Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and porch
both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of the
trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches off
the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground. This
porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.

If it was just a matter of raising the porch up six feet, some jacks and
railroad tie cribbing would work. However, there is a catch. The side
of the trailer where the porch needs to go, is another hill and a rather
steep one. The side of the trailer where the porch must go, is right on
the edge of that steep hill. Thus, the porch which now sits at the
bottom of that steep hill, needs to first be raised up the hill, which
is about 8 to 9 feet up. Then raised the six feet to be level with the
door. In other words, when standing at the base of the steep hill, the
door on the trailer is about 15 feet up.

I should note that the trailer was put on this hillside in order to
build a large deck over the hill. However, this porch was supposed to
also be put there and a deck built out from the porch. This porch is
supposed to be placed by the trailer door, and those short 4x4 posts
under it be replaced by long 6x6 posts, which will be 8 foot next to the
trailer and 12 foot on the hillside (including portion dug into the
ground).

Someone suggested hiring a crane operator, which I'm sure would work,
but the cost is prohibitive. However, available are a farm tractor with
a loader, and a skid loader, plus chain hoist and come-alongs. So far,
I can only think of trying to slide the porch on it's side up some
boards laid against the hillside, using the chain hoist and comealongs,
but then to tip it upright onto the posts (placed in the ground after
the porch is at the top of the hill), seems near impossible. This
wooden porch is fairly heavy, which adds to the problem.

I've moved a lot of buildings, but this has me puzzled.

Any ideas????????

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

Gunn,

So why don't you disassemble this porch and use it's parts to build the
needed porch?

Dave M.

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On 11/7/2013 5:56 AM, wrote:
I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and porch
both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of the
trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches off
the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground. This
porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.

If it was just a matter of raising the porch up six feet, some jacks and
railroad tie cribbing would work. However, there is a catch. The side
of the trailer where the porch needs to go, is another hill and a rather
steep one. The side of the trailer where the porch must go, is right on
the edge of that steep hill. Thus, the porch which now sits at the
bottom of that steep hill, needs to first be raised up the hill, which
is about 8 to 9 feet up. Then raised the six feet to be level with the
door. In other words, when standing at the base of the steep hill, the
door on the trailer is about 15 feet up.

I should note that the trailer was put on this hillside in order to
build a large deck over the hill. However, this porch was supposed to
also be put there and a deck built out from the porch. This porch is
supposed to be placed by the trailer door, and those short 4x4 posts
under it be replaced by long 6x6 posts, which will be 8 foot next to the
trailer and 12 foot on the hillside (including portion dug into the
ground).

Someone suggested hiring a crane operator, which I'm sure would work,
but the cost is prohibitive. However, available are a farm tractor with
a loader, and a skid loader, plus chain hoist and come-alongs. So far,
I can only think of trying to slide the porch on it's side up some
boards laid against the hillside, using the chain hoist and comealongs,
but then to tip it upright onto the posts (placed in the ground after
the porch is at the top of the hill), seems near impossible. This
wooden porch is fairly heavy, which adds to the problem.

I've moved a lot of buildings, but this has me puzzled.

Any ideas????????

At the moment, I don't have the mental picture of what
you're doing. But, the obvious question. Can you break
the porch apart, and rebuild it "up there"? Not really
practical for shingle roof, but who knows. another
line of thought.

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Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On 11/7/2013 8:35 AM, David L. Martel wrote:
Gunn,

So why don't you disassemble this porch and use it's parts to build the
needed porch?

Dave M.


Beat me to it. Fastest Usenet in the west.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch came with
the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only connected to
the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4
legs).
The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and
porch both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of
the trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches
off the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground.
This porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.
If it was just a matter of raising the porch up six feet, some jacks
and railroad tie cribbing would work. However, there is a catch. The
side of the trailer where the porch needs to go, is another hill and a
rather steep one. The side of the trailer where the porch must go, is
right on the edge of that steep hill. Thus, the porch which now sits at
the bottom of that steep hill, needs to first be raised up the hill,
which is about 8 to 9 feet up. Then raised the six feet to be level
with the door. In other words, when standing at the base of the steep
hill, the door on the trailer is about 15 feet up.

As other posters have mentioned, I would disassemble the old porch and
use the materials to build a new porch. You're going to need new
footings, new longer posts, diagonal bracing, etc. In other words, you'll
need a whole new structure for the steep slope than you needed for a flat
area.

By the time you fussed around with all the modifications to make the old
porch work on the slope, you could have simply built a new one. If it
were me, I would make the posts one piece from the footing up to the
roof.

I've moved a lot of buildings, but this has me puzzled.

I used a Bobcat to move our old 8x12 shed:

http://www.watsondiy.com/2005shed.htm

Of course, this was all level ground. Your slope sounds too steep to be
driving a bobcat up, or even sideways across for that matter. The only
other option I can think of would be to cut a mostly level road into the
slope that you could pull the structure along. But again, that's more
work than just building a new porch.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

How about an insurance fire? Seriously, just take it apart the best you can and then rebuild. Although, even after rebuilding, it sounds like a dangerous situation for using the porch with the height above the ground level.

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:56:10 -0600, wrote:

I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

I only read the description once, and I'm not sure I'm picturing it,
but

How about moving the trailer out of the way for a while, putting the
porch at the top of the hill, and lowering it into place? This might
be safer for the trailer too, out of the way so the porch can't fall
on it.

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:54:29 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:56:10 -0600, wrote:



I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let

me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch

came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only

connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the

roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).



I only read the description once, and I'm not sure I'm picturing it,

but



How about moving the trailer out of the way for a while, putting the

porch at the top of the hill, and lowering it into place? This might

be safer for the trailer too, out of the way so the porch can't fall

on it.

Think I'll throw my vote in for the tear down rebuild group.

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:56:10 -0600, wrote:

I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and porch
both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of the
trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches off
the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground. This
porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.

If it was just a matter of raising the porch up six feet, some jacks and
railroad tie cribbing would work. However, there is a catch. The side
of the trailer where the porch needs to go, is another hill and a rather
steep one. The side of the trailer where the porch must go, is right on
the edge of that steep hill. Thus, the porch which now sits at the
bottom of that steep hill, needs to first be raised up the hill, which
is about 8 to 9 feet up. Then raised the six feet to be level with the
door. In other words, when standing at the base of the steep hill, the
door on the trailer is about 15 feet up.

I should note that the trailer was put on this hillside in order to
build a large deck over the hill. However, this porch was supposed to
also be put there and a deck built out from the porch. This porch is
supposed to be placed by the trailer door, and those short 4x4 posts
under it be replaced by long 6x6 posts, which will be 8 foot next to the
trailer and 12 foot on the hillside (including portion dug into the
ground).

Someone suggested hiring a crane operator, which I'm sure would work,
but the cost is prohibitive. However, available are a farm tractor with
a loader, and a skid loader, plus chain hoist and come-alongs. So far,
I can only think of trying to slide the porch on it's side up some
boards laid against the hillside, using the chain hoist and comealongs,
but then to tip it upright onto the posts (placed in the ground after
the porch is at the top of the hill), seems near impossible. This
wooden porch is fairly heavy, which adds to the problem.

I've moved a lot of buildings, but this has me puzzled.

Any ideas????????
Build the new structure that will support the new deck AND porch,
then slide the porch out onto the structure and fasten in place.
Attaching the porch to the trailer, then the deck to the porch, is a
guaranteed introduction to the game of "pick-up-stix".

The siting of the trailer would not be anything I would want to live
with, regardless. All 4 corners within reach of SOLID ground or a
substantial foundation would be the only way I would consider living
in a trailer home. But I have seen a lot of trailers that looked to be
ready to act as a toboggan in the "hollers" down south - and in
Appalachia.

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

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How about an insurance fire? Seriously, just take it apart the best you can
and then rebuild. Although, even after rebuilding, it sounds like a
dangerous situation for using the porch with the height above the ground
level.

Why? I built our 13 x 42 deck 12 feet above ground level as we live on a
hillside. WW

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

On 11/7/13 4:56 AM, wrote:
I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and porch
both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of the
trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches off
the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground. This
porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.

A bunch snipped.

Would it be practical to set some old telephone/power line poles
temporarily? Attach pulleys to the top of the poles and use rope or
cable to lift the porch? Remember the old rope fence stretchers?

Need to lift a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet.
 

Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/7/13 4:56 AM, wrote:
I'm trying to think of a way to raise a 12x8 foot porch up 15 feet. Let
me explain: The trailer house was moved to a new location. The porch
came with the trailer house. The porch was free standing, only
connected to the trailer by a few screws and some flashing to join the
roofs. (This is a porch with walls and a roof, which has six 4x4 legs).

The former location of the trailer house was flat, the trailer and porch
both sat about 30 inches off the ground. The new location of the
trailer house is on a hill. The front of the trailer is 14 inches off
the ground, the rear of the trailer is seven feet off the ground. This
porch goes where the trailer is about 6 feet off the ground.

A bunch snipped.

Would it be practical to set some old telephone/power line poles
temporarily? Attach pulleys to the top of the poles and use rope or
cable to lift the porch? Remember the old rope fence stretchers?

No chance of renting a crane, even sky crane? They charge by the hour.