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Actually, I don't need help, but the entire USA needs help to keep it
from going down the toilet. Here's another example of your voyage to the bottom of the toilet bowl, with your ultimate destination being hell: =============================== Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. The latest attack occurred just before 7 a.m. Wednesday in a largely abandoned neighborhood near Plymouth and Meyers roads the city’s west side. A 23-year-old woman told police she was leaving a gas station when a man came behind her and put a gun to her head. The woman said her attacker forced her into a car, ripped off her clothes and began burning her face with a blow torch. Police say the victim stabbed the man in the eye with a screwdriver and was able to get away and call for help. She’s currently hospitalized in stable condition. The suspect fled the scene in a small, 4-door, beige vehicle. He’s described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early to mid-20s, about 6’2? tall and 185 pounds. . Police believe the suspect is the same man who attacked two women last July. The women were found just miles apart in vacant fields – both severely beaten and without any clothing. The first woman was found around 5:50 a.m. July 26 in the 12800 block of Eaton, near Meyers Road and Lyndon Street. Police say the 37-year-old was physically assaulted and had burn marks on her body. Just over 24 hours later, the second woman was found around 7 a.m. July 27 at Elmira and Iris Streets, near Plymouth and Meyers roads. Police say the woman was set on fire and sexually assaulted. Although both women were left in critical condition after the attacks, they survived. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ |
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On 1/23/2014 6:12 AM, Alex J. Murphy wrote:
Actually, I don't need help, but the entire USA needs help to keep it from going down the toilet. Here's another example of your voyage to the bottom of the toilet bowl, with your ultimate destination being hell: =============================== Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. The latest attack occurred just before 7 a.m. Wednesday in a largely abandoned neighborhood near Plymouth and Meyers roads the city’s west side. A 23-year-old woman told police she was leaving a gas station when a man came behind her and put a gun to her head. The woman said her attacker forced her into a car, ripped off her clothes and began burning her face with a blow torch. Police say the victim stabbed the man in the eye with a screwdriver and was able to get away and call for help. She’s currently hospitalized in stable condition. The suspect fled the scene in a small, 4-door, beige vehicle. He’s described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early to mid-20s, about 6’2? tall and 185 pounds. . Police believe the suspect is the same man who attacked two women last July. The women were found just miles apart in vacant fields – both severely beaten and without any clothing. The first woman was found around 5:50 a.m. July 26 in the 12800 block of Eaton, near Meyers Road and Lyndon Street. Police say the 37-year-old was physically assaulted and had burn marks on her body. Just over 24 hours later, the second woman was found around 7 a.m. July 27 at Elmira and Iris Streets, near Plymouth and Meyers roads. Police say the woman was set on fire and sexually assaulted. Although both women were left in critical condition after the attacks, they survived. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ |
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On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 1/23/2014 6:12 AM, Alex J. Murphy wrote: Actually, I don't need help, but the entire USA needs help to keep it from going down the toilet. Here's another example of your voyage to the bottom of the toilet bowl, with your ultimate destination being hell: =============================== Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. The latest attack occurred just before 7 a.m. Wednesday in a largely abandoned neighborhood near Plymouth and Meyers roads the city’s west side. A 23-year-old woman told police she was leaving a gas station when a man came behind her and put a gun to her head. The woman said her attacker forced her into a car, ripped off her clothes and began burning her face with a blow torch. Police say the victim stabbed the man in the eye with a screwdriver and was able to get away and call for help. She’s currently hospitalized in stable condition. The suspect fled the scene in a small, 4-door, beige vehicle. He’s described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early to mid-20s, about 6’2? tall and 185 pounds. . Police believe the suspect is the same man who attacked two women last July. The women were found just miles apart in vacant fields – both severely beaten and without any clothing. The first woman was found around 5:50 a.m. July 26 in the 12800 block of Eaton, near Meyers Road and Lyndon Street. Police say the 37-year-old was physically assaulted and had burn marks on her body. Just over 24 hours later, the second woman was found around 7 a.m. July 27 at Elmira and Iris Streets, near Plymouth and Meyers roads. Police say the woman was set on fire and sexually assaulted. Although both women were left in critical condition after the attacks, they survived. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Probably a propane torch. It's like to the press, every gun is an assault weapon |
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On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote:
Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Sounds terrifying, for the victims. Be nice if one of his future victims had a handgun, and the willingness to use it. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 1/23/2014 2:57 PM, Frank wrote:
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Probably a propane torch. It's like to the press, every gun is an assault weapon I'm calling for immediate reduction of propane tank capacity. No more high capacity propane magazines or clips, capable of firing large flames, for long periods of time. Why, if only one life could be saved! Who's with me? The time is now! -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 1/23/2014 11:57 AM, Frank wrote:
On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote: On 1/23/2014 6:12 AM, Alex J. Murphy wrote: Actually, I don't need help, but the entire USA needs help to keep it from going down the toilet. Here's another example of your voyage to the bottom of the toilet bowl, with your ultimate destination being hell: =============================== Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. The latest attack occurred just before 7 a.m. Wednesday in a largely abandoned neighborhood near Plymouth and Meyers roads the city’s west side. A 23-year-old woman told police she was leaving a gas station when a man came behind her and put a gun to her head. The woman said her attacker forced her into a car, ripped off her clothes and began burning her face with a blow torch. Police say the victim stabbed the man in the eye with a screwdriver and was able to get away and call for help. She’s currently hospitalized in stable condition. The suspect fled the scene in a small, 4-door, beige vehicle. He’s described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early to mid-20s, about 6’2? tall and 185 pounds. . Police believe the suspect is the same man who attacked two women last July. The women were found just miles apart in vacant fields – both severely beaten and without any clothing. The first woman was found around 5:50 a.m. July 26 in the 12800 block of Eaton, near Meyers Road and Lyndon Street. Police say the 37-year-old was physically assaulted and had burn marks on her body. Just over 24 hours later, the second woman was found around 7 a.m. July 27 at Elmira and Iris Streets, near Plymouth and Meyers roads. Police say the woman was set on fire and sexually assaulted. Although both women were left in critical condition after the attacks, they survived. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Probably a propane torch. It's like to the press, every gun is an assault weapon Now you've done it! The local paper had a picture and story last year of an accident during a sewer construction project. The picture showed a front end loader with a load of crushed rock had gotten too close to the edge of the hole and the sandy ground had given away and most of the loader had gone into the hole. The story was covered for several days and always told of the dump truck that backed into the hole! Paul |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:43:19 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote: Blow Torch Rapist’ Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He’s been dubbed the “Blow Torch Rapist” and Detroit police say he’s struck again. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Sounds terrifying, for the victims. Be nice if one of his future victims had a handgun, and the willingness to use it. A lot of people smarter than the average reporter will refer to a propane torch or a butane torch as a "blow torch" - and the flame on them is virtually instant - and they are a LOT easier to carry around and conceal. |
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In article ,
wrote: [ ... ] A lot of people smarter than the average reporter will refer to a propane torch or a butane torch as a "blow torch" - and the flame on them is virtually instant - and they are a LOT easier to carry around and conceal. I'd guess it's a MAPP torch; most have a combo valve and igniter which is actuated with a trigger pull. Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. However, a screwdriver in the eye is an effective expedient defensive move. Good for her! Gary |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Frank wrote:
On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote: On 1/23/2014 6:12 AM, Alex J. Murphy wrote: Actually, I don't need help, but the entire USA needs help to keep it from going down the toilet. Here's another example of your voyage to the bottom of the toilet bowl, with your ultimate destination being hell: =============================== Blow Torch Rapist? Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He?s been dubbed the ?Blow Torch Rapist? and Detroit police say he?s struck again. The latest attack occurred just before 7 a.m. Wednesday in a largely abandoned neighborhood near Plymouth and Meyers roads the city?s west side. A 23-year-old woman told police she was leaving a gas station when a man came behind her and put a gun to her head. The woman said her attacker forced her into a car, ripped off her clothes and began burning her face with a blow torch. Police say the victim stabbed the man in the eye with a screwdriver and was able to get away and call for help. She?s currently hospitalized in stable condition. The suspect fled the scene in a small, 4-door, beige vehicle. He?s described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early to mid-20s, about 6?2? tall and 185 pounds. . Police believe the suspect is the same man who attacked two women last July. The women were found just miles apart in vacant fields ? both severely beaten and without any clothing. The first woman was found around 5:50 a.m. July 26 in the 12800 block of Eaton, near Meyers Road and Lyndon Street. Police say the 37-year-old was physically assaulted and had burn marks on her body. Just over 24 hours later, the second woman was found around 7 a.m. July 27 at Elmira and Iris Streets, near Plymouth and Meyers roads. Police say the woman was set on fire and sexually assaulted. Although both women were left in critical condition after the attacks, they survived. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Probably a propane torch. It's like to the press, every gun is an assault weapon And more important, since the clueless guy seemed to think alt.home.repair was relevant (why do we see so many rants between there and misc.consumers?), it was likely one of those pocket torches, which is butane. Really kind of useful, if safety considerations make it hard to start up, the small size is likely what the guy in the story wanted. A propane torch is hardly that portable, and unless you splurge on the more expensive model with the self starter, you have to turn the knob, hold the torch, and use an igniter, kind of hard to hold the victim while doing that, so they could have run away while you arm your threatening device. I really should get a new tank of propane for my torch, there are times when it can be useful. Though that pocket butane torch has been handy for soldering things that were too much for my soldering gun. Michael |
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:43:19 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote: Blow Torch Rapist? Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He?s been dubbed the ?Blow Torch Rapist? and Detroit police say he?s struck again. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Sounds terrifying, for the victims. Be nice if one of his future victims had a handgun, and the willingness to use it. A lot of people smarter than the average reporter will refer to a propane torch or a butane torch as a "blow torch" - and the flame on them is virtually instant - and they are a LOT easier to carry around and conceal. But if you get stopped, and they find the torch, how will you explain that? I can justify carrying a knife around a lot more than I can a torch, unless I actually was taking it to a friend's to help him do something. Michael |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:28:00 -0500, Michael Black
wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:43:19 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/23/2014 12:41 PM, Paul Drahn wrote: Blow Torch Rapist? Strikes Again In Detroit January 23, 2014 6:36 AM DETROIT (WWJ) - He?s been dubbed the ?Blow Torch Rapist? and Detroit police say he?s struck again. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/01/...strikes-again/ Do you have any idea how long it takes to get a blow torch operating???? At least 2 minutes to get the pressure tube heated up and vaporizing the gasoline or coleman fuel. Are you sure the perp used a blow torch???/ Sounds terrifying, for the victims. Be nice if one of his future victims had a handgun, and the willingness to use it. A lot of people smarter than the average reporter will refer to a propane torch or a butane torch as a "blow torch" - and the flame on them is virtually instant - and they are a LOT easier to carry around and conceal. But if you get stopped, and they find the torch, how will you explain that? I can justify carrying a knife around a lot more than I can a torch, unless I actually was taking it to a friend's to help him do something. Who has to justify anything? |
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On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, The Real Bev wrote:
On 01/23/2014 05:11 PM, Gary Heston wrote: In article , wrote: [ ... ] A lot of people smarter than the average reporter will refer to a propane torch or a butane torch as a "blow torch" - and the flame on them is virtually instant - and they are a LOT easier to carry around and conceal. I'd guess it's a MAPP torch; most have a combo valve and igniter which is actuated with a trigger pull. Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. I've heard that hair spray makes a decent defensive weapon too. Nice flame thrower if you have a cigarette lighter, unless that's just a movie thing. The concept makes sense. A flammable spray, so it moves away from the can and can be lit on fire. I know someone talked about it back in high school, but I can't remember if he merely saw it in a movie, or had tried it himself. I once accidentally sprayed my eye with dryer fabric-softener spray and had blurry vision for several days. The effects of hair spray probably last longer. Especially if it's perfumed, which can make a lot of things "toxic". Michael |
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On 1/25/2014 2:09 PM, Michael Black wrote:
I've heard that hair spray makes a decent defensive weapon too. Nice flame thrower if you have a cigarette lighter, unless that's just a movie thing. The concept makes sense. A flammable spray, so it moves away from the can and can be lit on fire. I know someone talked about it back in high school, but I can't remember if he merely saw it in a movie, or had tried it himself. Some years ago, a teenager in Aus had seen that on a movie, perhaps James Bond movie. He found an Au size critter in the closet of his house, and decided to try the Bond technique. I don't remember if the critter died in the process, but the house got burned to the ground. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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* Propane is hot. Mapp is hotter. Acetylene
is hotter, yet. Oxy acetylene is even more so. I've not used Mapp Pro, but suspect it's some where between propane and mapp. * Have a fire extinguisher near by, and be ready to use it. Garden hose is excellent idea. * When possible, heat from the back of what you are doing, so you don't light the rest of the work on fire. * Small silver brazing can be done with mapp, but acetylene is preferred. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:36:23 -0800, The Real Bev
wrote: I've heard that hair spray makes a decent defensive weapon too. Nice flame thrower if you have a cigarette lighter, unless that's just a movie thing. Hair spray does ignite with a lighter and shoots a flame.. I've done it, my brother has done it. It is not a defense weapon, though. Turn your smart phone into a stun gun. (950,000 Volts) http://www.yellowjacketcase.com/ Note: Do not take a torch to a gun fight! |
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On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:09:01 -0500, Michael Black
wrote: The concept makes sense. A flammable spray, so it moves away from the can and can be lit on fire. I know someone talked about it back in high school, but I can't remember if he merely saw it in a movie, or had tried it himself. Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8BfP6zrUBY BTDT |
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I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it
against wasp nests. I've heard that hair spray makes a decent defensive weapon too. Nice flame thrower if you have a cigarette lighter, unless that's just a movie thing. The concept makes sense. A flammable spray, so it moves away from the can and can be lit on fire. I know someone talked about it back in high school, but I can't remember if he merely saw it in a movie, or had tried it himself. Freshmen in college dorms tend to do a lot of stupid stuff to annoy each other (but generally they avoided anything that had a high chance of permanent harm). This was particularly true just before vacations or during vacations among students who didn't leave for whatever reason, so they didn't have much studying to do. I recall that in the 1970's I saw demonstrations of things like turning spray deodorant into a flame thrower. I may have tried a couple of them. Anyway, it flames, but as a practical attack it may be worthless: it's too easy to knock a lighter out of position or out of your hand, and while you're fooling with the lighter and spray can of something, it's hard to protect your groin from being kicked. It's not like it can produce flames that can reach across a room. There was also the (annoying but harmless) attack that sometimes worked through a locked door: fill an envelope (typically 8" x 11", open on the short end) full of shaving cream, insert open end under door of dorm room, get your copy of the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics (a very thick, heavy book) and drop it on the envelope. Often, you'd hit the ceiling of the far side of the room. |
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On 01/25/2014 07:34 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote: Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. -- Cheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand. |
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On 01/25/2014 11:23 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/25/2014 2:09 PM, Michael Black wrote: I've heard that hair spray makes a decent defensive weapon too. Nice flame thrower if you have a cigarette lighter, unless that's just a movie thing. The concept makes sense. A flammable spray, so it moves away from the can and can be lit on fire. I know someone talked about it back in high school, but I can't remember if he merely saw it in a movie, or had tried it himself. Some years ago, a teenager in Aus had seen that on a movie, perhaps James Bond movie. He found an Au size critter in the closet of his house, and decided to try the Bond technique. I don't remember if the critter died in the process, but the house got burned to the ground. "Hey kids, don't try this at home" is frequently good advice. -- Cheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:26:05 -0800, The Real Bev
wrote: On 01/25/2014 07:34 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote: Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. I prefer a .380. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, The Real Bev wrote:
On 01/25/2014 07:34 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote: Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Michael |
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On 01/26/2014 10:38 AM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, The Real Bev wrote: On 01/25/2014 07:34 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote: Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. I don't know about that. Look at usenet arguments. I'd like to think that I could do whatever was necessary in time of need, but I've been lucky so far. If attacked by a thug, I suspect it's way too time-consuming to find exactly the right blade in your Leatherman to use for self-defense. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. My daughter's mini-doxy does stuff like that -- when startled, nip SOMETHING! I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Someone in a bicycle newsgroup suggested that if you are chased by a dog, turn and yell GET OFF THE COUCH! which will confuse him long enough for you to escape. Might not be a bad idea to carry a few spare tennis balls along when you ride too... -- Cheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand. |
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On 1/26/2014 1:38 PM, Michael Black wrote:
You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Michael There was an email that went around, about using wasp spray as self defense. I think that gullible people will put confidence in false information, and find them selves under protected. I'd hate to speak at the funeral of someone who could have had effective defense, but chose to rely on wasp spray. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:47:57 -0800, The Real Bev
wrote: On 01/26/2014 10:38 AM, Michael Black wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014, The Real Bev wrote: On 01/25/2014 07:34 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/25/2014 2:36 AM, The Real Bev wrote: Where there are idiotic laws making self-defense difficult, I recommend a can of wasp and hornet spray. Reaches 10' or so, unlike mace/pepper spray, it doesn't wear off, and if the attacker fires a gun, it'll ignite and become a flame thrower. I like that. And if you don't have to fend off an attacker you can use it against wasp nests. You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. I don't know about that. Look at usenet arguments. I'd like to think that I could do whatever was necessary in time of need, but I've been lucky so far. If attacked by a thug, I suspect it's way too time-consuming to find exactly the right blade in your Leatherman to use for self-defense. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. My daughter's mini-doxy does stuff like that -- when startled, nip SOMETHING! I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Someone in a bicycle newsgroup suggested that if you are chased by a dog, turn and yell GET OFF THE COUCH! which will confuse him long enough for you to escape. Might not be a bad idea to carry a few spare tennis balls along when you ride too... When I was a kid, I always got off my bike and faced the dog and then backed off his territory. Dogs will usually attack something fleeing but will rarely attack you head-on, as long as you're non-threatening. Of course attack dogs are trained differently so there is no escape. A gun works here, too. The second half of the magazine belongs to the owner. |
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On 1/26/2014 11:20 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 1/26/2014 1:38 PM, Michael Black wrote: You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Michael There was an email that went around, about using wasp spray as self defense. I think that gullible people will put confidence in false information, and find them selves under protected. I'd hate to speak at the funeral of someone who could have had effective defense, but chose to rely on wasp spray. Carb cleaner works best on wasps. Has no effect on bumble bees because of their furry coats. Bet it would work for self defense, also. Paul |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:16:26 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:31:36 -0500, wrote: I prefer a .380. Oh please. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet. Might **** him off :-\ A) A gun too big to conceal is to big to be of use when it's needed. B) That's why automatics were invented. C) I'll **** him off six times. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:05:41 -0800, Paul Drahn
wrote: On 1/26/2014 11:20 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 1/26/2014 1:38 PM, Michael Black wrote: You should check Snopes, and a couple other web sites. Wasp spray isn't suited for self defense. You use what you have. A rolled-up magazine is better than nothing. Isn't that what they teach in self-defense courses? The real thing about those courses is they aren't about "what to use" but actually doing. I've never gone out of the house without some sort of knife, since I was at least 15. But it would never occur to me to use it as a weapon. Even if it did, I don't think I could follow through. We do get squeamish. So things like a rolled up newspaper is more in the realm of what some can use, and then run. I think I got it from reading about those self-defense courses, but one time when a bicyclist went through a red light when I was crossing, and worse, a bus was stopped at that corner so the cyclist didn't know if any pedestrians were crossing, he ran into my arm, which caused him to attack me like I was the problem. I remember seeing sunglasses in his pocket, and taking them and throwing them. I seem to recall he want after the sunglasses. Wouldn't work when someone was planning to do you damage, but it has potential for distracting some random attack. Michael There was an email that went around, about using wasp spray as self defense. I think that gullible people will put confidence in false information, and find them selves under protected. I'd hate to speak at the funeral of someone who could have had effective defense, but chose to rely on wasp spray. Carb cleaner works best on wasps. Has no effect on bumble bees because of their furry coats. Bet it would work for self defense, also. Cheap hairspray works very well. It sticks their wings together (they touch on the backstroke) and they drop like a rock. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:37:41 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:16:26 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:31:36 -0500, wrote: I prefer a .380. Oh please. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet. Might **** him off :-\ A) A gun too big to conceal is to big to be of use when it's needed. B) That's why automatics were invented. C) I'll **** him off six times. A .380 on a pocket IS better than a .380 in the truck. I'm not interested in getting close enough to stick the barrel in his mouth. I like something that barks over here and bites over yonder. |
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On 1/26/2014 6:45 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:37:41 -0500, wrote: A .380 on a pocket IS better than a .380 in the truck. I'm not interested in getting close enough to stick the barrel in his mouth. I like something that barks over here and bites over yonder. A Python sounds to be in order. Though, PPK's are nice little units. Just ask .007. |
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On 1/26/2014 7:45 PM, Oren wrote:
A .380 on a pocket IS better than a .380 in the truck. I'm not interested in getting close enough to stick the barrel in his mouth. I like something that barks over here and bites over yonder. Did you mean a 380 in pocket versus a .45 in the truck? -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:45:35 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:37:41 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:16:26 -0800, Oren wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 13:31:36 -0500, wrote: I prefer a .380. Oh please. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet. Might **** him off :-\ A) A gun too big to conceal is to big to be of use when it's needed. B) That's why automatics were invented. C) I'll **** him off six times. A .380 on a pocket IS better than a .380 in the truck. I'm not interested in getting close enough to stick the barrel in his mouth. Right, but a .380 in the pocket is better than a .45 in the truck, unless you're in the truck. I like something that barks over here and bites over yonder. I like *something*. I can't carry my .357 in my pocket and the .380 is pretty much the same as a 9mm (it is 9mm), which doesn't fit in my pocket, either. (I don't own a .45 yet, but soon - gotta find the right one) |
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:07:12 -0600, "Steve F." wrote:
On 1/26/2014 6:45 PM, Oren wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:37:41 -0500, wrote: A .380 on a pocket IS better than a .380 in the truck. I'm not interested in getting close enough to stick the barrel in his mouth. I like something that barks over here and bites over yonder. A Python sounds to be in order. Though, PPK's are nice little units. Just ask .007. That's (PPK) exactly what I have. It fits in the pocket real good. |
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