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 7:50:48 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
happytuning wrote:

Good afternoon everybody...being living in my first home for about 3yrs


now. Been doing simple repair here and there, but now I have to replace my


outside light post (broke) which is located in the center of my front


lawn. There electrical running with indoor light switch, would light to


switch to solar but several can find one that has good review with long


last lighting.




--




In my opinion, you are lucky to have power running to the light. I would

not substitute a solar fixture for a wired fixture.



If it were me, I would replace the current fixture with another wired

fixture. I would buy one that has a motion sensor with a dusk to dawn

setting. That would give you the choice of "on all night", "on when it

senses motion" or "on 24-7" if you so choose.



I have yet to see solar lights that are bright enough or last long enough

to be of any use. Granted, I've never owned any solar lights, but when I

walk the dogs at night and see the wimpy light put out by those solar power

landscape lights, I always wonder why people even bother.



I'm not sure if code requires a lamp post to be protected by a GFI, but if

it were me doing the installation, I'd want it to be a GFI regardless of

what the code says.



Of course, this all assumes that the existing wiring for the lamp post is

installed correctly and is in good shape.


+1 to the above. Regarding the GFCI, code doesn't require it,
unless it has a receptacle. Depending on where it;s located and where the
nearest receptacle is, adding one may not be a bad idea.

Dan.Espen April 5th 14 02:46 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
happytuning writes:

replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:
despen wrote:

happytuning
writes: What I did was dig around the post to expose the block then
split with a rock chisel. I have one of those 30 - 40 lb 5 foot
breaker bars that I'd try if I had to do it again. Mainly you want
to avoid cutting the wires that runs through the block. When I did
it, the block of cement split apart after some pounding. Needless to
say, I did not use cement to put in the new post. --
Dan Espen


Very good. As always, I appreciate the responses. You guys almost lost
with with that troll topic. But anywho, I will be posting up pics as I
begin to tackle this project.


So, just curious, example.com is supposedly for demonstration purposes
in documentation. It doesn't appear to be a real domain.
How did you end up with the funny email address?

--
Dan Espen

Unquestionably Confused April 5th 14 03:20 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
On 4/5/2014 8:46 AM, Dan.Espen wrote:
happytuning writes:

replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:
despen wrote:



So, just curious, example.com is supposedly for demonstration purposes
in documentation. It doesn't appear to be a real domain.
How did you end up with the funny email address?


He made it up, that's how.

ANYONE can cause their email client to display anything as a "From" or
"Reply to" address.

It could just as easily been "

Easy way to check is to cut and paste the address provided into a mail
tester site.

See:

http://www.mailtester.com





Dan.Espen April 5th 14 04:49 PM

outdoor post lighting
 
Unquestionably Confused writes:

On 4/5/2014 8:46 AM, Dan.Espen wrote:
happytuning writes:

replying to Dan.Espen , happytuning wrote:
despen wrote:



So, just curious, example.com is supposedly for demonstration purposes
in documentation. It doesn't appear to be a real domain.
How did you end up with the funny email address?


He made it up, that's how.

ANYONE can cause their email client to display anything as a "From" or
"Reply to" address.

It could just as easily been "

Easy way to check is to cut and paste the address provided into a mail
tester site.

See:

http://www.mailtester.com


Yes but I'm curious as to why there are multiple posters with
similar faked email addresses. Maybe there's some software generating
those fake addresses...

--
Dan Espen


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